Dont touch dnp

[ecy monster]

well i said i wouldnt reply but i guess people want more info to be confinced or understand wats happened to me
age 20, bf% starting 12-14% semms to change depending on how much fluid i drank, weight 93.4 kilograms
lifts:
bench press 100 kilos, 6 reps
stiff leg deadlift 150 kilos, 12 reps
45 degree leg press: 420 kilograms, 6 reps
barbell shoulder press 80 kilograms, 12 reps
hope that gives an idea
cardio was none
weight traing was very light, not carried out to failure, lifted 80% of wat i usually do
ive been training since 16 but started hard at about 17
diet consisted of 250 grams carbs, protein 250 grams, fat came naturally didnt count e.g fat found in rice, tuna, chiken breat, skim milk etc
most my carbs came within my first 3 meals, breakfast, post workout, lunch
yes i took t3 about 30mg a day in the morning
dnp was powder, , taken 12 hours apart
over my 6 days this is how it was dosed
day 1 200mg, 1 in morning, 1 12 hours later
day 2 300mg 2 morning, 1 12 hours later
day 3 400mg 2 morning, 2 12 hours later
day 4 400mg 2 morning, 2 12 hours later
days 5 500mg 3 morning, 2 12 hours later
days 6 same
day 7 discontinued
also its not summer in my country its winter, temp outside below 15 degrees everyday
i am currently a student studying for my exams at univerity doing a double degree bachelor of buisness and bachelor of commerce in economics and accoutning
my day does not consist of heavy activity, most of it i sit on my arse n study
also i drank huge amounts of water daily
supplements was 2 multivitams daily
my end results after 6 days weight 83.6 kilograms, bf%7-8, straight after my last dose of DNP
my results 2dai, 2 days after discontinueing, weight 81.9 kilograms and my diet has returned to 3400 calories, 30% protein, 50% good carbs, 20% fat
n im not exaggerating they are my stats at the moment, all tests were carried out at my gym, and even the guy who tested me couldnt believe his eyes
also all my friends and girlfriend have noticed, i went n saw my oldies tonight for dinner n they freaked themselves n asked wat i was on
any more questions?

 

[ecy monster]

also to the comment about SAFE USE OF DNP
i think thats a joke
thats like saying safe use of eating washing powder
instead of eating a cupfull coz it will kill u faster, have a quarter of a cup
honestly i know people are going to use the stuff but i hope my post prevents atleast sumone who considers it
ALSO i saw my specialist 2dai about my nose cancer, YES i do have a small cancerous tumor, BUT he says it is removal safely, and if treated fast will not spread\
also i spoke to him about DNP again n he told me that ALL phenol group compunds have been proven to be cancerous except DNP n a few others because because almost all subjects DIED before they developed cancer
he also spoke to me about similar compounds such as DNP n listed out their effects and cancerous effects, he also pointed out that they were very closely related to DNP, n for anyone to think that because DNP isnt exactly like them, it will not cause cancer or problems, is just stupid
i think its true as stated in this forum, people read wat they want to read wen theyve made up der mind and beliefs, NO MATTER WAT U TELL THEM, der still going to do or think wat they beleieve anyways, (as i did unfortunatly)
well i guess for those like me u will learn from ur mistakes

 

[jacshelb]

also to the comment about SAFE USE OF DNP
i think thats a joke
thats like saying safe use of eating washing powder
instead of eating a cupfull coz it will kill u faster, have a quarter of a cup

How would you know this? You took enough to make you lose 25 lbs in 6 days!! That's not healthy no matter how you get there. I'm not bashing you or trying to be a dick. I'm just saying that people really need to re-think how they are going to approach DNP (IF they are going to use it) and your experiences and others should be a warning. I agree that it's dangerous. But, obviously I don't agree that there is no safe dose. Nothing is safe if abused/over-used/mis-used.

If someone can show me a study of a person doing 50-100 mg per day for a few weeks- or even an experience of it- and getting some kind of cancer or illness I'd be totally convinced. But, all I see all over the internet is people doing 500-1000 mg per day and talking about how sick it made them! Well, that's a problem. But, just because we drove into a ditch on the right hand side of the road doesn't mean we should immediately make a sharp left turn and keep going. Let's keep our eyes open and be objective, learn all we can, and then make a decision. That's all I'm saying.

Ecymonster, I really do appreciate you giving out all the info and experience. I'm not knocking your standpoint, just trying to expand upon it a bit. I understand where you are coming from and don't blame you a bit! If I'd gone down that road I'd be in the same place. I appreciate you sharing your experience so I don't have to go there. Seriously.

 

[ecy monster]

understanable about wat u think
but again almost anywhere u read dosages are said to be between 200 to 500mg daily wifout any adverse side effects, most recommend 400mg is safe
ND IM NOT JUS SAYING DIS I READ ALOT and most say up to 500 can be tolerated comefortably wif out side effects
maybe this dosage idea needs to be re evaluated

 

[alumbrado]

honestly, it would have been better if you write better.. im sorry for what happened to you bro.. but its kinda hard to comprehend your thoughts with the way you write.. still, i hope you'll get better in the end.

 

[timtim]

understanable about wat u think
but again almost anywhere u read dosages are said to be between 200 to 500mg daily wifout any adverse side effects, most recommend 400mg is safe
ND IM NOT JUS SAYING DIS I READ ALOT and most say up to 500 can be tolerated comefortably wif out side effects
maybe this dosage idea needs to be re evaluated

im not sure where you were researching, but i rarely hear people say 500mg is the normal dosage with no sides. adversely, i have heard 100 to 200 can be tolerable BUT ITS FUCKING POISON so who cares. diet smarter, harder, and longer.

 

[timtim]

honestly, it would have been better if you write better.. im sorry for what happened to you bro.. but its kinda hard to comprehend your thoughts with the way you write.. still, i hope you'll get better in the end.

you ever think english maybe his 2nd or even 3rd language? his thoughts were conveyed clear enough for an adult to understand.

 

[paridhm]

Taking DNP without proper precautions, i.e. drinking about 3 - 4 gallons / day water is probably the quickest way to the morgue a bodybuilder can do themselves.

 

[Wulfgar]

I guess I should chime in here since Ive used DNP on multiple occasions. But I generally use it for a different purpose than most guys.

First things first no one who does not compete should even touch this shit. And even those who do better check themselves if they have a addictive personality or if they are in a rush to lose the fat because I show is creeping up on them or something.

My attraction to DNp other than the fat loss aspect is its ability to create a catabolic state in the body in a short period of time. It tends to clean out androgen(and other) recptor sites very quickly. So one can quickly induce a sort of "controlled overtrained" state. which as anybody who has ever seen a post competition bodybuilder face slam massive calories after a show and grow like a weed knows, this state can significantly create a powerful anabolic state.

Anyhow, a few guidelines should be laid out here for those who insist on using the stuff.

- never take over 5mg/kg bw daily but 3-4mg/kg BW is better(which max for me is roughly 680mg daily and I am close to 300 lbs @ 12% right now, and i never exceeded 600 mg over 24 hours in my life)
- never use it if you are over 12%BF
- Never use it for longer than 5 days straight
- Drink approx 2 gallons of water a day to flush all the catabolic waste from your body
- Eat at least 2.5 G protein per lb of BW daily
- Multivitmain is essential
- a good antioxidant stack is wise
- 50-150 G glutamine a day is essential
- Dont do any high weight training techniques while you are on since DNP tends to compromise the joints somewhat
- And please people, for fucks sake, do not use clen, ephedra, meth, crack, cocaine, T3 or any other stupid fucking CNS stimulant while on this shit.


I did not want to be a voice of dissent or anything here. But I know that many guys do and will always use this stuff heedless of any warnings. They may as well be as safe as possible while doing it.





and btw ECY, I am sorry you had to learn the hard way my man

 

[Acela]

I guess I should chime in here since Ive used DNP on multiple occasions. But I generally use it for a different purpose than most guys.

First things first no one who does not compete should even touch this shit. And even those who do better check themselves if they have a addictive personality or if they are in a rush to lose the fat because I show is creeping up on them or something.

My attraction to DNp other than the fat loss aspect is its ability to create a catabolic state in the body in a short period of time. It tends to clean out androgen(and other) recptor sites very quickly. So one can quickly induce a sort of "controlled overtrained" state. which as anybody who has ever seen a post competition bodybuilder face slam massive calories after a show and grow like a weed knows, this state can significantly create a powerful anabolic state.

Anyhow, a few guidelines should be laid out here for those who insist on using the stuff.

- never take over 5mg/kg bw daily but 3-4mg/kg BW is better(which max for me is roughly 680mg daily and I am close to 300 lbs @ 12% right now, and i never exceeded 600 mg over 24 hours in my life)
- never use it if you are over 12%BF
- Never use it for longer than 5 days straight
- Drink approx 2 gallons of water a day to flush all the catabolic waste from your body
- Eat at least 2.5 G protein per lb of BW daily
- Multivitmain is essential
- a good antioxidant stack is wise
- 50-150 G glutamine a day is essential
- Dont do any high weight training techniques while you are on since DNP tends to compromise the joints somewhat
- And please people, for fucks sake, do not use clen, ephedra, meth, crack, cocaine, T3 or any other stupid fucking CNS stimulant while on this shit.


I did not want to be a voice of dissent or anything here. But I know that many guys do and will always use this stuff heedless of any warnings. They may as well be as safe as possible while doing it.





well articulated my friend