GHB BUST: Dozens held in date-rape drug probe

[SOLID]

scary I was just getting ready to order threw solvent ******. Are the days of gbl over too? INSOMNIA

 

[nekrawulf]

I dont think you guys truly understand how much power the Federal Analouge Act truly give the government. And i dont think you guys honestly take it seriously. It is very serious, and its very real.

I found some info on it at www.erowid.org like i promised an now im pasting it here.

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Appendix A
Controlled Substance Analogue Enforcement Act of 1986
P.L. 99-570. Subtitle E, Title I.


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SEC. 1202. TREATMENT OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE ANALOGUES

Part B of the Controlled Substances Act is amended by adding at the end of the following new section:

"TREATMENT OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE ANALOGUES"
"SEC 203. A controlled substance analogue shall, to the extent intended for human consumption, be treated, for the purposes of this title [Title I; "Enforcement"] and title III ["Interdiction"] as a controlled substance in schedule I."

SEC 1203. DEFINITION.

Section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802) is amended by adding at the end thereof the following:
"(32)(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B), the term `controlled substance analogue' means a substance ---

"(i) the chemical structure of which is substantially similar to the chemical structure of a controlled substance in schedule I or II;
"(ii) which has a stimulant, depressant, or hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous system that is substantially similar to or greater than the stimulent, [sic] depressant, or hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous system of a controlled substance in schedule I or II;
"(iii) with respect to a particular person, which such person represents or intends to have a stimulant, depressant, or hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous system that is substantially similar to or greater than the stimulant, depressant, or hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous system of a controlled substance in schedule I or II.

"(B) Such term does not include ---

"(i) a controlled substance;
"(ii) any substance for which there is an approved new drug application;
"(iii) with respect to a particular person any substance, if an exemption is in effect for investigational use, for that person, under section 505 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C. 355) to the extent conduct with respect to such substance is pursuant to such exemption; or
"(iv) any substance to the extent not intended for human consumption before such an exemption takes effect with respect to that substance.".

SEC. 1204. CLERICAL AMENDMENT.

The table of contents of the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Sct of 1970 is amended by inserting after the item relating to section 202 the following new item: "Sec. 203. Treatment of controlled substance analogues.".



Now what this says in a nutshell...regardless of the substance...if they believe you are going to ingest or sell for the intent of ingestion any chemical that is slightly related to a Schedule 1 substance...they will arrest you and charge you with possesion and/or intent to distribute. This is the same law that if you sell asprin as extacy in clubs...they will charge you for distribution of extacy. Shady shit this law is.

 

[tordön]

This really sucks. I had trouble getting 1,4 awhile back off the web and contemplated a g kit. Its so so SO FUCKING sad they are tagging these helpful substances to "date rape" all over the media. I really feel for the dudes getting chomped. And with that crap the media is spouting its making regular joes life beyond embarrassing.
Nothing in excess is good for anyone but a little G here and there was a far superior reset button than alcohol and had benefits over weed too. I would guess the $$ is going to go up but new suppliers are right around the corner. That's the good thing about supply and demand.

 

[Judo Tom]

i dont want to mention anything at all specific but....

my friend recently ordered a lot of 1,4 from a site and it has not arrived..

They have a great shipping method.. idont want to give any details at all but it has worked for him w/ no problems..

he normally recieves his package in a week after placing an order... its been about 2 weeks or so.. he saw on the news whats going on and is nervous...

if anyone knows some specifics could you please email me.. or could i email a mod maybe for some more details ...

i told him to clean out his place and not sign for anything..

be safe everyone....

 

[BigD50]

I'm not trying to piss anyone off here, but I would like to give an opinion. I've never tried GHB, but I have seen some people at a club I used to work at G'ed out before and it sucked. I'm sure it can be used by people in a good fashion for certain purposes. But it is also a party drug and from what I know it's clear and tasteless/odorless?. It can be very dangerous and I'm sure it's not used as a date rape drug as much as alcohol, but I'm sure it does happen.

I don't usually feel too sorry for people who get caught with drugs that can get you high and can be dangerous if not used properly. Then when some of the guys who do get busted they have a lot of other things on them like weed, X, K, Coke, etc. I don't really feel sorry for them. Should I? I'm mean I don't like it when the government intrudes in my life, but I don't want this to turn in to a third world country either. I need these guys living next door to me and my family. Of course the media will blow it out of porportion and law enfeorcment will play to it.

Basically what I'm saying is if you want to do things like AS just be smart and safe about it. If you want to do mind/mood altering drugs that are illegal or you want to deal just except the consequences. Bottom Line!!!

 

[nekrawulf]

I'm not trying to piss anyone off here, but I would like to give an opinion. I've never tried GHB, but I have seen some people at a club I used to work at G'ed out before and it sucked. I'm sure it can be used by people in a good fashion for certain purposes. But it is also a party drug and from what I know it's clear and tasteless/odorless?. It can be very dangerous and I'm sure it's not used as a date rape drug as much as alcohol, but I'm sure it does happen.

I don't usually feel too sorry for people who get caught with drugs that can get you high and can be dangerous if not used properly. Then when some of the guys who do get busted they have a lot of other things on them like weed, X, K, Coke, etc. I don't really feel sorry for them. Should I? I'm mean I don't like it when the government intrudes in my life, but I don't want this to turn in to a third world country either. I need these guys living next door to me and my family. Of course the media will blow it out of porportion and law enfeorcment will play to it.

Basically what I'm saying is if you want to do things like AS just be smart and safe about it. If you want to do mind/mood altering drugs that are illegal or you want to deal just except the consequences. Bottom Line!!!

Let me just say that this is the most insanely hypocritical post I have ever read in my life. Who are you to place anabolic steriods on a pedestal above all other drugs...I guess you an expert who can attest why AS should be legal and all other mind/mood altering drugs should remain illegal...nevermind that there has been research showing the awsome capabilities of various enthogens and psycadelics for use in phsycological thereapy.

And a little FYI any chemical(drug) can be dangerous when used inproperly. Oh and you dont feel sorry for the people who keep dangerous chemicals(drugs) in their house?? Well I guess when your 11 year old son dies from huffing the gasoline you keep for your lawnmower...I wont feel sorry for you, because you kept a dangerous chemical in you house that can be used to alter a mood and get high.

 

[Machiavellian Muscle]

CANADIAN ARRESTS

Canadian authorities also arrested three people in the Quebec City, including Daniel Pelchat, who operated several Web sites that advertised GHB kits and distributed them through the U.S. Postal Service. The Canadian ring was exporting the product to about 20 countries.

Officials seized $1 million in assets and 3,300 gallons of GBL and BD. The drugs seized equate to more than 25 million doses, which sell for $10 per dose on the street.

"Today's announcement is a dose of harsh reality for drug traffickers who seek to exploit the vast markets and anonymity of cyberspace," said Attorney General John Ashcroft ( news - web sites).

DEA officials said the major arrests included a mother and son team who sold the drug from Festus, Missouri. They had marketed the drug as Miracle Cleaning products since 1999 and hired mentally handicapped workers to mix the product.

Kevin and Ronald Brown of Sparta, Tennessee, marketed the drug on their Blue Raine Web site that sold ink jet supplies. They grossed more than $1 million, officials said. At least one person who bought the drug from them had died, they said.

Guys this goes a hell of a lot deeper than I originally thought. I did not realize that Blueraine would be part of this. This company has been down for over a year. I bet the web is much more entangled than we believe.

 

[1Mistake]

I dont think you guys truly understand how much power the Federal Analouge Act truly give the government. And i dont think you guys honestly take it seriously. It is very serious, and its very real.

I found some info on it at www.erowid.org like i promised an now im pasting it here.

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Appendix A
Controlled Substance Analogue Enforcement Act of 1986
P.L. 99-570. Subtitle E, Title I.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

SEC. 1202. TREATMENT OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE ANALOGUES

Part B of the Controlled Substances Act is amended by adding at the end of the following new section:

"TREATMENT OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE ANALOGUES"
"SEC 203. A controlled substance analogue shall, to the extent intended for human consumption, be treated, for the purposes of this title [Title I; "Enforcement"] and title III ["Interdiction"] as a controlled substance in schedule I."

SEC 1203. DEFINITION.

Section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802) is amended by adding at the end thereof the following:
"(32)(A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B), the term `controlled substance analogue' means a substance ---

"(i) the chemical structure of which is substantially similar to the chemical structure of a controlled substance in schedule I or II;
"(ii) which has a stimulant, depressant, or hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous system that is substantially similar to or greater than the stimulent, [sic] depressant, or hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous system of a controlled substance in schedule I or II;
"(iii) with respect to a particular person, which such person represents or intends to have a stimulant, depressant, or hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous system that is substantially similar to or greater than the stimulant, depressant, or hallucinogenic effect on the central nervous system of a controlled substance in schedule I or II.

"(B) Such term does not include ---

"(i) a controlled substance;
"(ii) any substance for which there is an approved new drug application;
"(iii) with respect to a particular person any substance, if an exemption is in effect for investigational use, for that person, under section 505 of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (21 U.S.C. 355) to the extent conduct with respect to such substance is pursuant to such exemption; or
"(iv) any substance to the extent not intended for human consumption before such an exemption takes effect with respect to that substance.".

SEC. 1204. CLERICAL AMENDMENT.

The table of contents of the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Sct of 1970 is amended by inserting after the item relating to section 202 the following new item: "Sec. 203. Treatment of controlled substance analogues.".



Now what this says in a nutshell...regardless of the substance...if they believe you are going to ingest or sell for the intent of ingestion any chemical that is slightly related to a Schedule 1 substance...they will arrest you and charge you with possesion and/or intent to distribute. This is the same law that if you sell asprin as extacy in clubs...they will charge you for distribution of extacy. Shady shit this law is.

CORRECT!!! When I say that I helped market and develop En-Liven-I'm not joking. The guy that owned the company had his phone tapped for months..its serious to get caught with 1,4 and GBL as it is to have GHB

J

 

[Digger Dan]

He has been arraigned. He is being charged with "Possession with Intent to Distribute".

They seized 780ml GBL & 2lbs NaOH! Let the truth be told. All the other stuff I mentioned was not in his possession at the time he & his house was searched. But get this shit...

About three weeks ago he asked me if I knew where to get AS. I said I might. I cut out a list I had and pasted it into an email and sent it to him. I did NOT send/forward him the actual list. Just cut and pasted it. Anyway my cousin had this list printed out and the DEA found it. So guess who they want now...ME!!! They asked, "Who is this Digger Dan?" And guess who told them...YUP!! My cousin! So I am expecting a visit any day now. I have nothing to worry about, but I really don't want my computer seized. Fuck I have 20 gig of music on that thing. And I track all my finances on it. Shit Shit Shit. Oh well.

Thanks for all the support!

 

[Fukkenshredded]

I warned you guys about this two months ago...check out the thread "GHB...WATCH OUT". If I recall, I was flamed a bit for it. I HATE that we get busted for what we choose to do to our OWN BODIES. I wish everyone the best here...stay smart, folks.