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[Nelson Montana]

I believe nelson is the same guy that claims that we dont even know how aspirin works.......

Huh? You got a point bro?

 

[mighty-musculus]

Huh? You got a point bro?

My point is that in the short time I have been on this board I have seen completely off the wall stuff coming from you. The aspirin thing stuck in my head from a post a read the other day, and I felt it was funny that you are so out of touch with glutamine and how the body uses it as well as our apparent lack of knowledge with one of the most widely used substances of today.

 

[housemusik83]

~ wtf ?

glutamine is not worthless.

where do you come up with this shit, nelson???

don't you sell a glutamine based product???

there are dozens of research articles that say otherwise.

~

+1

 

[macemj]

lol @ glutamine being worthless...sometimes Nelson surprises me with those random comments

Here's what I take:

Whey
BCAAs
Glutamine
Arginine
Milk Thisle
Garlic
Glucosamine Sulfate
Shark Cartilage
Green Tea
Goja Berry
OMEGAs
Creatine
Multi Vitamin
Ginseng

That is a very nice variety! I am going to definetly add some Milk Thistle. Green tea is the best - makes me feel "cleased." What is Goja Berry? I take alcai berry (Monavie)!!
So I will be taking:

Milk Thistle
Multi
Monavie
Green Tea (2X daily)
Liquid Amino Acids (twin labs)
Glutamine
Fish oil
Cranberry Juice 24 oz/day

 

[Nelson Montana]

My point is that in the short time I have been on this board I have seen completely off the wall stuff coming from you. The aspirin thing stuck in my head from a post a read the other day, and I felt it was funny that you are so out of touch with glutamine and how the body uses it as well as our apparent lack of knowledge with one of the most widely used substances of today.

I'm sorry...you seem to have mistaken me for some schmuck who just likes to post messages. You've been a short time. Listen and learn. Dude, I've been in the business over 30 years. I've had over 300 pieces published in my lifetime. I've dealt with everyone in the industry. I've competed in National shows. I've been quoted in books, TV, radio and magazines. Not braggin' just sayin' Just so you know.

Jsut because something is widely used doesn;t mean it's effective. Placebo is strong. There is no way you can say you recovery faster since recovery is not guageable.

I've worked for supplement companies. I know what works and what doesn't. I could very easily sell glutamine. But I don't. Because it doesn't work. I only make formulations that work.

And isn;t it funny? No one has presented any evidence of glutamine working other than they say so, it's widely used or they don;t want to believe they've wasted their money.

Glutamine pepdies have shown a better absorbtion rate. Not great, but better. Non peptide glutamine goes through you as an inert substance.

I have nothing to gain by dismissing glutamine. Knock yourself out. Buy thousands of dollars of the stuff. Your loss. Just trying to help.

 

[macemj]

multi-v, creatine, glutamine, protein shakes. on and off cycle.

i think you are going to have a problem with liquidex. AG = jerk off scamming dick heads.

Why do you think AG guys suck? I have used the liquidex for 3 cycles and notice less water but an increase in anger and lethargic feeling (if taken too much). Also, if i notice to be breaking out from estrogen rebound than i take .25 eod for a week and it clears it up (dried out)..weird.

My thoughts on Liquidex.

 

[mighty-musculus]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/bodybuilding-supplements/unleashed-worth-618928.html

I truly believe you have a wealth of knowledge but you're not perfect and neither is the advice you give SOMETIMES.

 

[bblazer]

Nelson,

You stated that glutamine does not survive the digestive tract. I said you are wrong (which you are). Prove to me that it doesn't. Show me your proof.

I gave you an example of mine (the oral glutamine given to alcoholics). Now put up or shut up.

I don't care who endorses you, what supp companies you have worked for and for how long, or how many articles you have written. That has nothing to do with this conversation. It is just subterfuge and distraction you are throwing around because you can not back up your claim that glutamine dies not survive the digestive tract.

B-

 

[bblazer]

There is no way you can say you recovery faster since recovery is not guageable.

Are you now saying that muscle cell recovery is not quantifiable?

Please correct me if I am wrong. I really hope that I am.

B-

 

[kidd73]

Here's an idea to calm the waters in this thread.
If you take Glutamine & like it, continue to use it.
If you don't like Glutamine or don't think it works, don't take it.
Or we can just continue this great debate.