Anyone been on for longer than 6 months before?

[bigtravis]

i do three consecutive cycles that equal 44 weeks. and during my 8 week pct i still am doing var and t-bol.

 

[bigdho]

Good point, although I didn't run HCG throughout because my testes never really shrunk dramatically. I'm running it in the last three weeks now though, 1500iu every four to five days until last enanth shot alongside a-dex and nolv. I have read jenetic and drjmw's PCT posts on the other forum, it seems like this should be enough...or at least I would hope so.

I see. Id say if your commin off drjmws metheods are the best. It will be hard stayin off that long though, lol.

 

[Tux]

I was on 8 months straight before, varying doses and compounds but never very low-dose. Never ran HCG, just took 3 weeks of nolva and had bloodwork done. After 8 months on, 3 weeks of nolva got me to test levels of 972... I'd say pretty good lol, though naturally high test levels run in my family, along with crappy genes for size. So we're small, but very horny guys ( And NO, I didn't mean small down there, I mean height and build for any of you immature bastards thinking that!

 

[bluehen]

I know a lot of guys like NS and ulter never come off myself included. you cycle till you platue then you cut the dose and cruz for a few weeks then ramp back up with completly different gear and just keep going like that. A few of the guide lines are you pretty much dont go over 1500mg total ew, try to stay away from highly toxic compounds, run hcg through out @ 500iu 2xs ew, and get a blood test every four months. Thats a rough over view there are a few other things to it but you get the idea. IMO its easier on your body than comming off then getting back on every 3 months, I know I feel better and my gains are a lot better this way.

When you say you switch gear do you still keep test as a base?

 

[Slyder190]

Why would you have to be on HRT? HRT is for people whos testes have been shut down to long but if you run HCG through out the cycle your testes never shut down so that is a non issue. Im in my 20s too belive me I wouldnt do anything that would mess me up that bad. I didnt just come up with this way of cycling this is how I was told to cycle by my trainer who is a world class BBer named Phil Hernon. He handles every thing I do from diet to cycling and he asures me this is the best way to go.

I hear ya, but I would never wanna run HCG continuously throughout a cycle cuz I wouldn't wanna chance Leydig's Cells desensitization. For my upcoming cycle I'll be running HCG 3x a week for 1 week mid-cycle and 7-10 days at the end of my cycle. And I'm not a fan of HCH during PCT, it just prolongs recovery. Didn't our friend Dr. JMW turn out to be a dentist?

 

[BigCracker]

I think I've been off a total of 12-18 months in the past 18 years. The first 6 years I probably averaged around 500mg-1000mgs a week. After I started making more cash and competing seriously I started taking 1500mgs-3000mgs/wk along with GH/slin 3-4 months/yr. The last 6 years I haven't competed, nor could I justify blowing the extra cash and taking higher dosages cuz I just don't look that much better on 3000 mgs/wk than I do on 1000 mgs/wk. I spend that extra $$$ I don't put in my ass on other stuff I enjoy now like cars, motorcycles,guns, girls, etc. The longest I stayed completely off was about 4-5 months last year. I hold onto my weight pretty well since I'm naturally a fat ass, but I did lose a lot of hardness. I've been using 500mgs/wk-1000 mgs/wk for about 4 months now, but my physique still hasn't fully returned to what it was-but keep in mind I also haven't used any Clen,T3, or drastically reduced my carbs for the past 4 months either. I still trained daily as I always have, but I wasn't exactly throwing around the heavy weights like I used to.

As far as how I felt being off-need I say it? I felt like shit. The worst part was my joints-mainly my hips. Getting on/off the toilet was proving to be a real challenge. As far as my sex drive-I stopped thinking about ass about 10 wks after being off-which I have to admit was kinda nice not having to wonder where my next supply of ass was coming from. But at the same time, I didn't feel that good either. It was strange looking at a hot chick and a pizza and wanting the pizza more. After I went on this last time I started with about 400mgs/EQ and 600 mgs Supertest/wk and 1 A-50/day. After about 10 days I started to realize just how much I had lost and how shitty I actually felt the past 5 months I was clean. I guess I never realized how bad I looked and felt until I started feeling myself return back to what I once was? Going to the gym and dialing in my eats better really started sounding enjoyable again-instead of being a hassle like it started to the last couple months I was clean. I'm also a poon hound again-and a girl's tight ass looks like it might actually taste better than a pizza now. I don't plan on going off again anytime soon. I'll probably start cutting back on my carbs and using Clen/Tren/??? to get my hardness and vascularity back in another month or two. At age 37 my metabolism just isn't what it was 10 yrs ago, nor is my sex drive-but I guess that was to be expected juice or no juice. Getting older definitely sucks-thank God I can still fuck 23 yr old chicks without having to pay a hooker like most guys my age do. So I must not look/act like an old geezer yet.

Wait a minute-if I juiced almost 18 years straight, shouldn't I be dead by now?

 

[Nighthawkk]

I hear ya, but I would never wanna run HCG continuously throughout a cycle cuz I wouldn't wanna chance Leydig's Cells desensitization. For my upcoming cycle I'll be running HCG 3x a week for 1 week mid-cycle and 7-10 days at the end of my cycle. And I'm not a fan of HCH during PCT, it just prolongs recovery. Didn't our friend Dr. JMW turn out to be a dentist?

Whether or not some guy recommeding hcg doses is legit or not, I found that when I used small amounts before coming off moderate test doses, it did in fact speed up my recovery. Though I think for previous cycles it seemed that when my testes didn't shrink, I had just as good a recovery with just nolv/clomid (keeping in mind these were 12 weeks or less). I just think that if you go past 12 weeks it should just be a necessity...not necessarily large amounts, but even a few 500iu doses would be better than nothing IMHO.

 

[African_Triceps]

Unless your in major comps or have job related life in fitness... I'd take the time off, if you can mentally take it. Most of the people I know that don't cycle can't take the mentality of people seeing them smaller... And I actually think those people would be bigger if they did it.
I read many articles stating EQ can be ran at life long status without burning out, side effects etc.

 

[mrp3652]

Unless your in major comps or have job related life in fitness... I'd take the time off, if you can mentally take it. Most of the people I know that don't cycle can't take the mentality of people seeing them smaller... And I actually think those people would be bigger if they did it.
I read many articles stating EQ can be ran at life long status without burning out, side effects etc.

If you could post or pm me links to some of those studies I would appreciate it.

 

[Nighthawkk]

Unless your in major comps or have job related life in fitness... I'd take the time off, if you can mentally take it. Most of the people I know that don't cycle can't take the mentality of people seeing them smaller... And I actually think those people would be bigger if they did it.
I read many articles stating EQ can be ran at life long status without burning out, side effects etc.

I thought even EQ was suppressive. That would just lead to having to take more exogenous test which would again mean you are always "on".