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9/10

The only reason I gave it a 9 out of 10 is because there was one dream layer that was boring (JMO) but I am going to go see it again with my Dad so its worth seeing twice. Great movie. I have no questions coming out of the movie either, satisfied with the end. It was fun to watch


Go see it!

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Outstanding film. A masterpiece.

Its funny hearing some peoples interpretations of the end, though.
 
Outstanding film. A masterpiece.

Its funny hearing some peoples interpretations of the end, though.

lol true, my sister interpreted the ending different than I did. I have no one else to talk to about it, no one else I know has seen it.
 
I wouldn't call it a masterpiece but it was very well made. I did like in the end when they cut off just before you were going to find out if that ladel thingy was going to falter or not. I think it was another dream state of his. How would that japanese guy make one phone call and 20 minutes later some international fugitive was taken off the computers? Wouldn't happen....not even if the president made a phone call. It would take days for his name to get deleted from all the immigrations database's.
 
I wouldn't call it a masterpiece but it was very well made. I did like in the end when they cut off just before you were going to find out if that ladel thingy was going to falter or not. I think it was another dream state of his. How would that japanese guy make one phone call and 20 minutes later some international fugitive was taken off the computers? Wouldn't happen....not even if the president made a phone call. It would take days for his name to get deleted from all the immigrations database's.

I do not accept that ending! :mad::):cool:
 
I wouldn't call it a masterpiece but it was very well made. I did like in the end when they cut off just before you were going to find out if that ladel thingy was going to falter or not. I think it was another dream state of his. How would that japanese guy make one phone call and 20 minutes later some international fugitive was taken off the computers? Wouldn't happen....not even if the president made a phone call. It would take days for his name to get deleted from all the immigrations database's.

The most obvious aspect (IMO) is that the kids were the same age, wearing the same clothes, and sitting in the same place in the yard. Its as if his new dream is picking up where his life left off.

Also, saw it a second time and noticed something that may or may not be a coincidence: In every dream state, Leo always has his wedding ring on. Whenever hes not dreaming, its absent. He had it on in the last scene.
 
i'll watch it and give my review.

i'm not a big fan of chris nolan, although i do respect his talent as a director and his work.

toy story 3 was a very good movie.
it wasn't great, it wasn't brilliant.
4/5 stars is what i gave it.

sadly, my best rating this year.
 
i'm so excited to see it. when i first saw the commercials for it it looked retarded but now that i actually know what it's about i want to go see it.
 
I wouldn't call it a masterpiece but it was very well made. I did like in the end when they cut off just before you were going to find out if that ladel thingy was going to falter or not. I think it was another dream state of his. How would that japanese guy make one phone call and 20 minutes later some international fugitive was taken off the computers? Wouldn't happen....not even if the president made a phone call. It would take days for his name to get deleted from all the immigrations database's.

wow thnx for killing the end for me foo
 
Saw it yesterday - really good flick and kept me hooked the whole time. Trying not to think too hard about the whole thing because there are many ways to interpret everything about the movie.

DiCaprio was good in the Departed and Basketball Diaries IMO.
 
The most obvious aspect (IMO) is that the kids were the same age, wearing the same clothes, and sitting in the same place in the yard. Its as if his new dream is picking up where his life left off.

Also, saw it a second time and noticed something that may or may not be a coincidence: In every dream state, Leo always has his wedding ring on. Whenever hes not dreaming, its absent. He had it on in the last scene.

Damn. When I go see it a second time I'll look for the wedding ring. I did notice his wedding ring a couple times when I saw it the first time, but got too wrapped up to pay attention to if he was in a dream layer or in reality. I prefer a good movie that can also pull off a happy ending. It will kinda kill it for me if he's in a dream.
 
Doesnt mean that he's not happy, though. If he doesnt know he's dreaming (which he doesnt) he's perfectly fine with whats happening around him.
 
Big opening weekend. Critics seem to love it so I guess it'll maintain good box office for a while despite not being your typical summer flick.
 
Saw it yesterday - really good flick and kept me hooked the whole time. Trying not to think too hard about the whole thing because there are many ways to interpret everything about the movie.

DiCaprio was good in the Departed and Basketball Diaries IMO.

Deserved an Oscar for Blood Diamond.
 
I thought his Departed performance was much better. He's been good in everything since then (Body of Lies, etc) but he seems to keep playing similar characters.

His character in this and Shutter Island were too similar for my taste, but he still knocked it out of the park.
 
I thought his Departed performance was much better. He's been good in everything since then (Body of Lies, etc) but he seems to keep playing similar characters.

His character in this and Shutter Island were too similar for my taste, but he still knocked it out of the park.

Yeah - oustanding in Departed as well. Like Brad Pitt, has done a good job transitioning from pretty boy to serious actor.
 
wow thnx for killing the end for me foo


oh shit, my bad dude. I got caught up talking with folks that had already seen it. You really should know that about this place...if you see a thread about a movie you want to go see, don't open it. Somebody will talk about the ending.

I feel bad though...my bad bro. :sad:
 
loved it, thought it was very well made for the concept

wasn't confusing, and it definitely didn't feel like 2.5 hours
 
I finally managed to see it last night (was still pulling big audiences) & it's one of the better films I've seen in the last 12 months. Not for 1 moment of it's 2'5 hours did the movie feel like it was dragging (was engrossed whole way through) & I was very satisfied with the ending.

Music score was fantastic as well. The English actor that was in Bronson was a welcome addition. Enjoyed the Brit actors' contingent overall. Didn't realise it was him until the end.

I enjoy watching DiCaprio as an actor; The Departed, Revolutionary Road, Catch me if you can etc & he looks better now with that bit of weight on (no homo).
 
Saw it yesterday and it's definitely the best movie I have seen in awhile.

Leo is going to have one ridiculous movie credits list by the end of his career.
 
So...
we went to see it last night and IMO it sucked. I was so confused and had no idea what was going on. It had nothing to do with the acting I just think the plot of the story was stupid. We walked out 40 minutes into it.
 
So...
we went to see it last night and IMO it sucked. I was so confused and had no idea what was going on. It had nothing to do with the acting I just think the plot of the story was stupid. We walked out 40 minutes into it.

really? no offense but you must not have been paying attention or just expected a lot of eye candy and not have to actually think and work while youre watching a movie as intelligently made as inception. it was badass, if youre able to actually follow it.
 
I take it you didnt make it to this scene ;the second dream layer while the truck was falling into the river (1st dream layer) - the hallway fight scene with Joseph Gorden Levett
 
i really liked it, i wish they got rid of most of the fight scenes in the snow fortress dream because eventually they became tedious and mostly insignificant compared with the rest of the story
 
the explanation i've embraced for inception is that it is an allegory about film making. creating a dream is like making a movie

the emotions and revelations resulting from the inception are significant for fischer despite his interaction with his father being a dream

the catharsis for cobb is meaningful for him regardless of whether or not he is still dreaming

and the emotions and insight experienced watching a movie are important even though it is all faek
 
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i think his wife was correct in thinking that they were double dreaming. she had figured it out, but he was too scared to let go

either way he couldnt abandon his kids in that dream state, which is why she tried to make it so that he was forced to.

i was all confused by the math of the dream in a dream and how fast time progresses, because on the other hand if he was dreaming, the time frame would have to be pretty short for all this to occur, and his kids would not have aged much...and is wife would have woken him up.

maybe in the sequel he wakes up and his wife is there
 
I hated, hated, hated, hated, hated, and also hated Inception..........

i'll explain why after i finish a review.

Chris Nolan did knock it out of the ballpark with the special effects, editing, and cinematography, but he produced it himself and had endless money so I can't get on my knees and worship him for that alone.

The acting was mediocre, the story SUCKED!!!! (yeah, I guessed the ending of the stupid film ten minutes into it.) Some crazy plot twist at the end, eh? I was told it was the greatest ending in cinematic history by multiple people. Instead I ended up flabbergasted, laughing my ass off on how god awful it was.

I must of missed the inciting incident, (the sound in the theatre didn't work for the first fifteen minutes of playing and they didn't restart the movie for us or refund us....) or maybe it didn't even have one.

I knew in my heart it was going to be another Memento like clone, since Chris Nolan can't think of anything to relate to in cinema except for his brothers one short story.

It should of been titled "Shutter Island 2" since DiCaprio played the exact same part. A crazy man who dreams up things in his head.

IMDB has this listed as the third best movie of all time.........
Nolan must own 50% of imdb.....

I swear on my life, if Dicaprio plays this role ONE more time I will hunt him down and kick his sorry ass.
He sunk down his acting career with the Titanic.....
 
I hated, hated, hated, hated, hated, and also hated Inception..........

i'll explain why after i finish a review.

Chris Nolan did knock it out of the ballpark with the special effects, editing, and cinematography, but he produced it himself and had endless money so I can't get on my knees and worship him for that alone.

The acting was mediocre, the story SUCKED!!!! (yeah, I guessed the ending of the stupid film ten minutes into it.) Some crazy plot twist at the end, eh? I was told it was the greatest ending in cinematic history by multiple people. Instead I ended up flabbergasted, laughing my ass off on how god awful it was.

I must of missed the inciting incident, (the sound in the theatre didn't work for the first fifteen minutes of playing and they didn't restart the movie for us or refund us....) or maybe it didn't even have one.

I knew in my heart it was going to be another Memento like clone, since Chris Nolan can't think of anything to relate to in cinema except for his brothers one short story.

It should of been titled "Shutter Island 2" since DiCaprio played the exact same part. A crazy man who dreams up things in his head.

IMDB has this listed as the third best movie of all time.........
Nolan must own 50% of imdb.....

I swear on my life, if Dicaprio plays this role ONE more time I will hunt him down and kick his sorry ass.
He sunk down his acting career with the Titanic.....

fuck rob, cant believe you think it sucked ass. I will definitely agree it does not have the best ending of all time, but certainly a good ending and well made movie throughout, for your average person wanting great intelligent film entertainment. Someone like you who writes screenplays and is in the industry and shit, of course, will take a much more critical eye to any given film.
 
I hated, hated, hated, hated, hated, and also hated Inception..........

i'll explain why after i finish a review.

Chris Nolan did knock it out of the ballpark with the special effects, editing, and cinematography, but he produced it himself and had endless money so I can't get on my knees and worship him for that alone.

The acting was mediocre, the story SUCKED!!!! (yeah, I guessed the ending of the stupid film ten minutes into it.) Some crazy plot twist at the end, eh? I was told it was the greatest ending in cinematic history by multiple people. Instead I ended up flabbergasted, laughing my ass off on how god awful it was.

I must of missed the inciting incident, (the sound in the theatre didn't work for the first fifteen minutes of playing and they didn't restart the movie for us or refund us....) or maybe it didn't even have one.

I knew in my heart it was going to be another Memento like clone, since Chris Nolan can't think of anything to relate to in cinema except for his brothers one short story.

It should of been titled "Shutter Island 2" since DiCaprio played the exact same part. A crazy man who dreams up things in his head.

IMDB has this listed as the third best movie of all time.........
Nolan must own 50% of imdb.....

I swear on my life, if Dicaprio plays this role ONE more time I will hunt him down and kick his sorry ass.
He sunk down his acting career with the Titanic.....

what
 
fuck rob, cant believe you think it sucked ass. I will definitely agree it does not have the best ending of all time, but certainly a good ending and well made movie throughout, for your average person wanting great intelligent film entertainment. Someone like you who writes screenplays and is in the industry and shit, of course, will take a much more critical eye to any given film.
I'm not in the industry, but I inspire to be a great filmmaker.

I really did want to love this film.
I'll explain everything in a review tomorrow.
 
some additional thoughts i had about the movie:

dream sharing machine seems kinda wack - little plastic tubes with bs liquid inside that goes into your wrist.. that's how they share thoughts? i doubt any inceptions or extractions are actually happening in this movie

is miles wearing the same thing in both paris and the airport? ehh

if the dream sharing is real:

cobb lets saito spin his top - could this mean that he is giving saito the key to creating a dream for him in which he is reunited with his family, and fulfilling his end of the bargain?

how did saito or cobb know inception was success?

parallels between fischer jr / fischer sr, and dom / miles: miles said he taught dom everything he knows, but he wants him to stop doing the extraction stuff and to "quit dreaming." at the same time, fischer sr wants fischer jr to be his own man, and stop following in his footsteps.

parallels between two goals: one is break up the company, one is break up cobb and mal. they both mean everything to fischer, and cobb, respectively

be your own man.

parallels between two inceptions: one is planting a spinning top in a safe, another is planting a pinwheel

when fischer, cobbs' child self finds the pinwheel and can be his own man, well then right after that cobb is able to break free of mal

kinda makes you think inception is really being done on cobb
 
It was all a dream. Everything. Even the ending of arriving in the States and seeing his kids again... that was a dream too. You don't know reality here. He could be a homeless man sleeping in a box with no wife or kids at all.

You see when they wake up on the plane and exit, as they pass each other, they don't speak, just a curd nod of the head. Like strangers - which they were - to each other who just shared a long flight. They were not team mates or such. Probably didn't even know each other's names.
 
lol
 
It was all a dream. Everything. Even the ending of arriving in the States and seeing his kids again... that was a dream too. You don't know reality here. He could be a homeless man sleeping in a box with no wife or kids at all.

You see when they wake up on the plane and exit, as they pass each other, they don't speak, just a curd nod of the head. Like strangers - which they were - to each other who just shared a long flight. They were not team mates or such. Probably didn't even know each other's names.

it still could be real, because they wouldn't be able to speak or acknowledge eachother anyway for risk of ruining the inception for fischer, who thinks they're all strangers. any interaction would remind him of the dream, or make him think something was up
 
My theory is Leo is in his own dream within a dream within a dream.

I mean seriously, what does Fischer relate to anything?
so he can find a toy in his dads safe and say, "i have to be my own man"?

that to me was also pathetic....

As I said, shutter island 2.
Once again Leo plays a crazy man in a dream psychosis that chooses the dream world over reality.

A dream jumper movie had so much more potential.
I'm not saying inception was the worst film of the year (like i said, strong cinematography, editing, and special effects), but I didn't like it.
 
I mean seriously, what does Fischer relate to anything?
so he can find a toy in his dads safe and say, "i have to be my own man"?

that to me was also pathetic....

They explained how implanted thoughts (ie inceptions) had to be formed...by planting a seed and having the subject figure it out on his own. Him saying he needs to be his own man is what sets the stage for the breakup of his father company, which is what Last Samurai wanted.
 
I'm going to go see it again on Sunday and keep a close eye on the wedding ring. I'm sure a google search will do it but I'd rather just see it again anyway. I'm convinced right now that in the ending the totem falls.
 
Still wouldnt explain why his kids are wearing the same clothes, are the same age, and are sitting in the same spot.

His dream is just a continuation of his memory before he walked out on them.

So in other words, youre going to cry and feel like shit again.
 
Still wouldnt explain why his kids are wearing the same clothes, are the same age, and are sitting in the same spot.

His dream is just a continuation of his memory before he walked out on them.

So in other words, youre going to cry and feel like shit again.

shut shut ur mouth
 
i'm saying 75th, what did getting fischer to do that do for the character of leo dicaprio. what ultimately was leo's drive, goal, and passion.
If his wife was already dead, it doesn't make any sense. If it was just getting fischer to do that, I think it's a stupid plot.
And if it was all one of leo's dreams within a dream within a dream like I believe it was, then the story just seems outright pointless to me.

I mean gosh, if you have ten years to write a screenplay and this is the only magic twist at the end you could come up with?
sad
 
i'm saying 75th, what did getting fischer to do that do for the character of leo dicaprio. what ultimately was leo's drive, goal, and passion.
If his wife was already dead, it doesn't make any sense. If it was just getting fischer to do that, I think it's a stupid plot.
And if it was all one of leo's dreams within a dream within a dream like I believe it was, then the story just seems outright pointless to me.

I mean gosh, if you have ten years to write a screenplay and this is the only magic twist at the end you could come up with?
sad

His motivation to get the job done was that Last Samurai would make it so he could return to the US and see his kids again.

Whether or not the entire thing was a dream doesnt change the stakes in Leo's character's mind.
 
i'm saying 75th, what did getting fischer to do that do for the character of leo dicaprio. what ultimately was leo's drive, goal, and passion.
If his wife was already dead, it doesn't make any sense. If it was just getting fischer to do that, I think it's a stupid plot.
And if it was all one of leo's dreams within a dream within a dream like I believe it was, then the story just seems outright pointless to me.

I mean gosh, if you have ten years to write a screenplay and this is the only magic twist at the end you could come up with?
sad

I think you need to go back and see this where you can hear the first 15 minutes or rent it and give it another try. His drive was to do this last job because Saito offered him amnesty back into the country for "killing" his wife so he could see his children's faces again. That is why he didnt want to see their faces in his dreams. He didnt want to be tempted to submit to the dream he WANTED to be in reality. This was his last job, inception. I believe Saito was powerful enough to get this done, remember he bought his own airline on a whim?
 
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I think you need to go back and see this where you can hear the first 15 minutes. His drive was to do this last job because Saito offered him amnesty back into the country for "killing" his wife so he could see his children's faces again. That is why he didnt want to see their faces in his dreams. He didnt want to be tempted to submit to the dream he WANTED to be in reality. This was his last job, inception. I believe Saito was powerful enough to get this done, remember he bought his own airline on a whim?

how did saito or cobb know the inception was successful?
 
Still wouldnt explain why his kids are wearing the same clothes, are the same age, and are sitting in the same spot.

His dream is just a continuation of his memory before he walked out on them.

So in other words, youre going to cry and feel like shit again.

the kids look a little older and have slightly different clothes on
 
how did saito or cobb know the inception was successful?

All cobb was supposed to do was plant the seed. They wont know if the inception was successful until he actually breaks up the companies. From the beginning when they were plotting they would have never known if the inception was successful from the plane
 
how did saito or cobb know the inception was successful?

As long as 28 Days Later got the point in the dream then chances are that would translate to his reality.

Him coming to terms with the "wishes" of his father is all Saito hired him for.
 
right but what i'm saying is that how would they know he was revived and found the safe?

saito and cobb were both in limbo at the time, and last thing they saw of fischer in the snow fortress was him getting killed. they didn't talk to anyone who would know he got the pinwheel until after saito made the call from the plane
 
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lol
 
i wasn't paying attention closely enough, but i read and was told by teh girl that those children were in deed wearing different clothing at the end. as far as their ages at the end, i didn't notice/register a difference, but do we know for sure that all that shit went down years ago, instead of just months ago? that fact by itself doesn't mean much.

i haven't seen shutter island, but i hate those "it was all a dream" interpretations...they are the worst, unless the film leaves no doubt that this is the case. i prefer to take a simpler approach and take things at face value (in this case, that the ending is legitimate reality) unless there's some bit of information consistent with the film's own internal logic which makes this most basic or obvious interpretation illogical. i don't see anything definitively inconsistent with the possibility that the ending is "real", as opposed to more dream life, but i'm sure there's stuff i'm forgetting.

i found the movie interesting or engaging enough. i liked the look and tone, even the fashion or style (nice suits, no homo), of the movie. however, there is no stand-out acting or dialogue that i remember, but the brit dude played a cool character. a few interesting visuals...i would have liked more of these. the whole thing was pretty fucking ambitious, to keep multiple timeframes up in the air and make it coherent.

all in all, there's no greatness in this film. a great film has to have a compelling story that speaks to you, and it has to have an emotional gravity, along with some great lines, scenes, and performances that stay with you for the long haul.

i'm often curious about a movie's IMDB score, but hey, that score is ridiculous.
 
right but what i'm saying is that how would they know he was revived and found the safe?

saito and cobb were both in limbo at the time, and last thing they saw of fischer in the snow fortress was him getting killed. they didn't talk to anyone who would know he got the pinwheel until after saito made the call from the plane

fischer and adrienne and cobb were all in limbo together for a minute tho - right? Fug I cant remember. Im getting confused LOL :confused: Saito died in level 3 and went to Limbo as well. Right? :confused::confused::confused::confused: I still think in the end he is in reality. I guess we will never know. did anyone stay past the credits?
 
really? no offense but you must not have been paying attention or just expected a lot of eye candy and not have to actually think and work while youre watching a movie as intelligently made as inception. it was badass, if youre able to actually follow it.

what he said!

:supercool
 
fischer and adrienne and cobb were all in limbo together for a minute tho - right? Fug I cant remember. Im getting confused LOL :confused: Saito died in level 3 and went to Limbo as well. Right? :confused::confused::confused::confused: I still think in the end he is in reality. I guess we will never know. did anyone stay past the credits?

the 3 were together in limbo briefly but neither fisher nor saito were there when fisher is revived.

so from what i understand, saito would've had to make that phone call from the airplane without actually knowing whether fisher really talked to his dad and got the pinwheel from the safe. i would be a lot more inclined to believe that the 2nd airplane scene was reality if ariadne or eames had nodded to saito before he whipped his phone out and started dialing
 
the 3 were together in limbo briefly but neither fisher nor saito were there when fisher is revived.

so from what i understand, saito would've had to make that phone call from the airplane without actually knowing whether fisher really talked to his dad and got the pinwheel from the safe. i would be a lot more inclined to believe that the 2nd airplane scene was reality if ariadne or eames had nodded to saito before he whipped his phone out and started dialing

shit
 
although at that point it may be reasonable just to believe that saito was going to help cobb no matter what, given that he found him and limbo and saved his mind
 
I finally got to see this movie last night. I thought it was awesome. I don't know how anyone can say it sucked. I don't think it was the best movie ever, but it definitely was a great movie.
 
i wasn't paying attention closely enough, but i read and was told by teh girl that those children were in deed wearing different clothing at the end. as far as their ages at the end, i didn't notice/register a difference, but do we know for sure that all that shit went down years ago, instead of just months ago? that fact by itself doesn't mean much.

i haven't seen shutter island, but i hate those "it was all a dream" interpretations...they are the worst, unless the film leaves no doubt that this is the case. i prefer to take a simpler approach and take things at face value (in this case, that the ending is legitimate reality) unless there's some bit of information consistent with the film's own internal logic which makes this most basic or obvious interpretation illogical. i don't see anything definitively inconsistent with the possibility that the ending is "real", as opposed to more dream life, but i'm sure there's stuff i'm forgetting.

i found the movie interesting or engaging enough. i liked the look and tone, even the fashion or style (nice suits, no homo), of the movie. however, there is no stand-out acting or dialogue that i remember, but the brit dude played a cool character. a few interesting visuals...i would have liked more of these. the whole thing was pretty fucking ambitious, to keep multiple timeframes up in the air and make it coherent.

all in all, there's no greatness in this film. a great film has to have a compelling story that speaks to you, and it has to have an emotional gravity, along with some great lines, scenes, and performances that stay with you for the long haul.

i'm often curious about a movie's IMDB score, but hey, that score is ridiculous.
this is right on the money.
this 300mil budget (probably actually a 30-60 mil budget, since they lie about them) produced a decent film.
nothing great about it except the special effects.
 
After seeing it a second time I'm 100% sure the ending was reality, and its because of the wedding ring. Its on in every dream scene and off in reality. The ring is our totem
 
fischer senior, at the end in his death bed telling jr 'sup,
that was the artist dude right?
good flick
 
I dont like him as an actor... pretty weak performances... I also dislike Adam Sandler and Kevin James who everyone seems to freaking like... I guess Im different in my actor selection...


i think dicaprio is one of the top 5 actors of his generation. who do you like better?
 
I dont like him as an actor... pretty weak performances... I also dislike Adam Sandler and Kevin James who everyone seems to freaking like... I guess Im different in my actor selection...

yea i dislike sandler too, same with david spade.
typecasts...but leo isn't in that class, dude is a pimp.
crushed it in avaiator, same with blood diamond, strong performer imo
 
i think dicaprio is one of the top 5 actors of his generation. who do you like better?

I like DiCaprio's work, but for me:

Matt Damon
Hugo Weaving
Daniel Craig
Ed Norton
Philip Seymour Hoffman
Christian Bale

Denzil Washington, Samuel L. Jackson, Sean Penn, Daniel Day-Lewis & Kevin Spacey are arguably of a slighter older generation I guess, but I rate them higher too.
 
I like DiCaprio's work, but for me:

Matt Damon
Hugo Weaving
Daniel Craig
Ed Norton
Philip Seymour Hoffman
Christian Bale

Denzil Washington, Samuel L. Jackson, Sean Penn, Daniel Day-Lewis & Kevin Spacey are arguably of a slighter older generation I guess, but I rate them higher too.

I like Eric Bana and Ryan Gosling as well
 
Matt Damon and Sean Penn top Leo (no homo)?
hollywood activists annoy me so much, maybe it's colored
my perception of these bros...but i think they are complete
loads.

 
I like DiCaprio's work, but for me:

Matt Damon
Hugo Weaving
Daniel Craig
Ed Norton
Philip Seymour Hoffman
Christian Bale

i agree with you on norton, and i can see a case for damon and PSH.

daniel craig i don't think has done enough outside of action to be considered great, and while bale has done some crazy stuff, something bothers me about his acting.

hugo weaving is horrible imo and did a shit job as elrond. agent smith i dont think requires any special acting. basically just talk slow and act like a robot?
 
hugo weaving is horrible imo and did a shit job as elrond. agent smith i dont think requires any special acting. basically just talk slow and act like a robot?

He was fabulous in Priscilla, Queen of the Desert orb, but yea true, when you think about it he really hasn't done a lot of stuff. I'd probs switch in Jason Isaacs in his place.
 
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