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Elementality

Elementality

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540 calories, 260 carbs, 29 grams of fat, 25 grams of protein.

So, they got one of these Mc Donald's right next to my gym. 3.75 for two of these big macs.

I've been getting the 2 for a few days now everytime after i lift and eat it for a PWO meal.

I KNOW its bad. I KNOW you dont want fats like this after working out.

I need someone to verbally kick my ass and tell me to stop doing this. While you're at at explain to me why I shouldn't drink beer and eat all around shitty.

I get good calories in, 4 - 5k with high protein...But I'll admit my diet has gotten bad lately.

If anyone is bored, verbally kick my ass please.

THANKS
 
Elementality said:
540 calories, 260 carbs, 29 grams of fat, 25 grams of protein.

So, they got one of these Mc Donald's right next to my gym. 3.75 for two of these big macs.

I've been getting the 2 for a few days now everytime after i lift and eat it for a PWO meal.

I KNOW its bad. I KNOW you dont want fats like this after working out.

I need someone to verbally kick my ass and tell me to stop doing this. While you're at at explain to me why I shouldn't drink beer and eat all around shitty.

I get good calories in, 4 - 5k with high protein...But I'll admit my diet has gotten bad lately.

If anyone is bored, verbally kick my ass please.

THANKS
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Stop eating McDonalds or you are banned.;)


lolololol


Just gotta get it sorted out bro. If you have to prepare a meal and bring it with you, then do that. Pretty much anything is better than McDonalds.
 
so??/ fatty what's up??

don't be hating, with long tern consumption of that much fat, and the inevitable build up from plaque due to triglycerides in your blood stream, the ED condition you experience won't be from AAS use, but from that..

So, keep eating like that so that I'll look that much better than you this summer.. after all, your girlfriend won't say

"Dang that' guy's like 48 and looks way better than you, I wonder if he's taken"
 
Elementality said:
540 calories, 260 carbs, 29 grams of fat, 25 grams of protein.

So, they got one of these Mc Donald's right next to my gym. 3.75 for two of these big macs.

I've been getting the 2 for a few days now everytime after i lift and eat it for a PWO meal.

I KNOW its bad. I KNOW you dont want fats like this after working out.

I need someone to verbally kick my ass and tell me to stop doing this. While you're at at explain to me why I shouldn't drink beer and eat all around shitty.

I get good calories in, 4 - 5k with high protein...But I'll admit my diet has gotten bad lately.

If anyone is bored, verbally kick my ass please.

THANKS
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You need more than a verbal ass kicking,,,,,Why do you want to clog your arteries up with fatty cholesterol. Why even work out?


Ladies don't like fat guys! unless it's a fat lady!
Your Choice ,Your body, Don't wait for a mild heart attack to snap you back to reality!

RADAR
 
RADAR said:
You need more than a verbal ass kicking,,,,,Why do you want to clog your arteries up with fatty cholesterol. Why even work out?


Ladies don't like fat guys! unless it's a fat lady!
Your Choice ,Your body, Don't wait for a mild heart attack to snap you back to reality!

RADAR
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thats not always true. my girl loves my 20% bf. she loves the muscles to but she says the gut is a plus. she dreads contest look.
 
Or bro you could go get double quarter pounder with cheese, medium fries and strawberry milk shake. I dont know about size portions in the US but in the Uk that all adds up to:
1510 calories
58 grams protein
150grams carbs
75grams fat

:D:D:D:D:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
 
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cant even begin to go into how this meal ruins you from the inside out.

dont think of the caloric part, those are just numbers. think of the cholesterol and grease you are ingesting. its so bad for you.

i would venture to say this pwo meal actually detracted from all of your efforts in the gym.

there are studies coming out now that say exercise has very little to do with body composition change and way more to do with caloric intake. i have read a few but like all studies take them with a grain of salt. if you are serious about training, watch what you eat. that brings results.
 
i make the mac sauce once in a while to throw on my burgers. it is some good shit.
 
timtim said:
cant even begin to go into how this meal ruins you from the inside out.

dont think of the caloric part, those are just numbers. think of the cholesterol and grease you are ingesting. its so bad for you.

i would venture to say this pwo meal actually detracted from all of your efforts in the gym.

there are studies coming out now that say exercise has very little to do with body composition change and way more to do with caloric intake. i have read a few but like all studies take them with a grain of salt. if you are serious about training, watch what you eat. that brings results.
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Fuck it bro Im 14, alot of people have reccomended to me getting mcdonalds post workout :evil:
 
Personally, I wouldn't recommend, but its not as bad as people are making out.

The only study comparing whole milk and skim milk on isocaloric formulations PWO (which means the whole milk had less protein) convincingly said. See Is It Necessary to “Spike� Insulin Post-workout? | Kelly Frankson DOT COM (I can't actual journal, but have seen it before):

"Elliot and colleagues compared the effect of fat-free milk, whole milk, and a higher dose of fat-free milk (to match the calories of the whole milk) taken 60 minutes post-resistance exercise.24 Whole milk was superior for increasing net protein balance. Interestingly, the calorie-matched dose of fat free milk containing 14.5g protein, versus 8.0g in the whole milk (an 81% advantage), but still got beaten. The investigators speculated over the possible mechanisms behind the outcome (insulin response, blood flow, subject response differences, fat content improving nitrogen retention), but end up dismissing each one in favor of concluding that further research is necessary to see if extra fat calories ingested with an amino acid source will increase muscle protein synthesis. Lingering questions notwithstanding, post-workout milkfat was the factor that clinched the victory – at least in overnight-fasted subjects."

Edit: reference is Elliot TA, et al. Milk ingestion stimulates net muscle protein synthesis following resistance exercise. Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2006 Apr;38(4):667-74.

The reality is many prescribed PWO formulations (dex; WMS) haven't actually been supported by science.

Indeed, needto posted a study comparing honey and dex, and dex didn't win despite honey containing 50% of the "evil" fructose.


Elementality said:
540 calories, 260 carbs, 29 grams of fat, 25 grams of protein.

So, they got one of these Mc Donald's right next to my gym. 3.75 for two of these big macs.

I've been getting the 2 for a few days now everytime after i lift and eat it for a PWO meal.

I KNOW its bad. I KNOW you dont want fats like this after working out.

I need someone to verbally kick my ass and tell me to stop doing this. While you're at at explain to me why I shouldn't drink beer and eat all around shitty.

I get good calories in, 4 - 5k with high protein...But I'll admit my diet has gotten bad lately.

If anyone is bored, verbally kick my ass please.

THANKS
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you could just do what b fold the truth said he has done and make 1 lb of ground beef and mix it with some brown rice and chicken noodle soup and throw it in a thermos. thats a ton of carbs and protein right there.
 
i have to admit i hit up mcdonalds for a classic grilled chicken and a double cheeseburger often...35 grams fat 50 protein prob 75 carbs i dont eat the top of the chciken bun...better then starving
 
Rikishi said:
Those people who recommended it do not know what they are talking about. I suggest never taking diet advice from them again.
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a young skinny guy with a super high metab. who is trying to build miscle will need to eat foods similar to this they want to gain. high cal, fat, carb, prot all in one little meal. sometimes its the only way.
 
joe d said:
a young skinny guy with a super high metab. who is trying to build miscle will need to eat foods similar to this they want to gain. high cal, fat, carb, prot all in one little meal. sometimes its the only way.
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I agree with you to an extent, but not Big Macs loaded with disgusting grease and cholesterol.

I'm a hard gainer with a quick metabolism. I have to eat 1000 g carbs a day to gain weight. I don't eat big macs. If I don't eat 1000g carbs, I end up lighter the next day than I was the day before. High amounts of complex carbs, protein and hard lifting is the key to gaining weight IMO. but some things work better for other people. i think a big mac is just disgusting and theres many other foods you can eat to gain weight other than gross big macs :cool:
 
ExtraMile said:
Fuck it bro Im 14, alot of people have reccomended to me getting mcdonalds post workout :evil:
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those people are clueless fools. if you think a big mac has quality protein youre kidding yourself. go home and make the same thing with fresh ingredients.

in 2 big macs:
520 carbs from sugar and processed garbage
60 grams of fat, the bad fat your body never needs
50 grams of protein, grade d garbage

i could recommend 1000 things better that taste great and are calorie dense with calories your body needs. try and remember, at 14, your body is not putting the calories you eat into muscle growth. its going into bone, organ, brain, skin, etc growth. mac donalds does nothing for any of these.
 
joe d said:
thats not always true. my girl loves my 20% bf. she loves the muscles to but she says the gut is a plus. she dreads contest look.
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He was wanting a verbal ass kicking........I havn't ate at Mc Donalds for over 30 yrs!

I shy from fast food!


RADAR
 
timtim said:
those people are clueless fools. if you think a big mac has quality protein youre kidding yourself. go home and make the same thing with fresh ingredients.

in 2 big macs:
520 carbs from sugar and processed garbage
60 grams of fat, the bad fat your body never needs
50 grams of protein, grade d garbage

i could recommend 1000 things better that taste great and are calorie dense with calories your body needs. try and remember, at 14, your body is not putting the calories you eat into muscle growth. its going into bone, organ, brain, skin, etc growth. mac donalds does nothing for any of these.
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When did I say it was good protein? I know its not. I dont eat it often, I had mcdonalds a few weeks ago, before that the last time was xmas eve while I was out xmas shoppin for people and before that I cant even remember the last time I ate macdonalds.

I ate a whole meat feast pizza, 900 calories 105g carbs 45g protein last night for tea like 4 hours before bed. I dont put on fat easily I just dont burn it off. Iv always been like 18% bf since I was about 10 and Iv never really changed exept for loosin some BF when I started powerlifting. Maybe cuz Im only 14 but my body often just burns whatever I eat up really quickly, some days my metabolism is extrememely fast and Ill eat like 4 whole large eggs, a whey shake and a pint of milk before bed and wake up an hour later starving hungry LOL other days its not so fast... its wierd like that :rolleyes:
 
i agree with all the health aspects. i also dont eat it because i can use other foods. i was simply arguing the post that seemen to state that its not ever the right choice but the truth is the truth. if you cant get yourself to be able to eat enough good food to grow than you have to junk it up a little. if you still cant than you need to junk it up a lot. mcdonalds, pizza shops, burger king ect, ect. is it healthy? hell no. but if you need it to grow than what else are you going to do. most of the argument against fast food is coming from people like myself who are risking our health in several ways to become bigger and stronger. this is also a fact that will be argued by people that blind themselves to the truth.

we are doing things to our bodies on a daily basis making it fight harder than it was designed to.
 
I fucking loathe McDonald's. My grandfather owned a few stores and I worked in one all through high school. I can drive by one and smell the grease and I throw up in my mouth a little. With all that said....For the young gainer with a super fast metabolism a few double cheeseburgers and shakes is not gonna kill you. If it helps you to add size then go for it. I would not recommend it if you are already a fat ass though. In the long run fast food is a killer and there are better and healthier ways to get your calories in. *Cough* Needto's Protein bars *Cough* You would be better off pattying up your own hamburgers and making your own Big Mac's.
 
Ronnie Coleman has an entire pizza PWO frequently. NOw I realise a pizza is slightly better than Maccas (depending on the make).

Personally, though, there are many high cal options that taste aweseome and are healthy.

If I needed a 1000 cals PWO, I could make it by:
- 1 litre whole milk
- 50g whey
- 2 large bananas
- 10 cocoa
- 10g dex
- 5g

1130 cals, 84P,133C, 35F (or slightly less milk and more bananas)

It would at least taste good, and be insulingenic (cocoa alone is very insulingenic), high in antioxidants (cocoa, cin), high in potassium, and of course high quality protein and decent carbs
 
could be eating worse, like large fries for instance or a sugary soda with it.
slamming a big mac with out the suace or condiments and a cup of water every now and then is not gonna hurt you.
If you are gaining muscle the ratio of fat ,protien and carbs is decent when you eat just a big mac by itself.
the salt and chemicals added to the big mac for flavor are the down side as well.
You could also order just the bigmac meat on bread with 2 pints of milk for extra protien to bring it up into the 40gram range for that meal.

I mean you would be better off eating a home made burger with 87% 90% lean beef on wheat bread .
But on the go a bigmac is not the worse , just think of it was a big mac, large fries and large soda then i would say it is pretty fucked up
and a bad choice.
Some people are scared of fats , but the body needs fat for normal brain function and even fat metabolism . If not the body tries to store ever tiny bit of fat it gets when fat is restricted
 
The real question is " does everyone have the same requirments " and that is no .
No two people are gonna follow the same exact diet and see the same result.
A person has to look at his or her bodys build
if they are ectomorph, endo, meso then take calorie and training then design a program that works for them.

Literally some people can get away with eating ANYTHING.
At age 14 and being athletic a normal kid can eat and eat and still eat and stay lean and build muscle.
Now if the kid ate sodas candy and sweets he would prob end up chunky if even that some kids can burn burn and burn calories like a furnace.
Where a 35 yr old man would prob end up fat bloated and mayeb even have some health issues with blood pressure if he tried to follow a diet someone 20 years younger followed

My nephew is 15 yrs old now, He cant sit still he has to be playing a sport . baseball football basketball plus weightlifting.
I watched him devour a 2 liter of soda , a large meat lovers papa johns pizza for dinner does not even phase him
where if i tried it I would feel like shit for 2 days
 
chazk said:
The real question is " does everyone have the same requirments " and that is no .
No two people are gonna follow the same exact diet and see the same result.
A person has to look at his or her bodys build
if they are ectomorph, endo, meso then take calorie and training then design a program that works for them.

Literally some people can get away with eating ANYTHING.
At age 14 and being athletic a normal kid can eat and eat and still eat and stay lean and build muscle.
Now if the kid ate sodas candy and sweets he would prob end up chunky if even that some kids can burn burn and burn calories like a furnace.
Where a 35 yr old man would prob end up fat bloated and mayeb even have some health issues with blood pressure if he tried to follow a diet someone 20 years younger followed

My nephew is 15 yrs old now, He cant sit still he has to be playing a sport . baseball football basketball plus weightlifting.
I watched him devour a 2 liter of soda , a large meat lovers papa johns pizza for dinner does not even phase him
where if i tried it I would feel like shit for 2 days
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VERY<VERY TRUE!

My Cheat meal is a large mom & pop pizza made from scratch,it's the perfect cheat meal for Bodybuilders!


RADAR
 
It has been 11 days since I've eaten fast food period! I just started a Havoc/Phera Phlex cycle today. Ive been eating 6 meals a day with healthy snacks, all complex carbs n lean meat, n green veggies.

Thank you for cracking me marine style of my terrible Big Mac addiction.
 
Grats bro on dropping the big mac's. I've got to say though in moderation it cannot hurt you in the long run of course. I mean hell it's gonna make you feel bad shortly after eating it, that's no question. It's just gonna plain "weigh you down".

The GIGANTIC problem I have with fast food is not so much with the horrible nutritional value of the food itself. It's the fact that the food there is just nasty. No one really commented/piggy backed on Needto's comment of "they have maggots". With all of the stuff we hear about "food outbreaks" in the some of the food we consume that is suppose to be of "ok to good nutritional value".

Can you imagine after the initial processing of this food at the original plant, then it going to the distribution center of the fast food chain, and finally being what is a lame excuse of what they call "preparing or making our food" by people who generally do not want to be there.

I mean hell it's just nasty! Can you really imagine what you've put in your body?!? All the flys that have landed on your food because most people just don't care. How many times your food has probably been or could have been dropped on the ground? How long it has sat out in the nasty warmer thing that has to breed nasty bacteria that can make you sick?

I am a little overboard when it comes to this but hey if you're not worried about the "nasty/bad cals" you're putting in your body. Think about gross "other things" that comes in your food also at these fast food joints.

Just my long ass post about nothing scientific like others but what I would consider more important.
 
bnutty187 said:
Grats bro on dropping the big mac's. I've got to say though in moderation it cannot hurt you in the long run of course. I mean hell it's gonna make you feel bad shortly after eating it, that's no question. It's just gonna plain "weigh you down".

The GIGANTIC problem I have with fast food is not so much with the horrible nutritional value of the food itself. It's the fact that the food there is just nasty. No one really commented/piggy backed on Needto's comment of "they have maggots". With all of the stuff we hear about "food outbreaks" in the some of the food we consume that is suppose to be of "ok to good nutritional value".

Can you imagine after the initial processing of this food at the original plant, then it going to the distribution center of the fast food chain, and finally being what is a lame excuse of what they call "preparing or making our food" by people who generally do not want to be there.

I mean hell it's just nasty! Can you really imagine what you've put in your body?!? All the flys that have landed on your food because most people just don't care. How many times your food has probably been or could have been dropped on the ground? How long it has sat out in the nasty warmer thing that has to breed nasty bacteria that can make you sick?

I am a little overboard when it comes to this but hey if you're not worried about the "nasty/bad cals" you're putting in your body. Think about gross "other things" that comes in your food also at these fast food joints.

Just my long ass post about nothing scientific like others but what I would consider more important.
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i dissagree...id go for fast food over healthy food anyday...pizza burritos burger fries and shakes..im a fat kid at heart hahahah
 
Elementality said:
540 calories, 260 carbs, 29 grams of fat, 25 grams of protein.

So, they got one of these Mc Donald's right next to my gym. 3.75 for two of these big macs.

I've been getting the 2 for a few days now everytime after i lift and eat it for a PWO meal.

I KNOW its bad. I KNOW you dont want fats like this after working out.

I need someone to verbally kick my ass and tell me to stop doing this. While you're at at explain to me why I shouldn't drink beer and eat all around shitty.

I get good calories in, 4 - 5k with high protein...But I'll admit my diet has gotten bad lately.

If anyone is bored, verbally kick my ass please.

THANKS
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Post a picture so we can see where them Fat Macs are goin
 
It's interesting that people often say "I dropped maccas" and feel so much better.

No doubt for most people u'd look better dropping maccas. But perform better??? Michael Phelps, Rafael Nadal, and many other pro athletes have low bf (of course b/c of their energy expenditure) but also very high energy and performance levels despite of eating a lot of shit.
 
Well if most peoples jobs were to train all day everyday and rest only to supplement their training...then they could eat tons of crap all the time.

And yeah genetics too.
 
No, I think my point was missed.

Of course the reason they can eat shit is that they do endless cardio.

But it's just interesting a number of athletes eat shit and it doesn't effect their performance. I guess my question is from a performance perspective, if cals in = cals out, and RDI's and protein requirement are met, how much does quality of food (forgetting total extremes like trans fat) really affect atheletic/exercise performance
 
desmond said:
No, I think my point was missed.

Of course the reason they can eat shit is that they do endless cardio.

But it's just interesting a number of athletes eat shit and it doesn't effect their performance. I guess my question is from a performance perspective, if cals in = cals out, and RDI's and protein requirement are met, how much does quality of food (forgetting total extremes like trans fat) really affect atheletic/exercise performance
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Yeah thats a good point. But how "crappy" are these guys REALLY eating?

Only one I'm semi familiar with from your example is Michael Phelps. He eats a lot of food, but, it's not terrible. If you swim all day and eat pizza a lot is it THAT bad? Pizza has quick digesting carbs, tomatoe sauce and lots of protein from cheese.

I think he also eats a lot of burgers, steaks, fries and some other stuff. It all seems like quick acting fuel to me.

Like they say, the only time you can eat like a "fat guy" is post work out. Well half of the day michael phelps is in post work out mode since he exercises religiously multiple times a week, multiple times a day.
 
desmond said:
No, I think my point was missed.

Of course the reason they can eat shit is that they do endless cardio.

But it's just interesting a number of athletes eat shit and it doesn't effect their performance. I guess my question is from a performance perspective, if cals in = cals out, and RDI's and protein requirement are met, how much does quality of food (forgetting total extremes like trans fat) really affect atheletic/exercise performance
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The problem with fast food is the addition of garbage preservatives, the lack of vitamins and minerals found in that horrible hamburger bun bread, and the amount of cholesterol and trans/& saturated fats.


I would beg to argue that eating clean will help performance quite a bit. But, on a highly significant level, maybe not so much.

Overall health will affect athletic performance for sure. How much, I can't really say.
 
joe d said:
a young skinny guy with a super high metab. who is trying to build miscle will need to eat foods similar to this they want to gain. high cal, fat, carb, prot all in one little meal. sometimes its the only way.
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exactly what im doing. if i eat all lean shit im not gonna grow. too fast of a metabolism. i need the mcdonalds once in a while. and i loveee me some big macs:p
 
I recall one of our gold medal winning cyclists basically saying he lived off maccas.

I know Rafael Nadal who is insanely fit eats chocolate for breakfast and pizza most nights (or at least he used to)

And yes Phelps is legendary.

I agree though some food like pizza may be considered bad from a bf perspective, but its ingredients are hardly terrible and if u could see how they are useful from a performance perspective.

If you look at studies on high GI v low GI for athletic performance, they are pretty mixed and don't give an overwhelming support for low GI carbs (most exercising people have good insulin sensitivity, so hence for many high GI carbs won't be fattening uniquely except of course on a cals in v cals out basis)

A friend of mine at the Australian institute of sports (basketball) was just told to eat as many carbs as possible - and basically said his coach didn't care where they come from.

Having said that, I'm not going to try this junk food approach. My diet is ATM just vegetables, lean meats, eggs, milk, herbs and cocoa, bananas PWO and 99% of the time nothing else

Elementality said:
Yeah thats a good point. But how "crappy" are these guys REALLY eating?

Only one I'm semi familiar with from your example is Michael Phelps. He eats a lot of food, but, it's not terrible. If you swim all day and eat pizza a lot is it THAT bad? Pizza has quick digesting carbs, tomatoe sauce and lots of protein from cheese.

I think he also eats a lot of burgers, steaks, fries and some other stuff. It all seems like quick acting fuel to me.

Like they say, the only time you can eat like a "fat guy" is post work out. Well half of the day michael phelps is in post work out mode since he exercises religiously multiple times a week, multiple times a day.
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phelps is a terrible example. the guys works out as his job. unless you are going to be burning 10k cals or more per day, doesn't make sense to calorie and carbo load
 
i am a huge eater. i clear 7000 cals ed. this is not my diet now but one time i did an experiment searching for a way to make use of more food. based on the carbs fueling everything includung protein synthesis theory i went from 7 to 14 meals per day. i still ate my huge 7 meals but about 45 minutes before each meal i would eat about 30g of simple carbs. the result was a faster digestion rate. the faster digestion let me eat more and the eating more helped me recover faster and recovering faster lets me train harder and training harder burns more cals. the concept works and i still use it. the numbers would be different for everyone. my trick now is still pretty much the same. i eat simple carbs with every meal and i eat less of the complex carbs. the complex carbs limit how much you can eat more than anything. there are pros and cons in any type of diet but for me the 600-700g of protein ed out weighs any bad from the bb'ing stand point.
 
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