Must Take Supplements While "On"

[needtogetaas]

Which leads us back to the original point. What supplements help on cycle? For the most part, the answer to that is, whatever supplement works. Creatine isn't necessary because it increases water weight. VIGOR is my product and it isn;t necessary because steroids increase RBC already. It's better to be used AFTER the cycle. But I'd say a multi and UNLEASHED are a must to make the most of it.

Although creatine does have testosterone-like effects and causes some water weight,it doesn't act as a steroid hormone.Instead,it's a mediator of some of the androgens' anabolic effects.In fact,steroid users get far more out of their cycles if they take in massive amounts of creatine along with the drugs.Androgens are among the hormones that can force the entry of creatine into muscle cells.While there's a clear relationship between muscle strength gains and increases in muscle creatine stores.

Training increases the muscles sensitivity to the anabolic actions of creatine.T he anabolic effects of creatine are DIRECT,and not mediated by waterretention.In fact,in the 1970s American and Russian studies pointed out a DIRECT anabolic effect of creatine on muscle cells.)Testosterone increases the muscles'sensitivity to the anabolic properties of creatine in addition to enhancing the creatine buildup in muscle fibers.It's also obvious that part of the strength gains people experience while on steroids are mediated by an increase in muscle creatine stores.An interesting discovery A/S users have made is that they should dramatically increase their creatine intake during a cycle to boost the potency of the steroids.Thanks to creatine,people can build more muscle mass with fewer drugs.


There are probably good reasons for the increased creatine requirement when androgen levels are high.As mentioned above,steroids increase the muscle uptake of creatine,and if the muscles are ready to accept more creatine,why not give it to them?I also think that even though steroids enhance creatine synthesis,they may increase creatine degradation as well-so more creatine is used up every day.That could be due to an increase in muscle creatine turnover and also the fact that an elevated muscle protein synthesis rate will likely consume creatine at a faster rate.Other reasons for a higher creatine requirement may be indirect.Because the muscles of drug users are stronger and receive more training,they may waste greater amounts of creatine during training.Once inside the muscle,creatine provides not only an anabolic effect,but also a rapidly mobilized source of fuel.Muscle protein synthesis is a process that wastes great amounts of energy.Anabolism is an ATP-dependent process,which means that it's essential for protein synthesis.If the cellular level of ATP is reduced even a little,IT STOPS ANABOLISM.So even if you can increase the testosterone content of your muscles,nothing will happen if your ATP level is low.Creatine supports anabolism by providing energy to the muscle...

 

[needtogetaas]

Thank you. Someone presenting real evidence. And look! It concurs what I've been saying. How about that.

So many issues to address -- where do I start?

As for mighty-musculus 's issue with aspirin, I'm not sure what your problem is. Aspitin was used for 100 years before they knew how it worked. Sure, now they can track that it effect prosaglandins which therefore sets off this chemical reaction and blah, blah, blah, but aspirin was not designed to do that. It was just something that DID it! That was my point. Avenacosides work, but it's not like there are a bunch of research teams trying to discover how it lowers SHBG. No money in that.

And not for nothin' but terms like; "You THINK you know what you're talking about!" And "You're full of shit!" And "You're wacko" ... are all insults. They offer no contrary debate. They're just petulant reactions. Try to exhibit more class in future posts, please.

Yes, And I am not going to keep repeating myself ether.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I think if everyone would stick to presenting their arguments with respect instead of directing attacks on each other when you have nothing to say, we can all have a much better argument / conversation and learn from each other.

I don't feel the need to stress that we need to keep this polite and professional.