Going to start doing doing blast and crusing.....

[marcu_s]

anyone wanna sharen about the benefits and the bad?
If u have any.

Coming off would just make me take one step back, and im planning to start compete so, i figured out blast n cruises would be the way to goo
Have done reaserach, and it seems like 150-250mg/week is a good crusing dose.

But about the anti and hcg i havent quite got it, some do some hcg from time to time and some dont, same whit the adex.

How do u do yours?

 

[bblazer]

Only you can make this decision. But here is one thing to REALLY keep in mind. You have a high probability to be on HRT for the rest of your life.

I'm walking proof. Every week is another weekly injection for the rest of my life. If I am totally honest, I hate it. I hate being tied to it like I'm sure a diabetic hates being tied to their insulin.

Like I said, just something to think about.

B-

 

[marcu_s]

Thanks for the response guys.
It is a BIG decision, i know.
And i can say that i wouldnt do it if i haven already decided to compete and train for the rest of my life.
By competing i dont mean 3-4 times, but as long as my body alowe it, and that will hopefully be for 30-35years.

The only thing ive heard can be a small problem is getting children, but story after story says that hcg helps, and its nothing to worry about so, and since the pros can get them, i dont think it will be any prob.

Again, thanks guys.

 

[lartinos]

Coming on and off post cycle and having those issues suck and I think if you have a done a bunch of cycles and you are sick of that feeling you should blast and cruise. I think many people can still come off after being on long periods, but most do not want to anyway.
Age and what you take probably have taken has a lot to do with that. Woman don't seem to have that much trouble coming off of birth control for long periods of time.

 

[joshuaua]

been blasting and crusing for 6 months, done 2 cruises and on my second blast

first your cruise should be 250mg test weekly, anything less and ur probably off going natural

and if your using 150mg to maintain ur muscle size your probably not big enough to start blasting and cruising yet if 150mg you can get away with

i dont bother with HCG, its just an expensive additive, if your blasting and crusing you shouldnt be planning to come off anytime soon so IMO HCG is just an expensive add for a PCT A LONG WAY AWAY

always use an A.I both on cruise and cycle, i personaly use letro coz its more effective on a mg basis since ur going to be using an A.I for along time now, but if you choose adex i find .25mg EOD on a cruise did the trick for me, however is cruise on 300mg test cyp weekly

blasts of 8 weeks work great, anything longer and you start to notice the gains taper off fast

unlike normal cycles gains in blasts start earlier since ur blood levels of the gear build up fast

muscle loss is minimal on cruises if you keep a high calorie diet, and ur cruise dose appropraite to ur size

blasts i personaly wouldnt go over a gram of gear unless ur wanting to be one BIG MOTHER FUKER, since gains u make on blasts are kept so there no rebound effect so there isnt a need to use asmuch gear compared to a conventional cycle IMO

and last fo all welcome to the club, its a great lifestyle

i think that this type of cycling is insane. why would you ever want to completely fuck up your hormones for the rest of your life? you WILL be on HRT for the rest of yourlife if you decide to do this for a long ass time. just a dumb idea...usually means you're so addicted to steroids that you're willing to fucking your internal hormones and production up for good. just do 2 or 3 cycles a year and save yourself alot of fucking horrible hassle. you WILL regret this when you're old.

 

[bblazer]

Just wondering if you have any type of pro status yet?

If not, I would at least wait until you had that before you started thinking like you are right now.

Life can throw weird things at you. I wanted to be a pilot and trained my ass off for years to get there. Life happened, I never got to the majors, and now I'm a school teacher.

See my point?

B-

 

[needtogetaas]

some one post a link to my blast and cruse thread damn it

 

[joe13]

some one post a link to my blast and cruse thread damn it

where's that link? i cant find it................

 

[calveless wonder]

wow 54 posts and you seem to be very knowledgable already

first of all if you do have a brain u would be aware blasting and cruising is nessecary in order to compete, you dont seriously think guys who compete with that level of muscular development actually come off AAS? imagine the muscle loss

second is there is no proof AAS fuks up your hormones for the rest of ur life, that is purely something that has arised from some peoples experiences, there are many people that have used AAS for years and come off gear without issues, so ur assumption 'your fuking up your hormones' is purely that, AN ASSUMPTION becoz there is no evidence


and lastly if you seem to think cycling 2-3 times a year is safe and wont fuk up your hormones like blasting and cruising then that again is another dumb assumption since you are continualy causing HUGE hormone fluctuations doing this also,

there are some guys who cycle with 1-2 grams of gear and do PCT, while other will cruise with 300mg and blast with 600-800mg weekly, are you going to argue cycling is safer in this case?

you need to realise everyone has goals, and not everyone can reach there goal cycling 2-3 times a year

thank you for your opinion, but that is all it is, an opinion

sorry, but this is shockingly ignorant.

It just sounds like you're trying to rationalize your own use.

"Fine" is a very subjective term.There are consequences of having elevated levels of test for years upon years, especially at a high dose. It's not your test levels as so much the ancillary effects that come with high test. The endocrine system is very complex and elevating one hormone will always create discord with many others. Not to mention it'll alter your liver values, CBC counts, and pretty much every other functioning cells of the body.

Even TRT carries risks...and for the record everybody
250 mgs is NOT a TRT dose. It's basically a small cycle dose

That's why responsible use is so often stressed. At least with cycling you are giving your body a chance to recover, assuming your cycles aren't outrageous. HPTA suppression in the short term is more likely to rebound than HPTA suppression long term.


Lets not be fooled. We damage our bodies, it's just to what extent. I fully accept the consequences of my gear use and that it may effect my lifespan by a few years or more..but to me, it's a quality of life issue. If i died at 70 using gear, than 85 without it...I'll take years of my prime being muscular than a few years in the back end of life.

of course you can do your best to mitigate the damage by doing moderate cycles, proper PCT, bloodwork etc. But to think it doesn't have a long term effect is retarded if you're running exogeneous test for years and years at a supraphysiological dose

Don't lie to yourself, and more importantly don't give out incorrect info that can have serious repurcussions just because of your own rationalization.

 

[joshuaua]

bro you can compete just fine off two or 3 heavy 3 month cycles a year. you're far from being an IFBB pro or even and NPC competitor. you'll likely be competing in local shows, like the vast majority of bodybuilders. i just don't see the point of fucking with your body so much for some that's essentially a glorified hobby. I LOVE working out, but i'd never sacrifice my own personal long term health so such a great extent for it. but that's ME, just giving you my two cents on it. i just think it shows a mental addiction that you're willing to willfully inflict such damage upon yourself. and thinking that it doesn;t cause damage is you being blind. i mean i'll admit that the results ARE addicting, i'm not gunna lie. but i've got limits, you do as you please. keep us posted on how things go, if you're going to blast and cruise i assume you'll be checking blood levels etc. i'd love to see these. thanks. and post amounts mean shit. btw. i've been observing for years.

 

[ArmaniAK47]

sorry, but this is shockingly ignorant.

It just sounds like you're trying to rationalize your own use.

"Fine" is a very subjective term.There are consequences of having elevated levels of test for years upon years, especially at a high dose. It's not your test levels as so much the ancillary effects that come with high test. The endocrine system is very complex and elevating one hormone will always create discord with many others. Not to mention it'll alter your liver values, CBC counts, and pretty much every other functioning cells of the body.

Even TRT carries risks...and for the record everybody
250 mgs is NOT a TRT dose. It's basically a small cycle dose

That's why responsible use is so often stressed. At least with cycling you are giving your body a chance to recover, assuming your cycles aren't outrageous. HPTA suppression in the short term is more likely to rebound than HPTA suppression long term.


Lets not be fooled. We damage our bodies, it's just to what extent. I fully accept the consequences of my gear use and that it may effect my lifespan by a few years or more..but to me, it's a quality of life issue. If i died at 70 using gear, than 85 without it...I'll take years of my prime being muscular than a few years in the back end of life.

of course you can do your best to mitigate the damage by doing moderate cycles, proper PCT, bloodwork etc. But to think it doesn't have a long term effect is retarded if you're running exogeneous test for years and years at a supraphysiological dose

Don't lie to yourself, and more importantly don't give out incorrect info that can have serious repurcussions just because of your own rationalization.

I think you have the wrong idea about things..

You make the "adverse effects" of us using these hormones way over rated.. Most of us know the hormones effected and generally either have an ancillary ready or adjust our usage accordingly.

BY THE WAY, mister "steroids are so bad but I use them anyways" 250mgs IS a TRT dose.. In fact, I am on a much greater amount.. and my endocrinologist is VERY good.

I think blasting and cruising is ideal, but hey, I probably haven't learned much in 6 years of research.. right?

It's much better to take deca and dbol for the standard 10 weeks followed by 6 weeks of clomid, right? that's the safe way.

Give me a break..

How about NO CRASH or hormone swing from just cruising instead of PCT? No harsh ancillary drugs.. no bullshit.

Sounds safe and smooth to me..

I also think gradual gains (again, without harsh off cycles) would be healthier on our system.. as opposed to huge gains, then huge losses.

 

[Para_Shoot]

Maybe it's a 3 step process. Blast, cruise, and when you all done blasting and cruising for a couple years to try to win shows, then TRT at 100mg a wk, because thats what TRT IS, 100mg a week! Not 250.

 

[caribeman]

I have a friend who is on 200mg prescribed as trt by his endo and tested every 3 months. There is no "specific amount" when it comes to hrt/trt different docs give different amounts. They do not have a specified amount or guide.

For me the best thing to do is get a blood test to see where I stand and the effect the dosage has on me. You can decide from there although at the end it is the user's choice to either cruise (50, 100 or even 250) or take a break.

 

[Para_Shoot]

I have a friend who is on 200mg prescribed as trt by his endo and tested every 3 months. There is no "specific amount" when it comes to hrt/trt different docs give different amounts. They do not have a specified amount or guide.

For me the best thing to do is get a blood test to see where I stand and the effect the dosage has on me. You can decide from there although at the end it is the user's choice to either cruise (50, 100 or even 250) or take a break.

They do (ethical doctors) have a "guide" when prescribing test for TRT. The guide is the 250-900ng/dl range, what ever it takes to get in that range, and I can tell you that 200mg a week will put you at or above 1500.

 

[HarryHarry]

bro you can compete just fine off two or 3 heavy 3 month cycles a year.quote]

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9months on 3 months off
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Thats just stupid. You might aswell be blasting and crusing right there. Hope it was worded wrong as you will see my point. Anyways...

Blasting and Cruisng Vs Steady On and Off Cycling. Basicaly the same argument of steroids vs no steroids but with a different topic name.

I struggled to be accepted for years with ASS as it was considerd to be so damaging to my health. I make a point in being smart and safe in that i dont abuse these powerful compounds.

If your blasting and crusing you are abusing them IMO. You can flame me all you like but its my opinion and thats what the OP has asked for.

Everyone to their own tho right ?

Harry

 

[downunder hunter]

bro you can compete just fine off two or 3 heavy 3 month cycles a year. you're far from being an IFBB pro or even and NPC competitor. you'll likely be competing in local shows, like the vast majority of bodybuilders. i just don't see the point of fucking with your body so much for some that's essentially a glorified hobby. I LOVE working out, but i'd never sacrifice my own personal long term health so such a great extent for it. but that's ME, just giving you my two cents on it. i just think it shows a mental addiction that you're willing to willfully inflict such damage upon yourself. and thinking that it doesn;t cause damage is you being blind. i mean i'll admit that the results ARE addicting, i'm not gunna lie. but i've got limits, you do as you please. keep us posted on how things go, if you're going to blast and cruise i assume you'll be checking blood levels etc. i'd love to see these. thanks. and post amounts mean shit. btw. i've been observing for years.

Maybe nobody cares about your opinion, I know I dont and your not even directing it at me. Answer the OP's question or fuck off. If you want to debate steroid use start your own thread

 

[moya]

They do (ethical doctors) have a "guide" when prescribing test for TRT. The guide is the 250-900ng/dl range, what ever it takes to get in that range, and I can tell you that 200mg a week will put you at or above 1500.

this...

 

[SouthernLord]

Maybe nobody cares about your opinion, I know I dont and your not even directing it at me. Answer the OP's question or fuck off. If you want to debate steroid use start your own thread

How about I ban you and you can go fuck off.

We don't play this shit here. You need to leave your attitude at the door.

If I see this shit again you're gone.

 

[stevesmi]

good luck bro. keep us updated.

 

[downunder hunter]

How about I ban you and you can go fuck off.

We don't play this shit here. You need to leave your attitude at the door.

If I see this shit again you're gone.

 

[Para_Shoot]

it can vary from person to person, size will make a difference to how much T you need for HRT, for example our good bro layinback is on 400mg/week HRT and his levels are 1500

thats double the 200 that was atated earlier to put you at or over 1500ng/dl

each person must find the dose that works for them

Yes, you are probably right but the guy doing 400mg a weeks levels are at 1500, then maybe 150~175mg a week would put him in the TRT range.

 

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