Must Take Supplements While "On"

[bblazer]

Nice save. FYI John Berardi writes for the same people I wrote for 10 years ago. They're a joke. Yet, you find his words more relevant -- because it's not on a message board? Didn't someone say something about seeking the truth?

Conclusion: Glutamine doesn't work. I'm trying to save you money. Be grateful.

No save. Its called being magnanimous.

I also took the time to read the several other posts above Bernardi's. You should too.

B-

 

[kidd73]

Great thread fellas. While bantering back & forth over glutamine's effects,or lack thereof, many of us learned a lot about it. I for one will no longer be purchasing glutamine as it appears to have little to no effect on muscle development or recovery. Besides, who fucking needs glutamine when you have test & primo??

 

[Nelson Montana]

Great thread fellas. While bantering back & forth over glutamine's effects,or lack thereof, many of us learned a lot about it. I for one will no longer be purchasing glutamine as it appears to have little to no effect on muscle development or recovery. Besides, who fucking needs glutamine when you have test & primo??

Which leads us back to the original point. What supplements help on cycle? For the most part, the answer to that is, whatever supplement works. Creatine isn't necessary because it increases water weight. VIGOR is my product and it isn;t necessary because steroids increase RBC already. It's better to be used AFTER the cycle. But I'd say a multi and UNLEASHED are a must to make the most of it.

 

[x_muscle]

Which leads us back to the original point. What supplements help on cycle? For the most part, the answer to that is, whatever supplement works. Creatine isn't necessary because it increases water weight. VIGOR is my product and it isn;t necessary because steroids increase RBC already. It's better to be used AFTER the cycle. But I'd say a multi and UNLEASHED are a must to make the most of it.

Hum so your product so called UNLEASHED is a must? Lowering shbg IS A BAD IDEA ON CYCLE............ and i can prove my words son

 

[bblazer]

You must have come from BB.com, where children play "tag, you're it" and end it "good day sir" to pretend they're mature. We don;t roll like that. Present your case and/or shut up. Stop asking me or others to do your homework for you.

You obviously do not understand how logic works. You can not prove a negative. In other words, you can't prove there wasn't an elephant in my living room last night.

Show me the proof that glutamine increases muscle growth. It'd be easy. Rats fed supplemental glutamine would grow more. We'd all know it. But it doesn't happen. Instead, all you'll find is speculation from supplement companies.

Show me one post where I said glutamine helped muscle growth.

I'll save you the time. I didn't.

Proving that glutamine does not make it intact through the gut is not proving a negative. It either does or it doesn't. I posted examples where testing showed that it did. You have not held up your end. I did my homework. You apparently have not or can not.

There is no logic more simple than fact or fiction.

I have shown my case with clear examples that glutamine levels do in fact increase after oral administration. My argument went no farther than that. I have made my case, you you tell me to put up or shut up. I went back and read this thread and found nothing from you other than global statements.

Look, I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The vast majority of your advice is sound. You are even more than likely right about the affect of glutamine on the body (again a point I never argued), you were just wrong on how you got there.

We can keep up this fencing forever, but I will just end up getting carpal tunnel syndrome from all this typing and falsely blame it on a side effect of my GH supplementation.

If you feel you need the last word in all this, by all means take it. As long as it's not some ad hominem attack its all yours.

Peace,

B-

 

[dark-knight]

Great thread fellas. While bantering back & forth over glutamine's effects,or lack thereof, many of us learned a lot about it. I for one will no longer be purchasing glutamine as it appears to have little to no effect on muscle development or recovery. Besides, who fucking needs glutamine when you have test & primo??

also the same reason i slow down to look at car accidents

 

[DaveTSI]

i think most OTC supps are useless, if i take anything at all its..
protein
multi-v
fish oil

 

[Nelson Montana]

Show me one post where I said glutamine helped muscle growth.

I'll save you the time. I didn't.

Proving that glutamine does not make it intact through the gut is not proving a negative. It either does or it doesn't. I posted examples where testing showed that it did. You have not held up your end. I did my homework. You apparently have not or can not.

There is no logic more simple than fact or fiction.

I have shown my case with clear examples that glutamine levels do in fact increase after oral administration. My argument went no farther than that. I have made my case, you you tell me to put up or shut up. I went back and read this thread and found nothing from you other than global statements.

Look, I've said it before, and I'll say it again. The vast majority of your advice is sound. You are even more than likely right about the affect of glutamine on the body (again a point I never argued), you were just wrong on how you got there.

We can keep up this fencing forever, but I will just end up getting carpal tunnel syndrome from all this typing and falsely blame it on a side effect of my GH supplementation.

If you feel you need the last word in all this, by all means take it. As long as it's not some ad hominem attack its all yours.

Peace,

B-

Okay, so it's a matter of splitting hairs here. Fair enough. We're cool. Bottom line: glutamine is not of great importance to bodybuilders.

Dave TSI : Most supps are worthless but many are a tremendous advantage to recovery, strength, libido, focus, hormonal balance, and general health -- if that matters. .

 

[perryscoon]

Protein, multivitamin, and creatine.

 

[needtogetaas]

Hum so your product so called UNLEASHED is a must? Lowering shbg IS A BAD IDEA ON CYCLE............ and i can prove my words son

I would like to hear this. Just because I am interested in hearing it.