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ManOfArms
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hub5326 said:
I always wonders what others who studies this form of martial arts thought about it. In the 80's it was very popular, back then there were a few fake studios claiming to teach this style, so I never really met anyone who actually studied the real thing.
There were also a lot of fakes who claimed to study with Hatsumi in japan, or when he was in the states training with one of his american student (name excapes me) who actually was the first american grand master..
Steven Hayes was the supposed first American but there was much controversy surrounding the subject.
The little I have studied the art it has many useful applications and a true fighting art. My favorite thing about the art though is the movement and use of balance. The art in general though seems incorporate many other styles and movements.
hub5326
The little I have studied the art it has many useful applications and a true fighting art. My favorite thing about the art though is the movement and use of balance. The art in general though seems incorporate many other styles and movements.
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DANABOLIC55
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I had three students of ninjitsu come into my Jeet Kune dO class. They had decent ground skills but nothing to brag about. The rest of their stuff was pretty bad. My youngest student out boxed and out clinched their oldest dude to the point where i had to stop it
they all stayed around but one of them until I closed my school>
they all stayed around but one of them until I closed my school>
Agreed about UFC 2...
I think in general UFC, Pride, ect have proven that any one discipline is useless. In the beginning ground skills proved to be the best tactic when only a few understood them but now that everyone seems to posess decent ground skills, things have gone back to stand up or ground and pound. My goal in training has always been to study everything I can to find the most effective tools for me.
hub5326
I think in general UFC, Pride, ect have proven that any one discipline is useless. In the beginning ground skills proved to be the best tactic when only a few understood them but now that everyone seems to posess decent ground skills, things have gone back to stand up or ground and pound. My goal in training has always been to study everything I can to find the most effective tools for me.
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Mr.HeavyDuty
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ufc 2 was a joke fellas. steve jennum even talked about how he had been studying bjj some to familiarize himself with the ground game . i'm not taking away from what he did, but the ufc was in its infancy at the time so there was not much skill involved compared to today's standards. with the exception of royce and shamrock the first three ufc's were not all that in terms of real competition. however ufc 4 and beyond is a different story. i actually used to have a guy that trained bjj with me who trained in ninjiutsu, he admitted it was pretty damn weak, but he did enjoy working with the weapons aspect of it, which seemed to be the focus of the art. by no means am i meaning disrespect any practitioners of the art, there just is not much substance involved in the art, and it has no usefulness in mma competition either.
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UFC 2 yep! I've seen it. That nijitsu guy got KILLED by a Muay Thai guy. Elbow strikes to the head KNocked him out, the fight lasted less than 2 minutes I think.
AlwaysOn said:
Not exactly. If you know about feudalism (Lords, knights, peasants) the samurai were the equivalent of European knights. Because of the cost to arm and armor them, they were quite literally the equivalent of today's army tanks. A samurai could lose his master and become a 'ronin' but it would be almost impossible for him to fall so far down the social ladder that he would become a ninja.
That's because ninjas were an entirely different social caste, almost like the Indian "untouchables." Many of them were literally outhouse cleaners. Because they had no social standing, they could go places no one else would go and do things that were literally unthinkable to the rest of society. (Example: Hide in an outhouse, right down in the raw waste, and stab your victim from beneath while he's doing his business.)
A ninja who finds himself fighting anyone has flunked ninja school. Ninjutsu is about sneaking into a secure location and assassinating an unprepared victim. Escape and evasion may be involved, but are secondary to completing the mission.
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