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Considering DBOL To Current Cycle

Bicoma

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Good day,

I have been on long term TRT for roughly 8 months. Only issue is elevated E2 which ive managed fine. I donate blood every 3 months due to slight hgb increase typically by 1 and get blood work usually every 2 months to check where im at. I take cialis before the gym for pump and telmisartan 20mg to normalize bp. I have dialed in my cycle which I will describe below.

200MG TRT C - Split shots every other day

4iu HGH - Pinned every night 2 hours after last meal before bed

100mg DECA - Split and pinned with my TRT shots.

1000IU HCG - Split up injected M,W, F

2.5mg RETA - Pinned once a week

Anastrozole .25mg 3 times a week

Now as you can imagine I am a high aromatizer but estrogen is closely monitored as I get blood work through the VA whenever I ask. I had it checked a month back and it was in the 90s when I wasnt really taking my AI with some itchy nips and acne. Any time this happens id take .25mg anastrozole and this made me normal. Now I switched to .25 mg twice a week and recent results as of last week showed it being in the 60s since I started this which is still high although relatively no sides besides slight acne so I decided to add one more dose of .25mg to bring me down a little more. I’ll retest in about 3 weeks to see what my levels at.

Now to my main concern I just got DBOL I do hear it can increase E2 significantly and wondering how best to run it. I will only do 20mg a day sublingually for 4 weeks give my body time to adjust and see how it goes. I suspect I might need to do .25mg of anastrozole once a day and im hoping this keeps e2/bloat at bay. My diet is locked with fats low under 70g and protein intake at about 240g a day I also do 50 mins of cardio after workouts so my hope is this with telmisartan will keep the BLOAT/BP at a minimum. I also recently donated blood to get hgb down and in order before I start this. Id like any experience running it especially if you are a high aromatizer and what worked or didnt work for you. I want to do everything as safely an efficiant as possible to put on serious mass everything ive taken up to this point has worked well with minimal sides given my vigilance on blood work. Im also currently 204lbs I took a week off gym to let one of my elbows heal and should be good as new friday to begin. Will post a picture of current physique as well the goal is mass ive been cutting but want to put on some serious weight. As an alternative I also have ANAVAR as well on hand which would pair nicely just not entirely sure if that would be better given im already lean.
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Bicoma said:
Good day,

I have been on long term TRT for roughly 8 months. Only issue is elevated E2 which ive managed fine. I donate blood every 3 months due to slight hgb increase typically by 1 and get blood work usually every 2 months to check where im at. I take cialis before the gym for pump and telmisartan 20mg to normalize bp. I have dialed in my cycle which I will describe below.

200MG TRT C - Split shots every other day

4iu HGH - Pinned every night 2 hours after last meal before bed

100mg DECA - Split and pinned with my TRT shots.

1000IU HCG - Split up injected M,W, F

2.5mg RETA - Pinned once a week

Anastrozole .25mg 3 times a week

Now as you can imagine I am a high aromatizer but estrogen is closely monitored as I get blood work through the VA whenever I ask. I had it checked a month back and it was in the 90s when I wasnt really taking my AI with some itchy nips and acne. Any time this happens id take .25mg anastrozole and this made me normal. Now I switched to .25 mg twice a week and recent results as of last week showed it being in the 60s since I started this which is still high although relatively no sides besides slight acne so I decided to add one more dose of .25mg to bring me down a little more. I’ll retest in about 3 weeks to see what my levels at.

Now to my main concern I just got DBOL I do hear it can increase E2 significantly and wondering how best to run it. I will only do 20mg a day sublingually for 4 weeks give my body time to adjust and see how it goes. I suspect I might need to do .25mg of anastrozole once a day and im hoping this keeps e2/bloat at bay. My diet is locked with fats low under 70g and protein intake at about 240g a day I also do 50 mins of cardio after workouts so my hope is this with telmisartan will keep the BLOAT/BP at a minimum. I also recently donated blood to get hgb down and in order before I start this. Id like any experience running it especially if you are a high aromatizer and what worked or didnt work for you. I want to do everything as safely an efficiant as possible to put on serious mass everything ive taken up to this point has worked well with minimal sides given my vigilance on blood work. Im also currently 204lbs I took a week off gym to let one of my elbows heal and should be good as new friday to begin. Will post a picture of current physique as well the goal is mass ive been cutting but want to put on some serious weight. As an alternative I also have ANAVAR as well on hand which would pair nicely just not entirely sure if that would be better given im already lean. View attachment 167826
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damn u look really good bro
@Bicoma welcome to EF
you can add dbol but why not tbol or var? or anadrol

id like to see you start up a log bro can you do that 10min to start

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Bicoma said:
Good day,

I have been on long term TRT for roughly 8 months. Only issue is elevated E2 which ive managed fine. I donate blood every 3 months due to slight hgb increase typically by 1 and get blood work usually every 2 months to check where im at. I take cialis before the gym for pump and telmisartan 20mg to normalize bp. I have dialed in my cycle which I will describe below.

200MG TRT C - Split shots every other day

4iu HGH - Pinned every night 2 hours after last meal before bed

100mg DECA - Split and pinned with my TRT shots.

1000IU HCG - Split up injected M,W, F

2.5mg RETA - Pinned once a week

Anastrozole .25mg 3 times a week

Now as you can imagine I am a high aromatizer but estrogen is closely monitored as I get blood work through the VA whenever I ask. I had it checked a month back and it was in the 90s when I wasnt really taking my AI with some itchy nips and acne. Any time this happens id take .25mg anastrozole and this made me normal. Now I switched to .25 mg twice a week and recent results as of last week showed it being in the 60s since I started this which is still high although relatively no sides besides slight acne so I decided to add one more dose of .25mg to bring me down a little more. I’ll retest in about 3 weeks to see what my levels at.

Now to my main concern I just got DBOL I do hear it can increase E2 significantly and wondering how best to run it. I will only do 20mg a day sublingually for 4 weeks give my body time to adjust and see how it goes. I suspect I might need to do .25mg of anastrozole once a day and im hoping this keeps e2/bloat at bay. My diet is locked with fats low under 70g and protein intake at about 240g a day I also do 50 mins of cardio after workouts so my hope is this with telmisartan will keep the BLOAT/BP at a minimum. I also recently donated blood to get hgb down and in order before I start this. Id like any experience running it especially if you are a high aromatizer and what worked or didnt work for you. I want to do everything as safely an efficiant as possible to put on serious mass everything ive taken up to this point has worked well with minimal sides given my vigilance on blood work. Im also currently 204lbs I took a week off gym to let one of my elbows heal and should be good as new friday to begin. Will post a picture of current physique as well the goal is mass ive been cutting but want to put on some serious weight. As an alternative I also have ANAVAR as well on hand which would pair nicely just not entirely sure if that would be better given im already lean. View attachment 167826
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@Bicoma you've got a solid physique. I wouldn't add D-bol to it. Why would you want to blow it up?
 
Bicoma said:
I just seen it can help put on size if managed right but more I debate the more I lean on anavar since im already pretty lean.
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My counter argument is: why would you want to get all fluffy at the end of the day? You've got a nice ripped physique; why not focus on improving it from here?
 
stevesmi said:
@Bicoma you've got a solid physique. I wouldn't add D-bol to it. Why would you want to blow it up?
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Your probably right I might just be caught up watching Mike Mentzer seeing how ripped he was on dbol but I imagine he was also taking primo to counter estrogen sides. I think ill just stick with anavar and get it chizzled with that instead plus safer route and wont have to manage E2 as bad.
 
Bicoma said:
Your probably right I might just be caught up watching Mike Mentzer seeing how ripped he was on dbol but I imagine he was also taking primo to counter estrogen sides. I think ill just stick with anavar and get it chizzled with that instead plus safer route and wont have to manage E2 as bad.
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The nice thing about dbol is you can always just try it and then stop it if you don't like what's happening but it does aromatize very quickly.
 
Bicoma said:
Good day,

I have been on long term TRT for roughly 8 months. Only issue is elevated E2 which ive managed fine. I donate blood every 3 months due to slight hgb increase typically by 1 and get blood work usually every 2 months to check where im at. I take cialis before the gym for pump and telmisartan 20mg to normalize bp. I have dialed in my cycle which I will describe below.

200MG TRT C - Split shots every other day

4iu HGH - Pinned every night 2 hours after last meal before bed

100mg DECA - Split and pinned with my TRT shots.

1000IU HCG - Split up injected M,W, F

2.5mg RETA - Pinned once a week

Anastrozole .25mg 3 times a week

Now as you can imagine I am a high aromatizer but estrogen is closely monitored as I get blood work through the VA whenever I ask. I had it checked a month back and it was in the 90s when I wasnt really taking my AI with some itchy nips and acne. Any time this happens id take .25mg anastrozole and this made me normal. Now I switched to .25 mg twice a week and recent results as of last week showed it being in the 60s since I started this which is still high although relatively no sides besides slight acne so I decided to add one more dose of .25mg to bring me down a little more. I’ll retest in about 3 weeks to see what my levels at.

Now to my main concern I just got DBOL I do hear it can increase E2 significantly and wondering how best to run it. I will only do 20mg a day sublingually for 4 weeks give my body time to adjust and see how it goes. I suspect I might need to do .25mg of anastrozole once a day and im hoping this keeps e2/bloat at bay. My diet is locked with fats low under 70g and protein intake at about 240g a day I also do 50 mins of cardio after workouts so my hope is this with telmisartan will keep the BLOAT/BP at a minimum. I also recently donated blood to get hgb down and in order before I start this. Id like any experience running it especially if you are a high aromatizer and what worked or didnt work for you. I want to do everything as safely an efficiant as possible to put on serious mass everything ive taken up to this point has worked well with minimal sides given my vigilance on blood work. Im also currently 204lbs I took a week off gym to let one of my elbows heal and should be good as new friday to begin. Will post a picture of current physique as well the goal is mass ive been cutting but want to put on some serious weight. As an alternative I also have ANAVAR as well on hand which would pair nicely just not entirely sure if that would be better given im already lean. View attachment 167826
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Bros, I say you go with T-bol. It's similar to dbol but doesn't come with water retention. You'll like it.
 
ceo said:
Bros, I say you go with T-bol. It's similar to dbol but doesn't come with water retention. You'll like it.
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Ive seen you mention Tbol on research ive been doing but have no experience with it will have to look into it further on dosing and things to look out for!
 
Bicoma said:
Good day,

I have been on long term TRT for roughly 8 months. Only issue is elevated E2 which ive managed fine. I donate blood every 3 months due to slight hgb increase typically by 1 and get blood work usually every 2 months to check where im at. I take cialis before the gym for pump and telmisartan 20mg to normalize bp. I have dialed in my cycle which I will describe below.

200MG TRT C - Split shots every other day

4iu HGH - Pinned every night 2 hours after last meal before bed

100mg DECA - Split and pinned with my TRT shots.

1000IU HCG - Split up injected M,W, F

2.5mg RETA - Pinned once a week

Anastrozole .25mg 3 times a week

Now as you can imagine I am a high aromatizer but estrogen is closely monitored as I get blood work through the VA whenever I ask. I had it checked a month back and it was in the 90s when I wasnt really taking my AI with some itchy nips and acne. Any time this happens id take .25mg anastrozole and this made me normal. Now I switched to .25 mg twice a week and recent results as of last week showed it being in the 60s since I started this which is still high although relatively no sides besides slight acne so I decided to add one more dose of .25mg to bring me down a little more. I’ll retest in about 3 weeks to see what my levels at.

Now to my main concern I just got DBOL I do hear it can increase E2 significantly and wondering how best to run it. I will only do 20mg a day sublingually for 4 weeks give my body time to adjust and see how it goes. I suspect I might need to do .25mg of anastrozole once a day and im hoping this keeps e2/bloat at bay. My diet is locked with fats low under 70g and protein intake at about 240g a day I also do 50 mins of cardio after workouts so my hope is this with telmisartan will keep the BLOAT/BP at a minimum. I also recently donated blood to get hgb down and in order before I start this. Id like any experience running it especially if you are a high aromatizer and what worked or didnt work for you. I want to do everything as safely an efficiant as possible to put on serious mass everything ive taken up to this point has worked well with minimal sides given my vigilance on blood work. Im also currently 204lbs I took a week off gym to let one of my elbows heal and should be good as new friday to begin. Will post a picture of current physique as well the goal is mass ive been cutting but want to put on some serious weight. As an alternative I also have ANAVAR as well on hand which would pair nicely just not entirely sure if that would be better given im already lean. View attachment 167826
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You can certainly run dbol but I would keep it very low. 10 to 20 mg is fine. You want to run 20 mg of it but I would even stick to something lower, maybe even 15 mg.
 
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