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ponyfitness
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I believe that there is an ultimate cause to everything existing and the concept of that is what we refer to as God. I don't believe that he created the world in 7 days or that he sits up in heaven on a fluffy cloud.
all the whey
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Is God the one that has elves working for him? Or, is it the one that gave me money when I put a tooth under my pillow when I was a kid?
I get them mixed up.
I get them mixed up.
crazyjoe
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All hail the great pussy in the sky. Where can I sign up to give 10% of my income to be able to worship that almighty pussy?all the whey said:Is God the one that has elves working for him? Or, is it the one that gave me money when I put a tooth under my pillow when I was a kid?
I get them mixed up.
b0und
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Humanism doesn't oppose theism, nor atheism or agnosticism.
Whether or not you believe in God is not really the point, how you act on that belief is the point:
A) My believe in God means I must help other people and make this world a better place...
B) My believe in God means I must wage holy war against all those unbelievers, die all those homosexuals, atheists and EF C&C users...
It's the latter that scare me.
b0und (tryhard humanist)
Whether or not you believe in God is not really the point, how you act on that belief is the point:
A) My believe in God means I must help other people and make this world a better place...
B) My believe in God means I must wage holy war against all those unbelievers, die all those homosexuals, atheists and EF C&C users...
It's the latter that scare me.
b0und (tryhard humanist)
Papa Lion
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reminds me of a sketch on SNL with Robert Duvall, "grisly old men" a contest where two old men had to face off to see who was most hardened grisly old man
I can't rememebr what the other guy said... but Robert Duvall wins it when he says in a rugged ol southern boy voice:
"when we hit the beach at Normandy... I never wished more there was a god in heaven... an I was never more certain der wodn't"
I can't rememebr what the other guy said... but Robert Duvall wins it when he says in a rugged ol southern boy voice:
"when we hit the beach at Normandy... I never wished more there was a god in heaven... an I was never more certain der wodn't"
stosstruppe
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There's a God, maybe, certainly no bloody religion.
all the whey said:Is God the one that has elves working for him? Or, is it the one that gave me money when I put a tooth under my pillow when I was a kid?
I get them mixed up.
LOL! to explain this quaote further.... there is a difference between FANTASY and REALITY!
religon was created by mans mind, hence it is not fact.
besides, if god was so superpowerful - creating us with a mere thought, why did he make us so imperfect?
why did he create mindless dinosaurs that roamed the earth for thousands of years?
why did he create millions of other planets with no life.
thers nothing logical about this.
come on man.
digimon7068
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i don't know what i believe. . .but i take my wife and kids to church every sunday. . .it makes my wife happy. . .i don't need any other reasons. . .
captainahole
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nope.
but I do believe in the power of the universe and a super being, but to give him a name and go to a place to worship him absolutely not.
religion is big business probably one of the largest and earliest corporations to be created.
but I do believe in the power of the universe and a super being, but to give him a name and go to a place to worship him absolutely not.
religion is big business probably one of the largest and earliest corporations to be created.
digimon7068
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Sartene said:
"logic" really has no place in a discussion on religion. . .believing in something that you've never seen and that no one can prove exists is, by it's very nature, illogical. . .trying to understand and prove or disprove it through logical means is about as useful as tits on a boar. . .
foreigngirl
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b0und said:
did you watch "The Gods Warriors" on CNN? It aired for 3 nights, each episode 2 hours long and it presented (unbiasedly) the jewish, muslim and christian "warriors" . It made me sick to my stomach.
digimon7068
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HumanTarget said:
there. . .i've validated you. . .feel better now??
mountain muscle
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Do I believe in God?
Which one?
Which one?
digimon7068
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HumanTarget said:
wtf is pharyngitis?
Pharyngitis (far-in-jī' tis) is a painful inflammation of the pharynx, and is colloquially referred to as a sore throat. Infection of the tonsils, tonsillitis may occur simultaneously.
The major cause is infection, of which about 90% are viral, the remainder caused by bacterial infection and rarely oral thrush (fungal candidiasis e.g. in babies). Some cases of pharyngitis are caused by irritation from agents such as pollutants or chemical substances.
booger-sugar??
digimon7068
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jh1 said:
lots of chemicals used in the process, though. . .eats the skin right off the peoples feet that stomp the leaves (like stomping grapes) to make the paste. . .
layinback
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digimon, you are 100% right. what you have described here is called "the kierkegaardian leap of faith" kierkegaard was a christian philosopher and apologist. btw he was a supra genius and in the intellectual league of nietzche his work is a must read for folk interested in this subject.digimon7068 said:
jh1
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digimon7068 said:
Lots of FDA approved 'foods' are extracted / processed with chemicals as well...
Cocaine is simply a plant extract... any reminance left of said chemicals is due to the low class manufacturing standards of the 'jungle'....
I love how they make a big deal about that with the meth cookers too.... they walk in bio hazards suits, etc... which is mainly a public relations campaign more than it is for their protection. The majority of drugs, approved by the FDA, are processed / manufactured the same way with the same if not more dangerous chemicals - on a much larger scale, in a more safety concious environment...
But then they run around also saying your are putting battery acid in your body, etc... LOL....
digimon7068
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jh1 said:Lots of FDA approved 'foods' are extracted / processed with chemicals as well...
Cocaine is simply a plant extract... any reminance left of said chemicals is due to the low class manufacturing standards of the 'jungle'....
I love how they make a big deal about that with the meth cookers too.... they walk in bio hazards suits, etc... which is mainly a public relations campaign more than it is for their protection. The majority of drugs, approved by the FDA, are processed / manufactured the same way with the same if not more dangerous chemicals - on a much larger scale, in a more safety concious environment...
But then they run around also saying your are putting battery acid in your body, etc... LOL....
yeah. . .but d00d. . .you're putting south american foot cells up your nose. . .that can't be good
jh1
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digimon7068 said:yeah. . .but d00d. . .you're putting south american foot cells up your nose. . .that can't be good
Dood... I bought this Oz of blow on the cheap once... it stunk like bootay....
These bishes were doing it all night, eventually you can't smell anymore, but I couldn't bring myself to do enough to get there. I got rid of the rest at a loss shortly there after...
Yeah, it's gross.
But, peeps drank / drink wine that was stomped by some stank azz feet too....
redsamurai
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HumanTarget said:
I hear that's the libation of choice at Lions games............hehehe
Agnostic. I believe in sense experience, I wasn't around many years back so how would I know what happened? All I can do is take others word for it. But I do know the apple is real to me because I can taste it. The spider building its web on my back fence is real because I can see it. The river is real because I can hear it. My penis is real because I can touch it, and do I ever! You get the idea.
layinback said:
You asked me a question on jons, "ask god... er puddlemonkey a question" thread and you never told me if I was right. Well?
layinback said:
Wouldn't it have been easier to say, "yes Puddle, you're right (as always)"?
layinback
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no.( and yes you are "right" as usual. this is why you MUST be eliminated). i have to be "right".me me me me me. there is not enough room for YOU. i will save you from your inevitable death from AIDS or other "gay related death". i WILL take you out.......eventually.PuddleMonkey said:
I don't find any of the myths plausible.
I consider myself more of an agnostic than an athiest, just because while intellectually I don't believe in the fairy tales, but it's hard to shake 17 years of conditioning, sometimes there are some emotional reactions that I can't quite help.
I consider myself more of an agnostic than an athiest, just because while intellectually I don't believe in the fairy tales, but it's hard to shake 17 years of conditioning, sometimes there are some emotional reactions that I can't quite help.
redsamurai
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there's a divine presence in this universe........no matter what "physical" explanations atheists come up with, I can't help but look in the sky at night and not see "something" there. I think where man went wrong was to try to put "god" in physical terms that are palatable to the human intellect.........and from there on it evolved into "control". Control what men beleive is going to happen to them when they die, and you can dictate to them what to do............religion disgusts me to the core of my being. I "see" god.........but I have no need to put him/it into a human box from which I can understand him/it better...........because I realize my human limitations. Some things weren't supposed to be realized in full..........but each of were supposed to follow our own path through life and find god/divine presence on our own terms. Why anyone trusts ANYTHING written by men is beyond me.........it truly is. Listening to people characterizing the bible as divinely written strains my every intellectual fiber..........because it's nonsense.
layinback said:
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layinback said:
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digimon7068
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layinback said:
my wife is from west virginia. . .she had to move to pa with me because she married outside her family
digimon7068
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layinback said:
oh yeah. . .she was so good last night, i'm pretty sure i saw god. . .
I believe there is more to existance than that which our usual five senses reports back to us.
I believe we are part of the Divine and the Divine is part of us and the Divine is the machinery of the universe, actually the Universe itself.
I do not believe in some gray bearded dude in a long white robe and sandles sitting up in some cloud writing down in some book every time we diddle ourselves.
I do not believe in some redskinned dude with a pitchfork and horns, waiting for those of us who diddled too much to land in his fire ponds.
I do believe that there have been elevated masters, like Buddha, Christ, Mohammed, etc., who have walked among us and taught.
The other stuff is a lot of details, you find what works for you and go from there. It all works out, we have all of eternity to figure it out.
I believe we are part of the Divine and the Divine is part of us and the Divine is the machinery of the universe, actually the Universe itself.
I do not believe in some gray bearded dude in a long white robe and sandles sitting up in some cloud writing down in some book every time we diddle ourselves.
I do not believe in some redskinned dude with a pitchfork and horns, waiting for those of us who diddled too much to land in his fire ponds.
I do believe that there have been elevated masters, like Buddha, Christ, Mohammed, etc., who have walked among us and taught.
The other stuff is a lot of details, you find what works for you and go from there. It all works out, we have all of eternity to figure it out.
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musclemom said:
Me too... I just have an issue with ALL organized religion.
I was raised Magyar Reformed (protestant); wen to church every sunday till I met my exhusband at barely 21. Attended Catholic high school = four years of Catholic religion classes and took some religion classes in college as I found the topic of religion fascinating. I dabbled a bit with paganism (if that is the right word) but never really put the time into proper study to practise. Perhaps someday I will. I'm not sure.
I would like to practise SOME sort of religion, but I just haven't found one that isn't complicated or hypocritical.
My faith, though, is VERY strong.
foreigngirl
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I believe in the spiritual world. I believe in the one dwelling far away from our understanding. So, I am not trying to "find" him/her/it, he/she/it is not lost I just try to live my life with as much understanding for the religions as possible and I am not throwing my own beliefs out there. If someone asks me, I answer and explain and thats it. Its up to our own selfs, up to our own awareness to try to find our truth and live the best life that we can
I just try to live my life with as much understanding for the religions as possible and I am not throwing my own beliefs out there. If someone asks me, I answer and explain and thats it. Its up to our own selfs, up to our own awareness to try to find our truth and live the best life that we can
Paganism is the right word. There's a lot to study, in some ways, or nothing to study at all.BIKINIMOM said:
Look into Unitarian Universalism, they're sort of the democracy of religions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalism
Organized, but open.
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musclemom said:
Thanks MM.... I am feeling the need for order and ritual in my life as I have ZERO.
I don't feel the need to ask any diety for help per se (I think that is hypocritical. Every one only seems to remember *God* when they are having a tough time and conveniently forget when everything is hunky-dory - I dont roll that way). I just want some order. Does that make any sense?
Makes complete sense, that's one of the reasons why my husband and I found a coven in a wiccan tradition that works for us. Based quite a bit on the Theosophist's society mindset, relatively structured, but open to a lot of different spiritual beliefs. There are a LOT of pagans that are very militant and just bash Christians or all organized religious beliefs.BIKINIMOM said:
It's all about balance, finding something to keep your life/heart/head on an even keel. Wicca's nice because it's got holidays spaced throughout the year that actually mark seasonal events/times.
Atheist.
No evidence to believe that the universe was designed or created, for as magnificent as it is, its full of flaws an inefficiencies (Christians will tell you it was perfect until flawed man sinned and ruined it all, before that animals all lived in harmony!).
Also, if you believe there is a God, then who created that god? How was HE designed, how did HE come into existence?
No evidence to believe that the universe was designed or created, for as magnificent as it is, its full of flaws an inefficiencies (Christians will tell you it was perfect until flawed man sinned and ruined it all, before that animals all lived in harmony!).
Also, if you believe there is a God, then who created that god? How was HE designed, how did HE come into existence?
Sean Scott
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protestant here...
Qabala answers all this shit.Lestat said:
But basically the Universe is self aware, seriously. The spaces in between the molecules, the Zero Point Field that quantum physicists have only just learned to recognize, is apparently the recording medium of the Universe's memory and everything that is, was, or ever will be is a part of the Universe's sensory organs and learning experiences, and those experiences are recorded in the zero point field.
Life, in all its forms, is the Universe's attempt at learning about Itself on the most base level, so to speak.
But if atheism makes you happy, that's okay too
atheism doesn't rule out the possiblity that the universe works in ways we do not comprehend or know about yet, it simply states that there is no reason for me to believe that there is one deity or being that presides over all of the known and unknown universe.musclemom said:Qabala answers all this shit.
But basically the Universe is self aware, seriously. The spaces in between the molecules, the Zero Point Field that quantum physicists have only just learned to recognize, is apparently the recording medium of the Universe's memory and everything that is, was, or ever will be is a part of the Universe's sensory organs and learning experiences, and those experiences are recorded in the zero point field.
Life, in all its forms, is the Universe's attempt at learning about Itself on the most base level, so to speak.
But if atheism makes you happy, that's okay too
layinback said:
Like, say, South Carolina girls???
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/chat-conversation/sad-state-education-america-today-562871.html
redsamurai
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musclemom said:
I'm fine either way now, I've stopped diddling myself...........
figured out I was losing too much of my power.to the person who k messaged me and said that they hope one day i feel god- thank you for the thought, but it won't happen because it's an illusion in your own head. I prefer to get my beautiful feelings in ways other than imagining something 'holy' that isn't there and never will be.
i'm glad you thinking that there is a god makes you feel better and i'm glad that thought helps you. I am much more realistic and a free thinker.
but i really do appreciate the thought, because i know you meant it in the bestest way possible.
i'm glad you thinking that there is a god makes you feel better and i'm glad that thought helps you. I am much more realistic and a free thinker.
but i really do appreciate the thought, because i know you meant it in the bestest way possible.
*chirp*
javaguru said:Shouldn't you be trying to pick up bar skanks right about now?
I was until you rudely interrupted.
Now as I was saying.... *chirp*
layinback said:
Oh, there you are!
javaguru
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I've caught all kinds of crap for my religion threads.....layinback said:
I'll stir the pot again with a repost.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q1m-8npkJ4
javaguru
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Christopher Hitchens....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY8fjFKAC5k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY8fjFKAC5k
b0und
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foreigngirl said:
No, I don't get to watch much TV these days. Religious 'warriors' of any kind are pretty sickening.
Again, I have nothing against believing in God, or not believing - dogmatic atheism doesn't really help the debate though, nor does dogmatic theism. It is what you do with your life and how your beliefs are acted out what really matters.
b0und (now let's go and burn some witches, those damn heathens)
javaguru
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God is Not great on Bill Maher....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIZS7jIy608
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIZS7jIy608
layinback
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java, i never miss an episode of bullshit. this thread merely poses the question what do you believe and why. curious that no one is really explaining WHY they believe what they believe. the non believers seem to be basing beliefs on emotion as much as believers. when one is being "rebellious" they are as subject to irrationality as those that "capitulate" i could be wrong but i think i detect rebellion in a lot of these post. btw humanism and the like are religions. sans god but religions none the less. i would love to see some in-depth explanations of beliefs here. i may be dissapointed. oh well maybe that fag puddles is right.......chirp.....javaguru said:I've caught all kinds of crap for my religion threads.....
I'll stir the pot again with a repost.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q1m-8npkJ4
javaguru said:
Don't forget the the M*A*S*H vid bro
javaguru
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needtogetaas
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right now if you wanted to...if you really wanted to.you could see god,you could feel god
you could here god....if you dont want to then you never will its pretty simple.god only comes to them who truely seek for him and not for them seeking for a his hand but for them that seek his face.
you could here god....if you dont want to then you never will its pretty simple.god only comes to them who truely seek for him and not for them seeking for a his hand but for them that seek his face.
all the whey
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needtogetaas said:
redsamurai
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layinback said:
A) you must not have been reading alot of posts here then, because alot of people explained what they beleive and why.
B) I think what you perceive as "rebelliousness" is people waking up to the world.........finally. After all this time people are realizing that organized, dogmatic religions have driven humanity apart and created much hate and intolerance.
redsamurai
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needtogetaas said:
yeah?? what does he look like? what's his name? Is he a good borly? does he juice? he juices doesn't he? Yeah, I can tell!!!.......
layinback
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i have read each and every post. i am painfully aware of the death and destruction that religion has caused and is causing as i type. truth with a capital T is the most dangerous entity on earth and i am pleased that folks are "waking up." hell i used that exact term yesterday in a post to javaguru. i am not referring to ppls passionate discourse but rather "im too smart for this god stuff" " ha ha ha silly theist" or conversely " i beleive because the world is so fuckin beautiful" maybe thats to simple for me. dude i could complicate a cup of black coffee!!! i will shut the fuck up now.redsamurai said:
needtogetaas said:
it's about as likely as you believing in santa, since they are both an old wives tale that people believe because their friends and parents tell them to.
The only difference being eventually your parents tell you there is no santa and money making churches try even harder to make you believe their is a god.
there are beautiful, uplifting, and 'heavenly' sights and events in nature or in life that happen all the time. there's no need to attribute it to "god", but if you need that excuse to explain things, then i hope it works for you.
i also hope you find reality one day. because as insulting as that may sound, its the same as someone saying they hope I find god.
foreigngirl
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seriously, it always boggled my mind when people say that. Why does one need to find god? Is god hiding? Or when they say - you will find out when you diestilleto said:
Blech, find out what? I'll burn in hell? Oh, please.....Similar threads
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