Having children while on Avodart?

[Izzman]

I am currently thinking of switching over to avodart (for obvious reasons, one to try and grow some hair back miraculously if I even can! F*CKING MPB, Lol.) I have been on finasteride for about 1.5 years and currently want to switch over, however I am afraid of due to the potent DHT suppression (90% - 93% compared to 60% from finasteride) that in the future when I decide to have children they will suffer from disabilities of some sort. My questions:
1) Would anyone happen to have any concrete information on the issue?
2) How about personal experiences, how many of you are currently on avodart and have had/will have children?
3) Lastly, those of you on avodart, how were the first few months in terms of how your body reacted and how you felt?

Input would be greatly appreciated, Karma is a given!

 

[wootoom]

why risk it.

 

[Izzman]

Bump, does anyone have any good feedback on this?

 

[riverrock]

Bump, does anyone have any good feedback on this?

I am concerned about this issue too. Anyone with first hand or researched knowledge?

 

[shamrock11]

ok here's what I found out.
http://aolsvc.health.webmd.aol.com/... Oral.aspx?drugname=Avodart Oral&drugid=64373

I my opinion your better off staying with what you are taking now. The drug you are planning on going to is for men with enlarged prostates. The sides are mpstly on the sexual side too including impotence, decrease in libdo, gyno. and a decrease in the amount of semen released during sex. Don't think it's worth it in my opinion.

 

[showtime2004]

Here's what I dug up on this stuff. Let me know what your experiences are with this stuff as I'm considering taking it with my next cycle in a couple of weeks.

Avodart® (Dutasteride 0.5mg) is is a new generic version of the medication from GlaxoSmithKline for reducing DHT.
Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) is the main hormone linked to hairloss. Propecia® prevents one of two enzymes from being converted into DHT and blocks 2/3 of the DHT production. The new medication Avodart® blocks both enzymes in the body that convert into DHT and reduces overall DHT production by over 93%.
Avodart® comes in a 0.5mg softgel capsule that is taken by mouth once per day.
Propecia was originally approved under the name Proscar® for BPH and was only released for hair loss years later. Avodart has been approved for the treatment of Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia (BPH, or enlarged prostates) and is currently under study for approval for hair loss.
Avodart® at this dosage reduced DHT by 93.1-93.6% after 12-months on the medication. Scalp DHT was decreased 38% for Propecia®/Finasteride compared to 54% for 0.5mg Dutasteride.
Since Avodart® is currently being studied for hair loss, there are no exact figures on the percent of responders or results other than some of the sample photos released by the company from the studies. Results are expected to surpass Propecia's.
Our Avodart® is the original brand-name Avodart® 0.5mg from GlaxoSmithKline in the United States and is not a generic or international formulation.
Avodart® is not tested or approved for women and should not under any circumstances be taken by women who may become pregnant.


Safety Profile
The following side effects were noted during the large scale FDA trials of Avodart of over 5,000 men nationwide.
Actual %
(Dutasteride-Placebo)
Decreased Libio 2%
Impotence 3%
Ejaculation Disorder 2%
Sexual Function Disorder<1%
Gynecomastia < 1%

Other Issues:
• An analysis of the amount of Dutasteride found in the semen found it was far below the required levels to have any effect on a woman through sexual intercourse, so no warning will be included in the label regarding this. Studies showed that the amount of Dutasteride required in the semen to have an effect on a woman would be over a hundred times the level that was found to be present in semen. All pregnancies which occurred in patients participating in the studies produced healthy babies.
• Prostate Specific Antigen (PSA) levels were reduced 50% when taking the medication (the same as use of Propecia/Proscar/Finasteride). Men having their PSA levels checked will need to let the doctor know this and to double the results obtained by the test to evaluate the test results properly. PSA tests are routinely done to evaluate prostatic enlargement and other prostate conditions.
• Serum testosterone increased 20% on average, an amount which is not considered clinically significant.
• In studies of the effects on sperm, no significant changes were noticed in sperm morphology, sperm concentration, or sperm motility. Ejaculate volume decreased 25%, similar to Propecia, but stayed within the normal range. Two patients experienced a significant decrease in sperm count after the 52-week trial which reversed itself by the 26 week evaluation after the trial had ended.
• No toxic effects were found from the use of the medication.
• Although their studies indicated the amount passed in blood probably would not affect a pregnant female receiving a blood transfusion, it is recommended that men taking the medication not donate blood until they have stopped taking the medication for 6 months.

 

[showtime2004]

The side effect %s look pretty low to me. Let me know what the rest of ya'll think.

 

[riverrock]

But what about getting and holding erections etc?

 

[Guvna]

why risk it.

x2

 

[Izzman]

But what about getting and holding erections etc?

Bump. I noticed that when I started the finasteride initially I felt a bit "akward" down there so to speak but that subsided or atleast I think it did, could have been all in my head. I would say that with all drugs after the proper adjustment time, everything should return to normal.

 

[split endz]

izzman, I have been on avodart for almost a year now, after switching from propeica which I was on for almost 2 years. I have not noticed any increase in sides after the switch. Like you, after I started propecia, I thought my libido was down somewhat, but the symptoms were so slight and sporadic, now I'm not sure they were caused by propecia. My libido is good now (though I occasionally pop a blue bullet (V) when I really want to jack up a chick), and I noticed no change in libido after the switch to avodart. I also think my hair is doing somewhat better on duta than fina.
showtime: You mentioned taking avodart with your next cycle. In my experience & knowledge, duta/fina must be taken all the time to do its job in fighting mpb, not just while "on". It was almost 10 months before I saw any effects from propecia. Hope this helps.

 

[junk]

I am currently thinking of switching over to avodart (for obvious reasons, one to try and grow some hair back miraculously if I even can! F*CKING MPB, Lol.) I have been on finasteride for about 1.5 years and currently want to switch over, however I am afraid of due to the potent DHT suppression (90% - 93% compared to 60% from finasteride) that in the future when I decide to have children they will suffer from disabilities of some sort. My questions:
1) Would anyone happen to have any concrete information on the issue?
2) How about personal experiences, how many of you are currently on avodart and have had/will have children?
3) Lastly, those of you on avodart, how were the first few months in terms of how your body reacted and how you felt?

Input would be greatly appreciated, Karma is a given!

I'm combating hair loss since 1997, that's like 7 or 8 years straight! I must say that I've done so with great success, despite the fact being very MPB prone and despite the fact being on juice at dosages that many here doubfuly will even reach. Hair preservation and growth is not popping a capsule, but rather using what ever is available for me and whatever the cost may be. (And it's much more expensive than juicing for most part) There are several posts I made about my regimn that you can search for.

Regarding the Avodart (Dutasteride).
There is NO medical reason to think that by using Avodart, your wife may have a child with any disabilities. The fear comes from the fact that DHT is responsible for the formation of the sex organ, and by inhibiting DHT, your child may have some abnormalities. That's the reason behind the very bold remark both Propecia and Avodart have, to avoid children and women to even touch the tablets capsules (for the fear of transdermally passing). But that warning is for the WOMAN not the man. You will not inhibit the small amount of DHT your wife has by taking Avodart yourself. Or at least that's as far as I know the medical concencous. I believe that's the same as saying that you will not make your wife more muscular by injecting 3g of testosterone yourself (you will not pass bioavailable testosterone to your wife via ejaculation). As I always like to say, if you're very concerned ask a doctor (though many know shit).

I think it's well over 2 years since I started taking Avodart and there is NO noticable side-effect except for strongly stopping hairloss! Studies on both Propecia and Avodart showed a 25% decrease in ejaculation volume which was temporar only and resumed normal after weeks while still using the drug. So it's not of any importance. The only libido supression I can see is from psychologically thinking about it. Moreso, if you're on a cycle, you're already making much more DHT than a normal guy, so trust me, there's still plenty of DHT left that will be non-inhibited and circulated. So at the end of the day, you will not get that low.

One more issue when evaluating Avodart and it's your hair we're talking about, please do not make a judgement till you experience with pharmaceutical quality legitimate one. If you take UG lab or poorly indian unlicensed medication, you may not getting what you paid for. It may have ruined during the process, may have been subject to excessive heat or lab mistakes.

It is simple, if you're juicing, taking Viagra, dieting drugs, pain killers or any drug that is 'felt instantly' that's fine taking a cheap alternative, because you will know immediately if that's the real deal or some lously non potent shit. But when taking stuff like Avodart, psycho medication and other stuff that do not influence immediately and only long-term usage has any effect, you have to take the real genuine more costly alternative. Cause as I said, otherwise, you may never know... I'm saying so, cause I've seen medication such as avodart and wellbutrin that are indian generics and that I would never touch them, though I will allow myself stuff like Cialis which is felt immediately if working or not.

 

[cop]

which brand of avodart are you using junk???

 

[Tux]

Avodart is not going to cause any problems with your possible children. It won't cause any significant increase in faulty sperm, nor does it have any possible way of changing your actual genetic structure. Your semen volume may decrease slightly, but that has nothing to do with the quality of sperm. Think about it this way. Avodart does the exact same thing propecia does... it blocks conversion of hormones into DHT. The only difference is, it blocks 90+% instead of about 60%. So it works better, that's all. If propecia/proscar won't have any effect on possible children( and it won't), neither will avodart. You're approved to start trying to regrow your hair bro, good luck.

 

[junk]

which brand of avodart are you using junk???

There is only 1 brand of Avodart and it's made by GSK (GlaxoSmithKline). As far as I know, there isn't any licensed generic version of Avodart. By 'licensed', I mean one that is not underground and one that is legally available in the U.S. or Europe (India doesn't count).

 

[Schwazo]

Dutasteride is a powerful drug and still with much mystery.

Conflicting information about its half-life has been released with popular estimates including 10 days and a whole month.

The drug maker warns against blood donations prior to six months of cessation. I am no scientist but understand that Dutateride needs time much longer than 6 months to leave your system.

Fathers claiming to have fathered healthy boys speak too soon as the drug's effects may not emerge until puberty.

To be safe stop using it for YEARS! (yes, years