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fatburner/ECA Stack poll

Favorite ECA stack/Fatburner from the following options

  • Xenadrine

    Votes: 28 34.6%
  • Dymetadrine Extreme

    Votes: 14 17.3%
  • Stacker2

    Votes: 10 12.3%
  • Yellow Jackets

    Votes: 7 8.6%
  • Hydroxycut

    Votes: 22 27.2%

  • Total voters
    81
I'm in the process of stopping smoking so I've used it for 6 months now. 2-3 month cycles works. Here is the study for you:

Effect of chewing gum containing nicotine and caffeine on energy expenditure and substrate utilization in men.

Jessen AB, Toubro S, Astrup A.

Department of Human Nutrition, Centre for Advanced Food Studies, The Royal Veterinary and Agricultural University, Frederiksberg, Denmark.

BACKGROUND: Nicotine replacement therapy limits weight gain after smoking cessation. This finding is partly attributable to the thermogenic effect of nicotine, which may be enhanced by caffeine. OBJECTIVE: We assessed the acute thermogenic effects of chewing gum containing different doses of nicotine and caffeine. DESIGN: This randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, crossover study included 12 healthy, normal-weight men (aged 18-45 y). Energy expenditure was measured with indirect calorimetry before and 2.5 h after subjects chewed each of 7 different types of gum containing the following doses of nicotine/caffeine: 0/0, 1/0, 2/0, 1/50, 2/50, 1/100, and 2/100 mg/mg. RESULTS: The thermogenic responses (increases over the response to placebo) were 3.7%, 4.9%, 7.9%, 6.3%, 8.5%, and 9.8%, respectively, for the gums containing 1/0, 2/0, 1/50, 2/50, 1/100, and 2/100 mg nicotine/mg caffeine (P < 0.05 for all). Adding caffeine to 1 and 2 mg nicotine significantly enhanced the thermogenic response, but changing the caffeine dose (from 50 to 100 mg) did not change the thermogenic effect. None of the combinations changed the respiratory quotient compared with placebo, which indicates that glucose and fat oxidation rates were increased to a similar extent. Side effects occurred only with 2 mg nicotine. CONCLUSIONS: One milligram of nicotine has a pronounced thermogenic effect, which can be increased by approximately 100% by adding 100 mg caffeine. Increasing the nicotine dose to 2 mg does not increase the thermogenic effect but produces side effects in most subjects. Caffeine may be useful in preventing weight gain after smoking cessation if its thermogenic effect can be used to enhance nicotine's effect on long-term energy balance.

Publication Types:
Clinical Trial
Randomized Controlled Trial

PMID: 12791621 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

This in addition to positive effects on leptin and dopamine and this stacks VERY well with AF's levorex as nicotine up-regulates vanilloid receptors which evodamine is an agonist of.
 
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So do you use caffine tabs and chew a gum at the saem time or what?
 
I usually will take 200mg Caffeine in a pill then begin the chewing the gum. Levels in nic peak after 30 minutes so the caffeine should be exerting effects by the time the blood levels reach a peak.
 
Hydroxycut Hardcore, RedLine, and Lipo 6 are my fav's. When VPX made Clenbuteral that was the best stuff with ephedra.
 
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