Going to start doing doing blast and crusing.....

[ArmaniAK47]

sorry, but this is shockingly ignorant.

It just sounds like you're trying to rationalize your own use.

"Fine" is a very subjective term.There are consequences of having elevated levels of test for years upon years, especially at a high dose. It's not your test levels as so much the ancillary effects that come with high test. The endocrine system is very complex and elevating one hormone will always create discord with many others. Not to mention it'll alter your liver values, CBC counts, and pretty much every other functioning cells of the body.

Even TRT carries risks...and for the record everybody
250 mgs is NOT a TRT dose. It's basically a small cycle dose

That's why responsible use is so often stressed. At least with cycling you are giving your body a chance to recover, assuming your cycles aren't outrageous. HPTA suppression in the short term is more likely to rebound than HPTA suppression long term.


Lets not be fooled. We damage our bodies, it's just to what extent. I fully accept the consequences of my gear use and that it may effect my lifespan by a few years or more..but to me, it's a quality of life issue. If i died at 70 using gear, than 85 without it...I'll take years of my prime being muscular than a few years in the back end of life.

of course you can do your best to mitigate the damage by doing moderate cycles, proper PCT, bloodwork etc. But to think it doesn't have a long term effect is retarded if you're running exogeneous test for years and years at a supraphysiological dose

Don't lie to yourself, and more importantly don't give out incorrect info that can have serious repurcussions just because of your own rationalization.

I think you have the wrong idea about things..

You make the "adverse effects" of us using these hormones way over rated.. Most of us know the hormones effected and generally either have an ancillary ready or adjust our usage accordingly.

BY THE WAY, mister "steroids are so bad but I use them anyways" 250mgs IS a TRT dose.. In fact, I am on a much greater amount.. and my endocrinologist is VERY good.

I think blasting and cruising is ideal, but hey, I probably haven't learned much in 6 years of research.. right?

It's much better to take deca and dbol for the standard 10 weeks followed by 6 weeks of clomid, right? that's the safe way.

Give me a break..

How about NO CRASH or hormone swing from just cruising instead of PCT? No harsh ancillary drugs.. no bullshit.

Sounds safe and smooth to me..

I also think gradual gains (again, without harsh off cycles) would be healthier on our system.. as opposed to huge gains, then huge losses.

 

[Para_Shoot]

Maybe it's a 3 step process. Blast, cruise, and when you all done blasting and cruising for a couple years to try to win shows, then TRT at 100mg a wk, because thats what TRT IS, 100mg a week! Not 250.

 

[caribeman]

I have a friend who is on 200mg prescribed as trt by his endo and tested every 3 months. There is no "specific amount" when it comes to hrt/trt different docs give different amounts. They do not have a specified amount or guide.

For me the best thing to do is get a blood test to see where I stand and the effect the dosage has on me. You can decide from there although at the end it is the user's choice to either cruise (50, 100 or even 250) or take a break.

 

[Para_Shoot]

I have a friend who is on 200mg prescribed as trt by his endo and tested every 3 months. There is no "specific amount" when it comes to hrt/trt different docs give different amounts. They do not have a specified amount or guide.

For me the best thing to do is get a blood test to see where I stand and the effect the dosage has on me. You can decide from there although at the end it is the user's choice to either cruise (50, 100 or even 250) or take a break.

They do (ethical doctors) have a "guide" when prescribing test for TRT. The guide is the 250-900ng/dl range, what ever it takes to get in that range, and I can tell you that 200mg a week will put you at or above 1500.

 

[HarryHarry]

bro you can compete just fine off two or 3 heavy 3 month cycles a year.quote]

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9months on 3 months off
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Thats just stupid. You might aswell be blasting and crusing right there. Hope it was worded wrong as you will see my point. Anyways...

Blasting and Cruisng Vs Steady On and Off Cycling. Basicaly the same argument of steroids vs no steroids but with a different topic name.

I struggled to be accepted for years with ASS as it was considerd to be so damaging to my health. I make a point in being smart and safe in that i dont abuse these powerful compounds.

If your blasting and crusing you are abusing them IMO. You can flame me all you like but its my opinion and thats what the OP has asked for.

Everyone to their own tho right ?

Harry

 

[downunder hunter]

bro you can compete just fine off two or 3 heavy 3 month cycles a year. you're far from being an IFBB pro or even and NPC competitor. you'll likely be competing in local shows, like the vast majority of bodybuilders. i just don't see the point of fucking with your body so much for some that's essentially a glorified hobby. I LOVE working out, but i'd never sacrifice my own personal long term health so such a great extent for it. but that's ME, just giving you my two cents on it. i just think it shows a mental addiction that you're willing to willfully inflict such damage upon yourself. and thinking that it doesn;t cause damage is you being blind. i mean i'll admit that the results ARE addicting, i'm not gunna lie. but i've got limits, you do as you please. keep us posted on how things go, if you're going to blast and cruise i assume you'll be checking blood levels etc. i'd love to see these. thanks. and post amounts mean shit. btw. i've been observing for years.

Maybe nobody cares about your opinion, I know I dont and your not even directing it at me. Answer the OP's question or fuck off. If you want to debate steroid use start your own thread

 

[moya]

They do (ethical doctors) have a "guide" when prescribing test for TRT. The guide is the 250-900ng/dl range, what ever it takes to get in that range, and I can tell you that 200mg a week will put you at or above 1500.

this...

 

[SouthernLord]

Maybe nobody cares about your opinion, I know I dont and your not even directing it at me. Answer the OP's question or fuck off. If you want to debate steroid use start your own thread

How about I ban you and you can go fuck off.

We don't play this shit here. You need to leave your attitude at the door.

If I see this shit again you're gone.

 

[stevesmi]

good luck bro. keep us updated.

 

[downunder hunter]

How about I ban you and you can go fuck off.

We don't play this shit here. You need to leave your attitude at the door.

If I see this shit again you're gone.