I think my gear days are over!!!!

[40butpumpin]

Thanks for all the concern my brothers,I'm hanging on to a skinny little
208 lbs at 5 "6 1/2 but i lost 8 - 10 lbs in the hospital
because of fasting and the meds they gave me i guess and i'm not able to train for awhile. I guess i will be able to train
does anyone know anyone that has had a stent put in there main artery and trains hard , please let me know I just turned 45 and have been training since
my teenage years and cant stop .I have cut my cals down to about 2000 aday for 7 months and stay 215 + so i hope i dont get to small if i do i guess i will change my name from pittbull2 to pussycat .

You hang in there brother. I don't know why a stint would mean an end to exercise or even weight training. Best thing is to ask your doc about what your limits are. I think you'll find out that there isn't too many. Also, if you have that much occlusion in one artery then the chances you have plaque buildup in others is possible. You may want to consider taking something for preventing clotting such as Nattokinase and also something to help minimize as much as possible arterial inflammation such as FYI, Wobenzym and Samento. I wish you all the best brother and you'll be in my prayers friend.

 

[pharmguy]

You're making the assumption that AAS was the source of causation, but cannot determine that. Additionally, I will point out that many nonjuicers have this health problem.


This is Denial. And its poor, advice. AAS in FACT change your lipid profile to include high levels of LDL (bad cholesterol). No matter how you slice it, AAS were not helping and probably are a major contributor. Yes, nonjuicers have this problem, but if you are predisiposed to it, and you add juice, its going to make it worse...

Its my opinion that the problem came from all the bulking food ate daily ,RED MEAT.

Again, dont be rediculous. Red meat is certainly a contributing factor, but the AAS are more likely to drastically change your lipid profile..... Be true to yourself. You have increased your genetic potential and will have lifelong gains from juice. Stick to slin or hGH but stay away from AAS....

 

[Big Mac Attack]

READ my thread : My gear days may be over too.

It sucks but I'm starting to accept it. At least we didnt die and have a second chance. I'm nit going to waste mine. If I ever do something again matybe in a year it wont be anything that puts on much weight. good luck bro

 

[liftsiron]

Recover my man, as you recover research testosterone treatment in men with congestive heart failure. You had a close call but that is not a reason to give up the lifestyle that you love, however you must learn to modify that lifestyle and make changes. Ant-e's and lasix will keep fluid retention down enough so as not to affect
CHF. I know a little over three years I contracted viral endocarditis and it really messed my heart up. My family was told that I would not survive 24 hours. Then I was told that I would not not last six months without an heart transplant, my injection fraction at the time was barely 15%. I started light weightlifting and walking on the threadmill a few minutes at a time. I was also put on the heart med coreg and bp med atacand. Sat. April 12th I will compete in a large bodybuilding show. My heart had enlarged to the extent that the valves were not working anyway near the way that they were meant to. Now I only have mild mitral valve insuffiencey, and no murmmer, brfore I had one hell of a murmmer with constant pcv's. Also my cardiologist has stated that my heart has repaired itself to the extent that it should last me at least another 30 years. So hang in there , if I can be of help let me know.

 

[dude]

I'm not sure if you have muscle dysmorphia or not but I just can't believe that the only thing you are worried about right now is getting smaller. There are many things in the world that are much more important than muscles and your life is one of them. We should be working out to stay healthy and that seems to be the opposite of what many people are doing. Just take it one day at a time and see what happens.

 

[buffdoc]

You hang in there brother. I don't know why a stint would mean an end to exercise or even weight training. Best thing is to ask your doc about what your limits are. I think you'll find out that there isn't too many. Also, if you have that much occlusion in one artery then the chances you have plaque buildup in others is possible. You may want to consider taking something for preventing clotting such as Nattokinase and also something to help minimize as much as possible arterial inflammation such as FYI, Wobenzym and Samento. I wish you all the best brother and you'll be in my prayers friend.

I agree w/ the above, and also w/ the idea of chelation. I've seen people w/ stents do quite well afterwards with such therapies, and continue thier exersize regimens.
Also, everyone is so quick to condemn the gear; how many men each year in their 40's manifest coronary artery disease who've never touched AAS?
I'm not necessarily suggesting he continue high dose AAS, but so many people tend to come out of the woodwork in these situations with blanket condemnations and poorly thought out advice.
We have all heard only the tip of the iceberg in terms of his history. The CHF potential maybe be strictly temporary, unless he infarcted a big portion of his ventricle, which it doesn't sound like he did. Also, we know next to nothing about coexistent diseases, other medications, superimposed coronary vasospasm, and a lot of other factors.
Let the man settle in with the new situation, and get some direction from his physicians (they kinda know the situation just a little better than us!)

 

[MUSTANG_18]

IMO you should be forgetting about EVERYTHING right now and focus on your health bro....The heart is the lifeline to your body, u gotta get healthy brutha...My father had a quad bipass at 47(or 48, one of them) so I know how serious these things can be. PLEASE, just relax and do what ever it takes to get healthy...keep us posted

M18

 

[Spectre]

It would be nice to know how well he was doing before the gear, during gear and in recovery. Yet another reason to keep a close eye on your vitals.

Example: My ldl/hdl ratio before were very good, but with AS they go completely sideways. Since I am looking at a lifelong choice, I don't do the mondo bulking and I do lots of AM cardio.

 

[Baoh]

You're making the assumption that AAS was the source of causation, but cannot determine that. Additionally, I will point out that many nonjuicers have this health problem.


This is Denial. And its poor, advice. AAS in FACT change your lipid profile to include high levels of LDL (bad cholesterol). No matter how you slice it, AAS were not helping and probably are a major contributor. Yes, nonjuicers have this problem, but if you are predisiposed to it, and you add juice, its going to make it worse...

Its my opinion that the problem came from all the bulking food ate daily ,RED MEAT.

Again, dont be rediculous. Red meat is certainly a contributing factor, but the AAS are more likely to drastically change your lipid profile..... Be true to yourself. You have increased your genetic potential and will have lifelong gains from juice. Stick to slin or hGH but stay away from AAS....

lol Looks like you're in denial here. I am aware of the changes C-17AA AAS can have upon the lipid profiles of users, however, you don't know whether or not they are the cause, as he could very well have been predisposed. You'd rather demonize than look at it in a more objective fashion.

"probably are a major contributor"

Sheer opinionated speculation without any factual evidence IN THIS USER to back it up.

 

[TheDarkSideNinja]

PHARMGUY....

Thankx for posting logical info. bro and all the others who can get past denial. I didn't say it was directly from AAS usage but only that it didn't help the situation and more than likely contributed to it!!! Predisposition sucks and just some advice before using AAS i feel people should do a health history on their family to see if anything runs in the family like heart probs., cancers, etc..