5X5 or this "other" workout for a newb?

[Guinness5.0]

I STRONGLY recommend spacing out your weights. You're very clos to your top set weights by set 3. Yes it'll make it easier for the short term. But long term you will keep the PR string going for months. The whole point of it is to get those core lifts up nice and quick, with the total workloads (pounds moved) moderate. Trust me on this - you will "speed up by slowing down'

Hope that helps some. And listen to biggt. Smart mofo right there. All your training will be great for strength but useless for size if you don't eat.

 

[lilpumper]

is there a normal time length to run the 5x5? im guessing it all depends on goals and individual progression but im not for sure. thanks

 

[ngates0516]

yea today, I started to space them out a little further, put about 15-20 pounds between each sets. on bench I stuck with 10 though. by next week or the week after hopefully I'll be at my max's, but we'll see. I didnt try to figure my max's out before hand because I didnt have a spotter in case of failure. so I just guessed.

 

[asdfzxcv]

is there a normal time length to run the 5x5? im guessing it all depends on goals and individual progression but im not for sure. thanks

With the single factor version you basically run it as long as you can in order to get maximum progression until you need to use the periodised version to progress further.The linear/non-periodized version of the 5x5 could probably be used for 6-12months before switching over to the periodized one,maybe even more.

hope this helps

 

[Protobuilder]

biggT's laying it down all over this forum today! Great advice.

BTW Glenn Pendlay has discussed that the SF 5x5 can describe a year or two of training for some people if they are able to coach themselves well enough to keep progression going w/ out totally changing the program (obviously some minor changes have to be made to keep progress going).

 

[Madcow2]

is there a normal time length to run the 5x5? im guessing it all depends on goals and individual progression but im not for sure. thanks

I don't care what program you are on or whether it's rubbing a frog on your nuts followed by intense prayer while sitting on a 45lbs plate - if it is allowing you to increase your squat, row, press, and pull (dead/clean/etc..) on a consistent basis, you do it until it stops working.

 

[Madcow2]

I've been doing the 5x5 for about 2 weeks now, I'm liking it. But i've been working out by myself, since I have no one to lift with because of school/work. SNIP

Oh my God. So basically, it's a choice between a solid viable program and the type of stupid, know nothing about programing, everything and the kitchen sink, 1x default frequency, no plan for progression, go in and hope to get better for your effort style program that I've specifically been trying to put a stop to and give people a fighting chance. Those programs are responsible for most of the people on the anabolic board and all the guys plateaued at 6' 180lbs with "perfect training and diet".

It's late so I'll just slam it like everyone else. It sucks. There is no thought and understanding behind it. It is a routine and not a program. It might work for you and do something (crazier things have produced results - even good results) but it won't be anywhere near optimal.

Like Biggt, train your way. Get your squat, bench, row, and dead up - eat a good amount of food and let him ask you about your program 3 months from now.

 

[RipStone]

I compleyley agree with what everyone has been telling you so far....stick with SF 5x5. Look at it this way....do a PROGRAM that has been around for 20+ years and is made by one of the best strength coaches of all time(Bill Starr) or do a ROUTINE that one of your buddies threw together, maybe with the help of some BS roided up Flex mag......your choice man...

 

[ngates0516]

lol...I never thought of doing that program...I planned on sticking with the 5X5, I just told him that I asked alot of questions before picking a program, and went with the 5X5, and I asked him to switch over and do the 5X5, and hes like well maybe, then he sent me his program, and it didnt look that good to me. and i made this thread knowing most people would bash that workout, so then i could show him and he'd switch...thanks guys, and thanks for the tips about the 5x5 too.

 

[Madcow2]

LOL - glad we just came out and slammed it then. Ussually I try to be a bit more polite since a lot of people don't know what garbage is and when you tell them it's horrendous you kind of hurt their self esteem. For your purpose though, it seems to be perfect.