21yr old from my gym...DEAD!

[galaxy]

Did the kid die suddenly? Or did he get sick with the enlarged heart?

Suddenly...however Fri the day before death he did complain that he didnt feel well.......galaxy

 

[Citruscide]

Re: Uh....

May not be relevant to your case, but that defense does exist....it's called ASSUMPTION OF RISK.

Gear users should know that it comes with inherent dangers. We get the stuff illegally, we use it without a doctor's supervisions, we know there are risks of side effects from use. Even with the best efforts to educate ourselves and be careful, those risks still exist.

So, someone who does stupid things is assuming the risk of the consequences. The supplier of goods should not be liable for the resulting harm.

You missed the entire point of the sarcasm in my post.

But I agree with you.

C-ditty

 

[bodybuild]

Somebody metioned Milos Sarcev

I was at the checkout line the other day thumbing through the latest "Flex." I flipped to an interview with Milos Sarcev. The interviewer asked why Milos had not competed in the 2000 Olympia. Milos said that he was shooting Synthol into his triceps when the needle slipped and went into a vein. The Synthol quickly went into his heart and he had to be rushed to the hospital. He said that he came very close to dying.

Milos was one of the few professional bodybuilders that I actually liked. He has symmetry as well as size. He also seems quite a bit more intelligent than many of the pros. Well, any respect I had for him is now gone.

Synthol is some nasty stuff. Obviously injecting it into your veins is not a good idea, but if you inject it into the muscle it will ultimately end up in the blood, albeit at a slower rate. If you didn't already know, then you know now.

 

[galaxy]

Do I believe his heart just exploded.NO. Do I think steroids played a part. YES. Thus, I cant say steroids wont kill you. They may. You may have an underlying physical condition that steroids will bring on faster.I just try to look at things intelligently. I could put blinders on, but I wont.

 

[[email protected]]

Yea, 200 lbs isnt even a monster...there were prob some recreational drugs involved too or a prexisting condition. Even so at 21 you havent even lived 1/3 of your life. I read on T-Mag a couple months ago about a top NPC new england bodybuilder who died at 23..sad to see them go so young.

200 lbs. at 5'6" and ripped is pretty good size bro.

 

[powerlord]

You know I've thought about this alot,a skydiver will jump out of a perfectly good plane knowing that he may die,and sometimes they do,same with a Nascar driver,drag racer,scuba diver,the list goes on,bodybuilders fit in the same thrill seeker category as these other professions,you have to be safe as you possibly can to have a long career in this game or any of these others.Being excited and scared at the same time is what brings thrill seekers into the game they choose,sacrifice for success!!!

 

[biteme]

Seems like it's an aberration, but it does happen. I knew a girl whose boyfriend died while on a cycle. He was 25 and had a heart attack. My guess is that he had a pre-existing condition that he was unaware of that the AS may have aggravated.

 

[georgie24]

my chest ALWAYS hurts and uncomfortable while on cycle. time to chill and get echo and ekg. i was always nursing left side of chest due to pains and discomfort. while i trained i get dizzy and dizzier and dizzier.....it sucked

 

[DIVISION]

Died Saturday of enlarged heart. Had been abusing steroids for 2 yrs. Was about 5'6" at 200lbs and pretty ripped. My feeling is that this kid lived in the fast lane and abused alot of things. Also, I think this was probably a pre exisiting condition. Obviously the juice didnt help it and people are going to automatically point to steroids. I know he abused 17aa orals alot...Any way, the father wants the police to pursue the issue. wants to know where he got it from. This is just another good reason why you only help yourself out and never admit to anyone that you juice. You never want your name popping up somewhere.

I am almost certain that it was the pre-existing condition that was the downfall of this young man. At 21 there are so many possibilities, but AAS don't seem to me to correlate with early death. It too vague really to speculate on what it COULD be; but it's a shame that his father is crusading against AAS. A father's eternal guilt over his son's premature death can cause problems for so many of us now.

DIV

 

[androjunkie]

I lost my best friend last year at 22yrs old. I've mentioned this before on here before. Autopsy reports said that he had an enlarged ventricle(of course). He only used moderate doses on cycles and only juiced for a few years. He was 6'0" 247lbs@ 8-9%bf. Strong mofo too. Squatted 500+lbs benched 440lbs,etc.

He did abuse a lot of different rec drugs including coke which he used on and off for many years. I still don't know the exact cause of death but it was either a heartattack or anuerysm. I was told by his brother that when they found him he had blood coming out of his nose and ears. He had been deceased for 2 days before they discovered him in his house. What does that sound like to you guys? Anuerysm?

I wish I knew what it was specifically. It worries me a lot, especially lately because I'm experiencing some of the same things he did before he passed. I'm not saying I'm dying but I've been feeling very fucked up for the past week. I went to the doc today to request complete blood work done, so hopefully I'll know something by Friday. The doc seemed worried when I told him my symptoms so that didn't make me feel all warm and fuzzy. I really hope its nothing.