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bobcat or mountian lion

Y'know there wouldn't even be a question if she had just hesitated a second longer and caught the damn thing's ass in the frame so we could see the tail!

Big_bad, I can't believe she take more than one picture?! Who sees a wild cat about to pounce a raccoon and doesn't take more than one shot?!

yeah, i'm wondering why she didnt send more pics. i think she just wanted to know if any of us knew which it was. i emailed her for more pics, we shall see
 
It's not a damn bobcat you guys. I promise.

That would be the largest bobcat ever.


The thickness and muscularity of the cougar is very obvious and aparent hear. Bobcats do not have thick muscle on their shoulders like that, and they have wirey legs. They do not have thick legs like that.


I know this. (For what it's worth).... I took a Wildlife Biology class in college, and we we're required to identify animals by photgraph for tests. We did a whole section on the felis genus. (for those of you know what a :genus" is, you know what I am talking about) I know what to look for and there is no question it is a cougar. Like I said twice already, The muscle mass of that cat is a quality bobcats do not have. Period. The head is shaped distinctly like a cougar as well. The way the mouth and nose are set in the skull is very cougar-esk.



Cougar.


End of debate.
 
It's not a damn bobcat you guys. I promise.

That would be the largest bobcat ever.


The thickness and muscularity of the cougar is very obvious and aparent hear. Bobcats do not have thick muscle on their shoulders like that, and they have wirey legs. They do not have thick legs like that.


I know this. (For what it's worth).... I took a Wildlife Biology class in college, and we we're required to identify animals by photgraph for tests. We did a whole section on the felis genus. (for those of you know what a :genus" is, you know what I am talking about) I know what to look for and there is no question it is a cougar. Like I said twice already, The muscle mass of that cat is a quality bobcats do not have. Period. The head is shaped distinctly like a cougar as well. The way the mouth and nose are set in the skull is very cougar-esk.



Cougar.


End of debate.




Ditto!I agree
as a wildlife artist (yeah! I do that in my spare time) I have studied my subjects (a requirement if your gonna hang with the big boys) thats not a bobcat!
The bone structure and muscle mass does not even come close!

RADAR
 
Even if that were a fullgrown Bobcat, it would not be twice as long (which it appears to be) as an average sized raccoon (sizes according to Wiki).
I still vote cougar (albeit a juvenile). And yes, too bad the pic was clipped before the tail. The juvenile I saw had a lonnnnnnnng stovepipe tail, it seemed almost as long as it's body.

From Wiki:

The adult male Bobcat is 28 to 47 inches (70–120 cm) long, averaging 36 inches (90 cm); this includes a stubby 4 to 7 inch (10–18 cm) tail,[11] which has a "bobbed" appearance and gives the species its name. An adult stands about 14 or 15 inches (36–38 cm) at the shoulders.[9] Adult males usually range from 16 to 30 pounds (7–14 kg); females average about 20 pounds (9 kg)


With a body length between 41 and 71 cm (16.1–28.0 in) and a weight between 3.9 and 9.0 kg (8.6–19.8 lb), the raccoon is the largest procyonid.


Cougars are slender and agile cats. Adults stand about 60 to 76 cm (2.0 to 2.5 ft) tall at the shoulders. The length of adult males is around 2.4 m (8 ft) long nose to tail, with overall ranges between 1.5 and 2.75 meters (5 and 9 ft) nose to tail suggested for the species in general.[14][15] Males have an average weight of about 53 to 72 kilograms (115 to 160 pounds). In rare cases, some may reach over 118 kg (260 lb). Female average weight is between 34 and 48 kg (75 and 105 lb).[16] Cougar size is smallest close to the equator, and larger towards the poles.[3]
 
It's not a damn bobcat you guys. I promise.

That would be the largest bobcat ever.


The thickness and muscularity of the cougar is very obvious and aparent hear. Bobcats do not have thick muscle on their shoulders like that, and they have wirey legs. They do not have thick legs like that.


I know this. (For what it's worth).... I took a Wildlife Biology class in college, and we we're required to identify animals by photgraph for tests. We did a whole section on the felis genus. (for those of you know what a :genus" is, you know what I am talking about) I know what to look for and there is no question it is a cougar. Like I said twice already, The muscle mass of that cat is a quality bobcats do not have. Period. The head is shaped distinctly like a cougar as well. The way the mouth and nose are set in the skull is very cougar-esk.



Cougar.


End of debate.


i'm still going to disagree with you on this. i have seen many many many bobcats in person and killed a few myself. they are most def muscular cats. the spots on this cat give it away. the size that of a larger bobcat, but still not to large to be one. check out this pic, about the same size.

http://bookingnwguides.com/BigGame/oregon/oregon-trophy-bobcat-photo1.jpg
 
long hair down side of head, like side-burns
bobcat.jpg
 
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