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Stunning Dunning
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Hey Bro, personally I take 3mls of GHB or 14 butendiol,,,right before I hit the sack,and I'm out like a light and feel great in the morning. Try it out, see if it works for you.
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rogerwilcox
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THE LOW DOWN ON OTC SLEEP AIDS
I was hunting for GHB for a while thinking it would be the only thing that worked for me - but couldn't find any at all. I tried some stuff called tranquili-g (advertised as a GHB substitute), but it didn't do the trick for me at all.
Finally, I started looking at OTC stuff and found some things that really worked.
First - the two major OTC sleep aids are very similar (Diphenhydramine and Doxylamine Succinate), but for me they had different effects. They are both anti-histamines, and are perported to be the same in terms of qualitative effects, but the recommended dose of the doxy worked for me whereas the diphen did not. Worst thing is, it seems that you build up some sort of resistance - the more days I'm on the less and less tired it makes me. First night knocked me on my ass.
Then you have stuff from the health food store:
Melatonin - a natural hormone related to sleep - it really does work when you find the right dose (very small amounts can work -even .5 mg), but for me I tend to feel a bit tired the next day when I take a high dose.
5-HTP - one step closer to seratonin than tryptophan, so seems to be a nice replacement for Tryp now that the FDA has outlawed it (which blows my mind - they took it off because of one single bad batch - of course cigarrettes kill hundreds of thousands of people a year and they're legal - go figure). Seratonin, of course, is a neurotransmitter that is related to sleep and sense of well-being.
ZMA - (zinc as monomethionine and aspartate - two forms of bioavailable zinc) from what I understand (and from my experience) doesn't help you sleep, but improves the quality of muscle repair that can occur in healthy sleep by raising certain hormone levels.
Valerian - naturopathic herb that is alleged to improve sleep. I haven't tried it by itself, so I'm not sure...
As I write this, I took 25mg of Doxylamine Succinate, 1.5 mg Melatonin, and 100MG 5-htp 30 minutes ago. I'm starting to get drowsy now.
Bro, I know how hard it is to get good sleep. It's my problem, too, but you just gotta do it - even if you're pumped and wanting to stay awake. Without it, you simply won't grow. I hope the above info helps. Without a prescription, you should be able to find a combination of the above that will knock you on your ass and keep you there for the night.
Peace,
R Jr.
I was hunting for GHB for a while thinking it would be the only thing that worked for me - but couldn't find any at all. I tried some stuff called tranquili-g (advertised as a GHB substitute), but it didn't do the trick for me at all.
Finally, I started looking at OTC stuff and found some things that really worked.
First - the two major OTC sleep aids are very similar (Diphenhydramine and Doxylamine Succinate), but for me they had different effects. They are both anti-histamines, and are perported to be the same in terms of qualitative effects, but the recommended dose of the doxy worked for me whereas the diphen did not. Worst thing is, it seems that you build up some sort of resistance - the more days I'm on the less and less tired it makes me. First night knocked me on my ass.
Then you have stuff from the health food store:
Melatonin - a natural hormone related to sleep - it really does work when you find the right dose (very small amounts can work -even .5 mg), but for me I tend to feel a bit tired the next day when I take a high dose.
5-HTP - one step closer to seratonin than tryptophan, so seems to be a nice replacement for Tryp now that the FDA has outlawed it (which blows my mind - they took it off because of one single bad batch - of course cigarrettes kill hundreds of thousands of people a year and they're legal - go figure). Seratonin, of course, is a neurotransmitter that is related to sleep and sense of well-being.
ZMA - (zinc as monomethionine and aspartate - two forms of bioavailable zinc) from what I understand (and from my experience) doesn't help you sleep, but improves the quality of muscle repair that can occur in healthy sleep by raising certain hormone levels.
Valerian - naturopathic herb that is alleged to improve sleep. I haven't tried it by itself, so I'm not sure...
As I write this, I took 25mg of Doxylamine Succinate, 1.5 mg Melatonin, and 100MG 5-htp 30 minutes ago. I'm starting to get drowsy now.
Bro, I know how hard it is to get good sleep. It's my problem, too, but you just gotta do it - even if you're pumped and wanting to stay awake. Without it, you simply won't grow. I hope the above info helps. Without a prescription, you should be able to find a combination of the above that will knock you on your ass and keep you there for the night.
Peace,
R Jr.
SwitchedOn
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Good post roger karma for you. Doxylamine Succinate is an active ingredient in Nyquil and IMO works alot better than Diphenhydramine, that stuff gives me nervous shakes when I take just 50mg of it. Somas are good however not nearly as habit forming as opiates or tranquilizers, and I've found I build up a resistance to any muscle relaxants- somas, cyclobenzaprine, skelaxin just like you would with narcotics. Ambien is much better for restful sleep than any benzodiazepine and you don't wake up with a groggy hangover. G works EXTREMELY well, almost too good
and you get very deep sleep. Speaking of sleep I'd better get some I've only had about 1.5 hours in the last 36 hours. I'd go with soma, G or ambien. Fuck valium unless you want sleep for 15 hours straight
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