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Are You A Telemarketer?

PuddleMonkey said:
I will have to give wonderboy credit for stepping forward. Not many would admit to it.


I did when I started in this business, but I got tired of it and get my bidness from different sources. Now it's more maintaining business relationships instead of beating the pavement.
 
PuddleMonkey said:
How do you sleep at night knowing that 99% of the population wants you dead?



lol, what is this, some sort of self motivation shit?



If people NEED it they would have already come to you. I even rank infomercials above telemarketers, at least I have the option of not watching it.



We have plenty of snakes and snails here in the pacific northwest, we don't need anymore.



How is it the path of least resistance when it has probably the highest % of failure per opportunity?


You got to it before me, but my sentiments pretty much exactly. Yeah I've tried selling life/health insurance, went through the training, took the tests, etc. and said to hell with that. I'll agree it takes a certain type to do it, and many business people will praise it as a good way to get business, but for people to call those who can't/don't want to do it weak with zero business skills is a little short sighted. A good used car salesman may be tough as nails in the business world too but even will have more integrity than the typical telemarketer. He's not on the phone trying to lure people to him, people make the decision to see him themselves; perhaps after seeing his cheesy local car ad, but still.
The attempt at manipulating people's confidence over their own self wants/needs on their own time, for something they haven't solicited as a way of making your money is a sleazy, unethical way to do business in itself, imo. It may be effective to fools (and apparently there are a lot of fools out there) but apparently there are also many more who won't put up with it, ie PuddleMonkey.
Pitch what you have to sell and people should be smart enough to decide for themselves if they need it, without the further solicitation that telemarketing involves and in most cases, requires.
 
1991 i was a telemarketer while i was in college and i recall being really good at it, but they gave us a specific script to use and the rule of the "3 NOs": Never accept NO on the first or second time around. Make them say NO three times before conceding.
 
PuddleMonkey said:
How do you sleep at night knowing that 99% of the population wants you dead?



lol, what is this, some sort of self motivation shit?



If people NEED it they would have already come to you. I even rank infomercials above telemarketers, at least I have the option of not watching it.



We have plenty of snakes and snails here in the pacific northwest, we don't need anymore.



How is it the path of least resistance when it has probably the highest % of failure per opportunity?

all these statements show me you have absolutely zero entrepreneurial skills.

really? they would already come to me? how would they know my name? or my company? especially when there's hundreds of other's out there? if you're a small independent business...do you really have the advertising reserves to compete with a big name company? even then, it's not worth the money spent.Do you spend countless dollars on garbage advertising that brings a pour return on investment?

for the record, i have a great presentation including a direct mail piece i send out first...which is why people are hardly ever rude to me. I just call people and have conversations with them. The only people that are on my calling lists for either me or my junior brokers are people who NEED help in the very near future. They have to do something or else they're fucked.

path of least resistance....i'm talking about people. People(clients) will take the path of least resistance. it's very convenient to them if you sound good on the phone, and you have something they want. LMAO...again, you have no entrepeneurial skill if you think business can be attained without constant rejeciton. Even if you're paying someone to bring you leads or referrals, there will always be that factor.

btw, i can sleep very well at night when i'm making more money than 99% of people my age and lots of people older than me..and the fact that almost every single person i've ever done business with has had a genuine need for my service and i was able to better their lives. i can call almost any of my clients at anytime and talk to them like an old high school buddy...

it's prospecting....and you need to do it any business. fuck, you even need to do it with the wimminz. i.e. find out who's available, who's interested in what you have to offer, and who's the right fit.

the other thing i noticed is that there's always the automatic association with being unethical ? Give me a break. not everyone does business that way.it's not about forcing someone into buying something. it's about finding out who in the market for your service.. you can be genuine and convincing on the phone without being a scumbag. all you have to do sometimes is ask a question that makes a person really think about something.
 
calveless wonder said:
all these statements show me you have absolutely zero entrepreneurial skills.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

calveless wonder said:
really? they would already come to me? how would they know my name? or my company?

Yes, they would. They'd know your name from the standard advertising that would allow them to look you up or find your information in the phone book or on-line or elsewhere. And this way you're not harassing people who do not want to be bothered, or taking them away from doing their job (in my case posting on EF, I probably lost a good 2-3 posts because of those 3 calls this morning).

calveless wonder said:
if you're a small independent business...do you really have the advertising reserves to compete with a big name company? even then, it's not worth the money spent. Do you spend countless dollars on garbage advertising that brings a pour return on investment?

We don't advertise nor do we cold call people, we're a small independent company that has been around probably longer than you've been alive ('78). When people feel they have a need for what we do, they come to us.

calveless wonder said:
The only people that are on my calling lists for either me or my junior brokers are people who NEED help in the very near future. They have to do something or else they're fucked.

How do you know they need help, just curious.

calveless wonder said:
LMAO...again, you have no entrepeneurial skill if you think business can be attained without constant rejeciton.

Guess we've been doing something wrong for the past 30 years.

calveless wonder said:
btw, i can sleep very well at night when i'm making more money than 99% of people my age and lots of people older than me..

I'm doubting I'd be all that impressed with your money makin' entrepreneurial skillz. Nor would I be jealous.

calveless wonder said:
and the fact that almost every single person i've ever done business with has had a genuine need for my service and i was able to better their lives.

What the hell are you selling Corky?

calveless wonder said:
it's prospecting....and you need to do it any business.

Not true, maybe in the dirty business of telemarketing it's needed.

calveless wonder said:
all you have to do sometimes is ask a question that makes a person really think about something.

I await this question.
 
calveless wonder said:
I guess you can say i am...........but i never sound like one. It's not my only source of business, but it works and it's cheap.
and i usually fuck with the people i'm calling, especially if they're rude. you should see some of the responses i come up with, totally throws people out of their frame.

i just happen to make 5 digits most months when i'm consistent and working my balls off.
so call me whatever the fuck you want lol

i used to pay people to do it for me but now that the market is tougher it's more cost effective to do it alone.

if you think telemarketing sucks, you have zero business skills and zero balls. ZERO. It's all almost all fortune 500 companies have built their business. It's a cheap, effective way to get business and live contacts. Especially if you're selling something people NEED. Big investment firms, etc all have done the same shit. it's just a form of sales and a great place to start to build your clientele

Also a good way to train sales people...if you know 98-99% of the people you call will not want to do business with you, but you realize there are the 1-2% out there...you have to have serious balls and be very hungry. easy to see who will be a good salesman by throwing them on the phones for a few months

one more thing..the reason people still do it, is because it WORKS. The people who do business will always choose the path of least resistance, it's human nature. so if they actually have the need for a service or product, and you hit them at the right time...or appeal to their 1.) greed 2.) ego 3.) actual need...they will be able to be sold.


hahaha ..what a defensive telemarketer.
 
lolol...
point is you can believe whatever you want to believe or perceive whatever you want in your head.

socially programming is a funny thing and stops people from getting rich.
 
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