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50cent said:
how bad are those liver numbers? i dont drink or take anything else. i couldnt have possibly , permanately damaged myself with 1 6 wk cycle, could I?


they are definately up there, but I would say temporarily, I wouldn't think 1 6 week cycle would do it, but I am not a physician, so I cannot so for sure....most of us have done more than that bro, just watch your numbers and use your anti oxidants, watch the cholesterol too.
 
indy69camaro said:
they are definately up there, but I would say temporarily, I wouldn't think 1 6 week cycle would do it, but I am not a physician, so I cannot so for sure....most of us have done more than that bro, just watch your numbers and use your anti oxidants, watch the cholesterol too.
Thanx, Im going 2 lay low until retest. my next cycle is going to be low 20mg per day for 6wks (im following East German protocol 20mg max to boost strength rather than size). then ill get retested again. if its high then, i wont be able to continue using it. Agree?
 
50cent said:
Thanx, Im going 2 lay low until retest. my next cycle is going to be low 20mg per day for 6wks (im following East German protocol 20mg max to boost strength rather than size). then ill get retested again. if its high then, i wont be able to continue using it. Agree?

yes I somewhat agree, what you need to know is your baseline values, when system is clean, are they normal at that time ?? if not there are other issues, if so, you need to be careful with the orals.
 
indy69camaro said:
yes I somewhat agree, what you need to know is your baseline values, when system is clean, are they normal at that time ?? if not there are other issues, if so, you need to be careful with the orals.
ill find out what my baseline was pre cycle. never ever had any issues havent had a drink in 15 yrs so its not that. I guess my question now is, When will i be "clean"? ive seen 5days -5weeks. anyone know? thanx
 
50cent said:
ill find out what my baseline was pre cycle. never ever had any issues havent had a drink in 15 yrs so its not that. I guess my question now is, When will i be "clean"? ive seen 5days -5weeks. anyone know? thanx


usually about 2 months, for me anyways
 
galaxy said:
Winny will never be obsolete. U didnt see Rafael Palmerio test positive for tbol did u? I think Shawn Ray tested postive too for winny one year. Didnt Fernando Vargas test postive for winny too? And u may gain 7 lbs one cycle but it wont be that way again with a second run.
i know that winny will never be obsolete but having done both i think it should be, winny is much more prevalent and made by so many companies, tbol is made by bd and the rest of the brands are suspect unless you know a homebrewer :p . galaxy you are a solid bro youre def right but hey raffy, fernando and shawn ray wouldn't have tested positive if they had done tbol and they wouldnt have that damn joint pain. lol. give it a try thats all i am saying. though you are probably right about the gains not being the same each time, i believe mendo has done the cycle several times all yielding 10lbs of lean mass, however, he is an endomorph while i am an ecto so it won't be the same for me.
 
faaassst said:
What did you do for pct Bruce?
just nolva bro, 40mg ed one week 20mg ed two more, i didn't even finish the nolva though i felt great the recovery was a cinch. i recover very well though, i had no problems recovering from a deca winny cycle no test, all i had was a bit of depression for a few weeks, but i kept my gains. of course with that cycle i used hcg and nolva.
 
yep, agree with bruce. TBOL is the shizz..great pumps, low water retention, nice aggressive work outs. I ran 40mgs everyday and I thought that was even too much for me. But, it was definitely a great beginner to my cycle that I am currently on..

good times :)
 
try tbol if you can get it. that is the only reason you shouldn't try it if you can only get ip or just can't find it. awesome stuff i can't say enough about it. it really boosted my bench press and ive kept it all
 
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