"anterior capsular tear" ...just fabulous!

[THE GOOD SUN]

anybody have any experience with these shoulder injuries?

is surgery my only solution? ...or can i get away with just putting my arm in a sling for 6 weeks?

this fuckin' blowzzz!

 

[swordfish151]

What did your doc say?

 

[Neo22]

I'm wondering if anyone asks their doctors questions these days

 

[ninesecz]

I think you guys must be going alittle heavy when "on" have read a lot of posts lately about injurys.

 

[acneman]

I'm wondering if anyone asks their doctors questions these days

where do you think he got "anterior capsular tear" from you think he made it up
let me say this
doctors are not gods
an imformed patient is a patient who cares about his treatment
if you dont know any thing about it
why are you postin

sorry THE GOOD SUN i dont know any thing about it but if you hurt your elbow or back talk to me first
in the meantime me and Neo22will keep it bumped for ya

 

[Neo22]

where do you think he got "anterior capsular tear" from you think he made it up
let me say this
doctors are not gods
an imformed patient is a patient who cares about his treatment
if you dont know any thing about it
why are you postin

sorry THE GOOD SUN i dont know any thing about it but if you hurt your elbow or back talk to me first
in the meantime me and dumbass22 will keep it bumped for ya

Thats for him and his doctor to discuss as to how he tore it. You are not a doctor am I wrong? If a patient doesn't fully understand how or what he has done to his given bodypart he should seek an opinion. Not an opinion from a weightlifting forumn that is not full of medical professionals.

 

[acneman]

Thats for him and his doctor to discuss as to how he tore it. You are not a doctor am I wrong? If a patient doesn't fully understand how or what he has done to his given bodypart he should seek an opinion. Not an opinion from a weightlifting forumn that is not full of medical professionals.

ahh rational and calm.. im impressed and have edited my post.
now
no im not a doc but several post on this board
i dont think the cause of injury is in question.
the treatment is.
by giving the name of the injury that way, i am willing to bet he has seen a doctor.(ill put a thousand karma on it)
he didnt say "my shoulder hurts"
so hes seen his doc and has been advised surgery
does he need a second opinion from a doc
yes
always get a second opinion before going under the knife if your not sure

does it hurt to get opinions from people who engage in the same type of activity that caused the injury? no. i think its a good thing. the first time i hurt my back the doc said surgery
a guy i worked with told me to try chiropractic.
i tried it and was cured.
ive had people who were not docs advise me and when i asked my doc he said "well yeah, we can do that instead."

sorry i jumped
good sun ask away
i told ya we would keep it bumped for ya

just remember there are docs and there are docs
some are better than others

 

[THE GOOD SUN]

sorry for comin' back on so late but man i had to get the hell outta here ...kinda depressed with my news today

yes, i saw the doctor today ...or yesterday now
yes, Swordfish151, that is the injury "anterior capsular tear" as noted in my chart ...it's in the front of my left shoulder (i guess you win the bet Acneman)

yeah LOL, the cause is not in question ...most likey heavy inclines or militaries if i had to guess

prognosis is surgery followed by PT ...which would obviously put me down for a while and fuck up my planned TPP/NPP/SUSP cycle i had planned ...man, to bad, i was lookin' forward to that too!

i'm wondering if i just put it in a sling and really rest it for like 6 weeks???


NEO, do me a favor, if you don't have any imput then don't post cuz i'm lookin' for ideas or an answer if there is one ...not drama

 

[acneman]

sorry for comin' back on so late but man i had to get the hell outta here ...kinda depressed with my news today

yes, i saw the doctor today ...or yesterday now
yes, Swordfish151, that is the injury "anterior capsular tear" as noted in my chart ...it's in the front of my left shoulder (i guess you win the bet Acneman)

yeah LOL, the cause is not in question ...most likey heavy inclines or militaries if i had to guess

prognosis is surgery followed by PT ...which would obviously put me down for a while and fuck up my planned TPP/NPP/SUSP cycle i had planned ...man, to bad, i was lookin' forward to that too!

i'm wondering if i just put it in a sling and really rest it for like 6 weeks???


NEO, do me a favor, if you don't have any imput then don't post cuz i'm lookin' for ideas or an answer if there is one ...not drama

sorry brotha ill keep my rantin out of here

now
was it just a osteo doc or did you see a sports doc
some of those sports docs are really good at alternatives to long layoffs

 

[THE GOOD SUN]

sorry brotha ill keep my rantin out of here

now
was it just a osteo doc or did you see a sports doc
some of those sports docs are really good at alternatives to long layoffs

it's not you man! you were actually able to decipher what little i wrote

...and i haven't got to the "acceptance" stage yet soooo

yeah it was at the orthopedic clinic ...he said it wouldn't make a difference if i got the surgery right away or not??? ...lifting, he also said, is out of the question ...i was thinking of totally immobilizing it for like 6 weeks and see what that does and then if not ...sugery i guess

 

[acneman]

it's not you man! you were actually able to decipher what little i wrote

...and i haven't got to the "acceptance" stage yet soooo

yeah it was at the orthopedic clinic ...he said it wouldn't make a difference if i got the surgery right away or not??? ...lifting, he also said, is out of the question ...i was thinking of totally immobilizing it for like 6 weeks and see what that does and then if not ...sugery i guess

dont do anything till u talk to another doc
i saw to docs almost get in a fist fight argueing over a diagnosis
get your xrays or mri or whatever from ur doc andtake it to the best sports doc you can find
just a conseltation should be inexpensive if he dosent have to redo the tests. tell him if you need surgery your goin with the first doc.
if he says surgery too knowing he wont get the money for it (remember thats where they get the real money)
id seriously consider it

 

[NickyE3]

it's not you man! you were actually able to decipher what little i wrote

...and i haven't got to the "acceptance" stage yet soooo

yeah it was at the orthopedic clinic ...he said it wouldn't make a difference if i got the surgery right away or not??? ...lifting, he also said, is out of the question ...i was thinking of totally immobilizing it for like 6 weeks and see what that does and then if not ...sugery i guess

It does make a difference when you get your surgery done, if you have torn something then scar tissue will form. The longer you wait the more scar tissue is present and makes it more difficult to operate on.
Immobilizing it for 6 weeks wont do the trick, you will have to physical therapy no matter what.
I had a labrum/SLAP lesion repair. Called a Bankart surgery - from a dislocated shoulder. Had my shoulder in a sling for 2 weeks after the accident. The ER doc said I should be fine after that. TERRIBLE FUCKING E.R. DOC. Went for the surgury and glad I did. Shoulder is not quite normal but it is the best that it could be from what happened. Now i got three of these babies in my right shoulder:
http://www.ori.org.au/bonejoint/shoulder/images/fig8e.jpg

Take a look over this site, see if this pertains to your injury or not.
http://www.ori.org.au/bonejoint/shoulder/surgery.htm

 

[immortalis]

Shoulder injuries are a bitch. Unfortuantely for me, im fairly experienced in the field of injuries... cause im pretty god damn injury prone. I swear I think ive fucked up every body part I have at some point or another. However from my experiences with various shoulder injuries they seem to take forever to recoup from. So i dont know if you'd just be wasting your time if you slung it up for 6 weeks.

Id get a second opinion as advised above first.

 

[THE GOOD SUN]

It does make a difference when you get your surgery done, if you have torn something then scar tissue will form. The longer you wait the more scar tissue is present and makes it more difficult to operate on.
Immobilizing it for 6 weeks wont do the trick, you will have to physical therapy no matter what.
I had a labrum/SLAP lesion repair. Called a Bankart surgery - from a dislocated shoulder. Had my shoulder in a sling for 2 weeks after the accident. The ER doc said I should be fine after that. TERRIBLE FUCKING E.R. DOC. Went for the surgury and glad I did. Shoulder is not quite normal but it is the best that it could be from what happened. Now i got three of these babies in my right shoulder:
http://www.ori.org.au/bonejoint/shoulder/images/fig8e.jpg

Take a look over this site, see if this pertains to your injury or not.
http://www.ori.org.au/bonejoint/shoulder/surgery.htm

you know i did think that it was a bit odd that he would say it did not matter if i had the surgery now or in 6 months ...maybe i should go see another doctor but what are they gonna tell me different?
"ahhhh yup ...it's torn" and "ahhhh yup surgery is the way to fix it"

i didn't sleep very much last night thinking about what all this meant ...i mean no matter what i can't lift ...no matter what looks like surgery is the only right way to fix it

so how long did it take you to recover from your surgery?
can you still train/lift hard?
basically were you ever the same?

 

[THE GOOD SUN]

However from my experiences with various shoulder injuries they seem to take forever to recoup from. So i dont know if you'd just be wasting your time if you slung it up for 6 weeks.
QUOTE]

ok ok ...sooo what if i sling it up for 10 weeks
AND
spot inject 10iu of GH a day
AND
put a heating pad on it ...LOL ...i'm just screwed

 

[NickyE3]

so how long did it take you to recover from your surgery?

I had 9 or 10 months of physical therapy.

can you still train/lift hard?

Ya I can lift as hard as I want. Just have problems with going all the way down on bench, flyes with dumbells, dips, and squats (due the the hand/shoulder position).

basically were you ever the same?

I can't throw a baseball like I used to. I would have to throw everyday for a very long time to get back to where i was. My surgery was only suppose to be 1-2 hours, it ended up being a little over 4. My injury was pretty serious. One of my buddy had a similiar surgury to mine but his was not as serious. His was done arthroscopically (with three small incisions) and he is back to normail, playing football for KU.

 

[solidspine]

The capsule won’t heal as fast as normal tissue, so surgery is your best or rather,

Only


Option, recovery is depended upon, the tear, the surgeon, your age, and if you re- injure yourself.


No easy way out of this one.

 

[THE GOOD SUN]

thank you for the reponses fellas

...any thoughts on GH to speed recovery?

 

[Neo22]

sorry for comin' back on so late but man i had to get the hell outta here ...kinda depressed with my news today

yes, i saw the doctor today ...or yesterday now
yes, Swordfish151, that is the injury "anterior capsular tear" as noted in my chart ...it's in the front of my left shoulder (i guess you win the bet Acneman)

yeah LOL, the cause is not in question ...most likey heavy inclines or militaries if i had to guess

prognosis is surgery followed by PT ...which would obviously put me down for a while and fuck up my planned TPP/NPP/SUSP cycle i had planned ...man, to bad, i was lookin' forward to that too!

i'm wondering if i just put it in a sling and really rest it for like 6 weeks???


NEO, do me a favor, if you don't have any imput then don't post cuz i'm lookin' for ideas or an answer if there is one ...not drama

instead of being a dick, how about leave us with a little more information next time? Is that too hard to do? I've had a torn shoulder before so I have a lot of good feedback I can give you.

Ok now that your not being a dick, if you put it in a sling its still not gonna help. You need surgery as its your best bet, find a doc you are comfortable with. You will have to wear a sling after surgery but only till you go to physcial therapy, make sure they do a TON of internal and external stretching with the capsule. Lay off the juice for quite sometime. You will jump back super fast after you recover.

 

[acneman]

instead of being a dick, how about leave us with a little more information next time? Is that too hard to do? I've had a torn shoulder before so I have a lot of good feedback I can give you.
.

im not sayin this to fight with you
but it seems to me that that resposne from the good sun is a lot more polite than most would have given you

if i was sittin there in pain and typin one handed and got your post on my thread i would have been quite rude
hell i was more rude to you that he was and you came back calm and made me feel kinda petty
what gives????

 

[SwolK]

sorry to hear about that. i have had 2 shoulder operations.
the first one was a labrium/slap tear sa nickye3 had. my was not quite as extensive as his. i have one anchor(metal tie) in there holding it together. It was a long recovery, as im assuming yours will be too. I was out of the gym for a year. my second surgury the doc just cut a lot of bone away. i was back in the gym in 2 months going light.

when they just cut bone away, it is a lot faster recovery then when they have to repair cartiliage. The repair usually has to scar into place, which takes a long time.

sorry for the bad news, as i have been there 6 times in total(2 with soulder). but I would get the surgury done asap if it were me

 

[THE GOOD SUN]

instead of being a dick, how about leave us with a little more information next time? Is that too hard to do? I've had a torn shoulder before so I have a lot of good feedback I can give you.

Ok now that your not being a dick, if you put it in a sling its still not gonna help. You need surgery as its your best bet, find a doc you are comfortable with. You will have to wear a sling after surgery but only till you go to physcial therapy, make sure they do a TON of internal and external stretching with the capsule. Lay off the juice for quite sometime. You will jump back super fast after you recover.

listen bro, your first response was "I'm wondering if anyone asks their doctors questions these days"
...i mean what kind of a response is that???

"anterior capsular tear
anybody have any experience with these shoulder injuries?
is surgery my only solution? ...or can i get away with just putting my arm in a sling for 6 weeks?"

...so what info missing again??? ...and how was i being a dick if all i did was ask you not to post if you didn't have any imput ...and geee, after reading your first 2 posts where would i get the idea that you didn't have any imput ...hmmmmmmmmmm?

i don't understand ...if you had a torn shoulder before and you had alot of good feedback you could've given me, then when didn't you just say so and give it to me? ...see to me that makes YOU A DICK

...you, of all people should have been able to sympathize with me

you didn't have shit! ...all you did was regurgitate what the other good bros in here had already stated ...ummmm gee thanks?

...so for originality you get a zero
...and for being a cocksucker you get


a sincere thank you to the rest of you!

 

[acneman]

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to THE GOOD SUN again.

 

[Neo22]

listen bro, your first response was "I'm wondering if anyone asks their doctors questions these days"
...i mean what kind of a response is that???

"anterior capsular tear
anybody have any experience with these shoulder injuries?
is surgery my only solution? ...or can i get away with just putting my arm in a sling for 6 weeks?"

...so what info missing again??? ...and how was i being a dick if all i did was ask you not to post if you didn't have any imput ...and geee, after reading your first 2 posts where would i get the idea that you didn't have any imput ...hmmmmmmmmmm?

i don't understand ...if you had a torn shoulder before and you had alot of good feedback you could've given me, then when didn't you just say so and give it to me? ...see to me that makes YOU A DICK

...you, of all people should have been able to sympathize with me

you didn't have shit! ...all you did was regurgitate what the other good bros in here had already stated ...ummmm gee thanks?

...so for originality you get a zero
...and for being a cocksucker you get


a sincere thank you to the rest of you!

apparently you can't even read your own posts.

YOUR FIRST POST
anybody have any experience with these shoulder injuries?

is surgery my only solution? ...or can i get away with just putting my arm in a sling for 6 weeks?

this fuckin' blowzzz!

Does it say anywhere you have gone to a doctor to get an opnion? How were we to know you hadn't gone on a website like most people do to check for symptoms of what they have and match them up with an injury? Maybe go back to highschool or college and see if they have classes on communication. Hows that for cocksucker you slimfisted cumchugger!

 

[acneman]

apparently you can't even read your own posts.

YOUR FIRST POST
anybody have any experience with these shoulder injuries?

is surgery my only solution? ...or can i get away with just putting my arm in a sling for 6 weeks?

this fuckin' blowzzz!

Does it say anywhere you have gone to a doctor to get an opnion? How were we to know you hadn't gone on a website like most people do to check for symptoms of what they have and match them up with an injury? Maybe go back to highschool or college and see if they have classes on communication. Hows that for cocksucker you slimfisted cumchugger!

ill take this one good sun

if you include THE TITLE OF THE THREAD YOU IDIOT it reads like this

"anterior capsular tear" ...just fabulous!
anybody have any experience with these shoulder injuries?

is surgery my only solution? ...or can i get away with just putting my arm in a sling for 6 weeks?

this fuckin' blowzzz!

as i said thr first time i responded to you
do you think he made that diagnosis up???????????
geez man
let it go
he wasnt bein very rude to you in my opinion
why did you even post
tryn to get your post count up?????????
if you wanna trade insults???? im game
go to anywhere else ive posted and take a shot there
leave this post alone before i put my foot up your narra ass
^^^^^there how is that dumbass^^^^^^^^
is that rude enough
get a life internet tuff guy

 

[NickyE3]

good stuff acneman

 

[Neo22]

ill take this one good sun

if you include THE TITLE OF THE THREAD YOU IDIOT it reads like this



as i said thr first time i responded to you
do you think he made that diagnosis up???????????
geez man
let it go
he wasnt bein very rude to you in my opinion
why did you even post
tryn to get your post count up?????????
if you wanna trade insults???? im game
go to anywhere else ive posted and take a shot there
leave this post alone before i put my foot up your narra ass
^^^^^there how is that dumbass^^^^^^^^
is that rude enough
get a life internet tuff guy

i dont know what the fuck you are talking about. But who is stupid enough to not get a second opinion from an orthopedic surgeon? Is he that unintelligent that he has to ask us? If he asked those with this problem how was surgery and what kind did you get it would be totally different. I don't give two shits about your opinion, its the fucking internet. Post count? WTF ya I've been on here longer than you ever will, you just registered like 2 months ago and are baggin on me for 800 posts in over 2 years? LMFAO. Talk about internet douchedragon LMFAO You want to trade insults? You better come up with something better than that you cumburping gutterslut

 

[Neo22]

good stuff acneman

let the sackriding begin!

 

[PWTurbofan]

let the sackriding begin!

aw shit, there's alot of hatin going on in these here parts. it makes me want to go and love my left hand right now.

 

[needtogetaas]

I think you guys must be going alittle heavy when "on" have read a lot of posts lately about injurys.

yup

 

[acneman]

But who is stupid enough to not get a second opinion from an orthopedic surgeon? Is he that unintelligent that he has to ask us? ya I've been on here longer than you ever will, you just registered like 2 months ago and are baggin on me for 800 posts in over 2 years? LMFAO. Talk about internet douchedragon LMFAO You want to trade insults? You better come up with something better than that you cumburping gutterslut

ah here we go good
number 1
HE never said he wasnt going to get a second opinion dumbass
I SAID to get one just in case he didnt want to. i assumed he would but wanted to make sure.
i was on here longer my first go round than you have now
and i really hate to mention it again(yeah right)
but i wrote an article for this board that is posted on over 20 other bodybuilding sites and boards and has been translated into russian and dutch.
what the fuck have you ever done
post links to your wisdom asswipe

if your 800 posts in 2 years are on par with what youve put on this thread then you are the stupidist cock on this board

your constant insults pertaining to homosexuality bore me
there are a lot of better people on this board than you that are actually homosexual. who cares.
your anger is a poor representation of the members of this board
i got on your ass, yeah and then apologized. i was a little quick to jump. but you.... damn dude what is your problem. you should have left this thread alone or apologized for an ill thought out post and we would all be friends. but perhaps that scares you homophobe.
so go ahead with the gay jokes dickhead because you will never beat the insult im about to lay on you brotha

POSER!

 

[needtogetaas]

iam thinking some one is going to get bombed in this thread.eny meeny miny moe.lol

 

[NickyE3]

iam thinking some one is going to get bombed in this thread.eny meeny miny moe.lol

not surprised by this at all
LOL

 

[NickyE3]

the kids needs surgery, PERIOD!
Lets just leave it at that, unless anymore peeps have experience with shoulder-related injuries.

 

[THE GOOD SUN]

Does it say anywhere you have gone to a doctor to get an opnion? How were we to know you hadn't gone on a website like most people do to check for symptoms of what they have and match them up with an injury? Maybe go back to highschool or college and see if they have classes on communication. Hows that for cocksucker you slimfisted cumchugger!

i never asked for a diagnosis??? and if everyone else was able to figure that out ...and you're so intelligent ...then why couldn't you?

also never said i was opposed to a second opinion ...shit i just got the news last thursday (post #8) ...the only thing i said that would be even remotely related is what i said in post #14 about what's another Dr. gonna say ...there's no question that it is a tear and there's no question that surgery is the way to fix it ...the sad conclusion i've come to is it's kinda like having a broken bone, you can go to every hospital in town but it's still gonna be a broken bone and a cast is still gonna be the way to fix it.

NEO, you're thoughts are like scattered particles of debris that you keep tripping on ...you make no sense.

"How were we to know you hadn't gone on a website like most people do to check for symptoms of what they have and match them up with an injury?"
...are you kidding me? ...is that what you do? ...WOW! now you're really grabbin' at straws!

can't you see that your logic is weak and you're rational is that of child ...it's an obvious case of desperation, but you're only making a bigger ass of yourself the more you go on ...and if you don't believe me reread the thread ...i mean who do you think you're fooling? ...everybody that reads it is gonna see the same thing ...what do think they're idiots? ...they're comin' down on you for a reason ...too bad you can't even see it ...now what are you gonna do go back and edit everything you said?

and look at you tryin' to "boss up" on anybody ...who do you think you are?
...NEO? ...like in the matrix? ...LMAO you must be after some kind of SCI-FI super adventure here too huh?
umm hello??? morphius?? ...FLMAO!
hey i got an idea ...pick up a phone, and transport youself outta this thread ...you're probably sittin' around in your Dbol underoos, under a fort you made with your teletubby blankets writing this garbage and thinkin' you're actually getting somewhere ...but it's all just in your imagination ...i know your kind, you're the screaming, spandex wearin' ass clown in the gym, with a bad case of invisible lat syndrome, that just has to style their hair to go work out and buys all their shit @ GNC ...you got some nerve!

look, i know you need a friend but this is not the way

and just FYI ...nodody likes an internet toughguy ...OK diperman

...now BEAT IT!