is it possible to be natural on the Olyp stage?

[zwhit]

He has been going to the gym with me since he was 9 to learn how to act and not to act ect. Just hanging out. At 10 I let him do little stuff, lots of empty bar shit to learn form and safety. Last year I had him doing a bunch more stuff. This past off season he has been going and doing as much as he can between growth spurts. when his joints get sore from a growth spurt I dont let him do anything.
He decided to give up all sports a couple years ago to focus on just football. HE wants to play pro ball..and he actually has a shot genetically. Therefore he is getting a head start years before anyone else with diet, life, training ect. He eats to grow bro. I dont have him on a cutter or anythhing. Strictness for diet as it pertains to him at his point just means he needs to eat 5 or 6 times a day. I let him have plenty of junk food. I just dont let him be 99% of everyone else and sit in front of the tv shoveling ice cream and chips 24/7 being a lazy piece of typical american populous garbage. He thinks fat people are disgusting. Example, His school lunch is 7-8 oz of chicken breast chopped up with his choice of what he wants on it. Some rice, a snack or two and water. The water is HIS choice. He has a huge breakfats and also has a shake with him for pre football practice.
He gets to do plenty of kid things. He gets to have lots of fun. He trains when its time to train and bust his balls. Then he gets to do whatever he wants. Im not an ogre bro. I am an asshole when its time to train. its business. When we are done we are done. I have given him countless lectures and talks to make sure he knows the difference between the way I act during training and that any motivational yelling and screaming is for his own benefit. he knows that. he's a good natured kid. His humor, understanding and intelligence is a few years beyond his actual age. I tell him when he gets annoyed with me making him do another set or whatever,,,, "well your either going to thank me when you get your signing bonus and realize why I was so rough on you or your going to hate my ass" towhich he smiles and says whatever dad, I wont hate you.
He has seen me live the life style since he was born so its not like its culture shock to him either. When I'm not injured, he is actually been my training partner this last 8 months or so. He loves it when I can train with him.

I grew up playing ball with buster posey. his dad beat baseball into his head from little league all the way through high school and college. he didnt live the life of a typical high schooler and now he's not your typical 26 year old, being worth $170 mil.

a lot of kids do burn out, but for the ones who want it, it works

 

[bigbassturd]

I grew up playing ball with buster posey. his dad beat baseball into his head from little league all the way through high school and college. he didnt live the life of a typical high schooler and now he's not your typical 26 year old, being worth $170 mil.

a lot of kids do burn out, but for the ones who want it, it works

I played HS football with J. Charles, and he wasn't the best RB on the team. Another kid you'll never hear of blew Charles away in every aspect of the game, but his parents didn't give a fuck how good he was. He almost never had a ride to/from 2-a-days during the summer, and in fact our whole junior year he had to live with another player because his parents wouldn't keep jobs and got evicted from their shithole apartment.

He quit football to get a job so that he had food to eat and clothes.

Charles got the starting job, UT full ride, and is now a pro-bowler. Charles also got told on a regular basis at home if he didn't get good grades and give 100% on the field he'd get yanked before the coach ever got a chance to warn him

 

[zwhit]

j charles is a bad dude.

also, ronnie coleman could've been natural in that video, imo. there's some absolute freak athletes out there. south carolina's clowney could probably trim down and step on stage all natural and beat most juicers

that's not to say that anyone near the olympia level bodybuilding is natural. I just think most of the genetically gifted athletes tend to follow the more mainstream sports like football rather than BBing

 

[bigbassturd]

Look at Cushing for the Texans. And Manning's old center Saturday has trimmed down to a fuckin jacked and tan 235 dude looks like a beast

Both of those guys are clean and could easily adjust diet/training and walk on stage

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Charles also got told on a regular basis at home if he didn't get good grades and give 100% on the field he'd get yanked before the coach ever got a chance to warn him

Thats another aspect too. My kid has been an honor student since they started keeping track of that shit in 4th grade. He loses priveledges for anything below a 90 on his report card. He knows its for a good cause plus he doesnt want to work at walmart when he grows up.

Charles is a bad mother fucker btw.

 

[bigbassturd]

Wtf use is all that talent if you're an uneducated fuckin waste?

And yes, Charles is a very bad dude. Never seen a human body change direction that fast and in 3 steps be at full speed. Freaky.

 

[RickRock13]

He has been going to the gym with me since he was 9 to learn how to act and not to act ect. Just hanging out. At 10 I let him do little stuff, lots of empty bar shit to learn form and safety. Last year I had him doing a bunch more stuff. This past off season he has been going and doing as much as he can between growth spurts. when his joints get sore from a growth spurt I dont let him do anything.
He decided to give up all sports a couple years ago to focus on just football. HE wants to play pro ball..and he actually has a shot genetically. Therefore he is getting a head start years before anyone else with diet, life, training ect. He eats to grow bro. I dont have him on a cutter or anythhing. Strictness for diet as it pertains to him at his point just means he needs to eat 5 or 6 times a day. I let him have plenty of junk food. I just dont let him be 99% of everyone else and sit in front of the tv shoveling ice cream and chips 24/7 being a lazy piece of typical american populous garbage. He thinks fat people are disgusting. Example, His school lunch is 7-8 oz of chicken breast chopped up with his choice of what he wants on it. Some rice, a snack or two and water. The water is HIS choice. He has a huge breakfats and also has a shake with him for pre football practice.
He gets to do plenty of kid things. He gets to have lots of fun. He trains when its time to train and bust his balls. Then he gets to do whatever he wants. Im not an ogre bro. I am an asshole when its time to train. its business. When we are done we are done. I have given him countless lectures and talks to make sure he knows the difference between the way I act during training and that any motivational yelling and screaming is for his own benefit. he knows that. he's a good natured kid. His humor, understanding and intelligence is a few years beyond his actual age. I tell him when he gets annoyed with me making him do another set or whatever,,,, "well your either going to thank me when you get your signing bonus and realize why I was so rough on you or your going to hate my ass" towhich he smiles and says whatever dad, I wont hate you.
He has seen me live the life style since he was born so its not like its culture shock to him either. When I'm not injured, he is actually been my training partner this last 8 months or so. He loves it when I can train with him.

I say you are doing a very good thing bro. Look at how the average American raises their children on TV, video games, and fast food, and see how that sets them up for life. Most kids nowadays are set up for disaster from the start because of how they are raised, which sets them up to live that lifestyle the rest of their lives, and carrying it on down to their children....and the cycle continues. That's how our society has gotten so fat and out of shape.

If more people would influence their children's lives like this, we would put a serious dent in our obesity epidemic. I say congratulations on being a positive influence and not a negative one. It sounds like you are supporting him in all of his decisions and helping to guide him without pushing him into anything he doesn't want to do.

 

[El Hefe]

Look at Cushing for the Texans. And Manning's old center Saturday has trimmed down to a fuckin jacked and tan 235 dude looks like a beast

Both of those guys are clean and could easily adjust diet/training and walk on stage

Cushing is one of my favorite players. I've had my son study his highlight reels. But he's not all natural.

 

[El Hefe]

It's hard keeping these kids on track. Like BTC, I train with my 9 year old son and try to teach him as much as I can and instill good, long lasting habits.

But at his age, as smart as he is (QB, pitcher, Shortstop, boxer, etc), sometimes they lack the capacity, endurance, aggression, hormones, etc. to maintain such a program.

So I've reached the point where it's voluntary now because I want him to enjoy it and not get burnt out. If he wants to train, great. If not, he can take as many days off until he comes to me ready to do business.

I'm not sure exactly what the best approach is. I'll let y'all know in 10 years.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Cushing is one of my favorite players. I've had my son study his highlight reels. But he's not all natural.

Find some video of Cushing at the combine....holy shit did he have long floppy pancake tits from real bad gyno. Right out of high school too. He was running and it was flopping up and down.