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Israel wants $12 Billion more from United States

SolidRock said:
Pure Extract, there is or wasnt anything as Israeli culuture that was invented in 1948.

Israel has been there for God knows how long. It did exist then didn't and now it does again. And I said Jewish culture, not Israeli I'm not really going to get into all of this because it's pointless.

Just going to respond to some people

Frackal, what's up bro, well they do back us up during the war. Yes, they benefit more from us than we do from them, but that's the case with many other countries.

Fast Twitch, backing Israel led the attack on the world trade center? I hope that's not what you're suggesting. The world trade center if anything was our fault because we knew about it and WE didn't get the information to the right people fast enough or we didn't take it seriously or whatever their excuse was.

Though I wish I could put a bullet through every American hating Arab, or any American hater for that matter, but I can understand their reason for attacking us, I absolutely hate them for it, but we can all understand their reasoning. It's wrong sure, but they believe we are the enemy and when you think someone's the enemy you're going to get them somehow, one way or another. I just wish i could go live some place where we don't have to put up with all this stupid shit.
 
Don't even get me started on that fucking country and its pig society! I read a headline on the news the other day "US asks Isreal to please stop selling military arms to China"

Big fucking shock! Those greedy bastards, we supply them with 6 billion a year earned through the work of USA citizens, and we build their military with US weapons, then they sell it to the fucking red disease. It is time for the USA to become a Nationalist state.
 
There is several reasons why the USA supports Israel. Probably the absolute biggest reason is that Israel is our closest and biggest ally in the world. Israel has NO OTHER friends. Without U.S. support Israel's would be up shits creek without a paddle. Israel wouldn't fall, but that is only because the nation is armed to the teeth and has nuclear weapons, and is more than willing to blow the rest of the world to hell. Israel is like a vicious dog with one master, without the united states holding it back, it would end up taking chunks out of everyone else.

So Israel needs the U.S.A. I also tend to believe Israel does the United States dirty work. We all know the Israel and the mossad has no problem assassinating folks, its a known fact the Israelis will hunt you down and kill you even if it takes 40 years. Also Jewish folks make up very powerfull special interest groups in the USA. Jewish people obviously support Israel. Also, the right wing christians in the country support Israel, because my understanding is the Israelies have to kick the arabs ass in order for things to go right according to the bible. I could be wrong on that though, so don't flame me to death.

The only thing is, even though we have so much power over Israel we don't use it. Israel is our best military ally but WE DON"T EVER USE THEM. Sure we got a big doberman in the front yard, but if we ever sick it on someone, the neighborhood will kick us out. So israel is only usefull nowdays in pretty much and end of the world situation. Take the Iraq war..... we made Israel not retaliate even tho they got hit by scud missles.... because of the backlash and drama that would have taken place had israel gotten involved in the war.

So israel is of hardly any use to us militarily. Cause the biggest gun in the world is of no use, if your not willing to use it. And we don't want to use the Israeli gun........ we don't..... cause we NEVER HAVE.

Israel also takes our money, and they cause us problems in the middle east. Israel may be the most civilized nation in the middle east but it is holding everyone else back. We loose so much ground economicaly in the region, and loose so much ground politicaly because of the israeli-palestinian conflict. Most animosity towards the USA in the region comes out of the the USA one sided approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflic.

Me? I don't give a fuck about the palestinians or the israelies. I am lookin and bang for the buck and projecting U.S. influence onto the region. We FORCE Israel and the Palestinians to make peace. And we CAN do it. ONLY THE USA can do it. The U.N. would have already done it, but we are stopping them, with U.S. power we could pressure the U.N. to end the violence, and rebuild the area democraticaly. Do that.... and everyone else won't have so much to bitch at us about. Invade Iraq and bring democracy to the nation with the world largest oil reserves. Between Iraq, and the formers U.S.S.R. there is alot of potential to break the oil cartels. End result..... more U.S. control over the region, more peace, major boost for the global economy and in the end, taking the middle east out of the middle ages and into the modern civilized era. The U.S.A. is the one country that can bring peace to the middle east. The U.S.A. is the one country that help advance the middle east. We just have to do it, and believe it or not, but what is most beneficial for us, is actually most beneficial for the region. Policy makers just do not realize this. They are blinded by special interest groups, have outdated ideas about the value of Israel to the U.S. and look too much at the short term and not the long term.

Money changes everything, people get poor and they get unhappy, and then they turn into religious fanatics who want to kill everyone else. Sure Osama Bin Laden was a millionaire, but he's the exception not the rule.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
 
DirtyDogman said:
There is several reasons why the USA supports Israel. Probably the absolute biggest reason is that Israel is our closest and biggest ally in the world. Israel has NO OTHER friends. Without U.S. support Israel's would be up shits creek without a paddle. Israel wouldn't fall, but that is only because the nation is armed to the teeth and has nuclear weapons, and is more than willing to blow the rest of the world to hell. Israel is like a vicious dog with one master, without the united states holding it back, it would end up taking chunks out of everyone else.

So Israel needs the U.S.A. I also tend to believe Israel does the United States dirty work. We all know the Israel and the mossad has no problem assassinating folks, its a known fact the Israelis will hunt you down and kill you even if it takes 40 years. Also Jewish folks make up very powerfull special interest groups in the USA. Jewish people obviously support Israel. Also, the right wing christians in the country support Israel, because my understanding is the Israelies have to kick the arabs ass in order for things to go right according to the bible. I could be wrong on that though, so don't flame me to death.

The only thing is, even though we have so much power over Israel we don't use it. Israel is our best military ally but WE DON"T EVER USE THEM. Sure we got a big doberman in the front yard, but if we ever sick it on someone, the neighborhood will kick us out. So israel is only usefull nowdays in pretty much and end of the world situation. Take the Iraq war..... we made Israel not retaliate even tho they got hit by scud missles.... because of the backlash and drama that would have taken place had israel gotten involved in the war.

So israel is of hardly any use to us militarily. Cause the biggest gun in the world is of no use, if your not willing to use it. And we don't want to use the Israeli gun........ we don't..... cause we NEVER HAVE.

Israel also takes our money, and they cause us problems in the middle east. Israel may be the most civilized nation in the middle east but it is holding everyone else back. We loose so much ground economicaly in the region, and loose so much ground politicaly because of the israeli-palestinian conflict. Most animosity towards the USA in the region comes out of the the USA one sided approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflic.

Me? I don't give a fuck about the palestinians or the israelies. I am lookin and bang for the buck and projecting U.S. influence onto the region. We FORCE Israel and the Palestinians to make peace. And we CAN do it. ONLY THE USA can do it. The U.N. would have already done it, but we are stopping them, with U.S. power we could pressure the U.N. to end the violence, and rebuild the area democraticaly. Do that.... and everyone else won't have so much to bitch at us about. Invade Iraq and bring democracy to the nation with the world largest oil reserves. Between Iraq, and the formers U.S.S.R. there is alot of potential to break the oil cartels. End result..... more U.S. control over the region, more peace, major boost for the global economy and in the end, taking the middle east out of the middle ages and into the modern civilized era. The U.S.A. is the one country that can bring peace to the middle east. The U.S.A. is the one country that help advance the middle east. We just have to do it, and believe it or not, but what is most beneficial for us, is actually most beneficial for the region. Policy makers just do not realize this. They are blinded by special interest groups, have outdated ideas about the value of Israel to the U.S. and look too much at the short term and not the long term.

Money changes everything, people get poor and they get unhappy, and then they turn into religious fanatics who want to kill everyone else. Sure Osama Bin Laden was a millionaire, but he's the exception not the rule.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

I am very impressed with your objective and intelligent opinion.

Please stick around and share more of your opinions.

Karma for you.
 
SolidRock said:
Americans these days make me SICK, Americans are not concenred with their own land and their own people anymore, instead they are worried about some Israeli Nazis, its a shame, we are not Israel, we are America, we got enough problems of our own, economically, instead of giving tons of money away give this money to our own people. People like this are the reason America is declining.

Most american jews care more about Israel than America, very sick.

It's sad but true. Isreal controls US policies and what we do in the middle east.

We as americans pay for the bullets of Isrealis that kill Arab boys.
 
FreakMonster said:

We as americans pay for the bullets of Isrealis that kill Arab boys.

and thats the #1 reason why the arabic people hate amaricans and america. They all know that and if the average american did there would not be the high level of support for that country that it receives.
 
SolidRock said:


Most american jews care more about Israel than America, very sick.

It was not until recently I figured this out.

Someone said that to me and I was flat out disturbed. So I began to simply ask jewish people questions about Israel.. and they would get offended that I would even ask a question about that God forsaken shithole.


The more you learn about the stronghold Israel has on our country and the way they shape and form the political minds of the majority of CNN viewers.. it will turn your stomach as well.
 
PURE EXTRACT said:


You can't expect someone to give up all their loyalty to their culture just because they become American. If there was war in Mexico, or Italy, or wherever else you can think of, I'm sure that they would want the US to support them, and would care more about what's happening over there. Look, it's a fucked up situation that will not be solved in OUR lifetime. This has been going on since Biblical timelines and it's not going to change anytime soon. I do believe that Jewish people are the chosen people of God and the day we do NOT support them will be the beginning of the end. Just my personal beliefs. All we know for sure is that one day we'll all find out


You have not been reading your Bible young lad.
 
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