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TOne096384

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Hello guys 👋🏻. Not exactly new to gear but I'm having a hard time deciding on my next cycle and just seeking some input specifically in wether I should use Deca or EQ. I've ran Test, Deca,Tren in the past at 600,300,100 for 10 weeks. Im planning on pushing hard this year and specifically getting my SBD up. Anyone had any good experience with strength and size increases running Eq over Deca? I'm open to any advise.

Planned Cycle 10 weeks
Test-600/wk
Eq-200/wk
Tren-200/wk

If anyone has any orals/injectables to run at the end of my cycle before I peak in my program for max attempts, I'm open to trying anything.
 
TOne096384 said:
Hello guys 👋🏻. Not exactly new to gear but I'm having a hard time deciding on my next cycle and just seeking some input specifically in wether I should use Deca or EQ. I've ran Test, Deca,Tren in the past at 600,300,100 for 10 weeks. Im planning on pushing hard this year and specifically getting my SBD up. Anyone had any good experience with strength and size increases running Eq over Deca? I'm open to any advise.

Planned Cycle 10 weeks
Test-600/wk
Eq-200/wk
Tren-200/wk

If anyone has any orals/injectables to run at the end of my cycle before I peak in my program for max attempts, I'm open to trying anything.
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welcome to EF fam bro
@TOne096384 we cant help you choose soemthing we dont know anything about u bro right
you cycle before or what? you got a log?
 
TOne096384 said:
Hello guys 👋🏻. Not exactly new to gear but I'm having a hard time deciding on my next cycle and just seeking some input specifically in wether I should use Deca or EQ. I've ran Test, Deca,Tren in the past at 600,300,100 for 10 weeks. Im planning on pushing hard this year and specifically getting my SBD up. Anyone had any good experience with strength and size increases running Eq over Deca? I'm open to any advise.

Planned Cycle 10 weeks
Test-600/wk
Eq-200/wk
Tren-200/wk

If anyone has any orals/injectables to run at the end of my cycle before I peak in my program for max attempts, I'm open to trying anything.
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@TOne096384 you can always add an oral if you want to finish out maybe some Winstrol or some Anavar. Those are popular options.
 
TOne096384 said:
Hello guys 👋🏻. Not exactly new to gear but I'm having a hard time deciding on my next cycle and just seeking some input specifically in wether I should use Deca or EQ. I've ran Test, Deca,Tren in the past at 600,300,100 for 10 weeks. Im planning on pushing hard this year and specifically getting my SBD up. Anyone had any good experience with strength and size increases running Eq over Deca? I'm open to any advise.

Planned Cycle 10 weeks
Test-600/wk
Eq-200/wk
Tren-200/wk

If anyone has any orals/injectables to run at the end of my cycle before I peak in my program for max attempts, I'm open to trying anything.
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Bros, why not do some Proviron? It's a good option. Always makes the cycle work better.
 
TOne096384 said:
Hello guys 👋🏻. Not exactly new to gear but I'm having a hard time deciding on my next cycle and just seeking some input specifically in wether I should use Deca or EQ. I've ran Test, Deca,Tren in the past at 600,300,100 for 10 weeks. Im planning on pushing hard this year and specifically getting my SBD up. Anyone had any good experience with strength and size increases running Eq over Deca? I'm open to any advise.

Planned Cycle 10 weeks
Test-600/wk
Eq-200/wk
Tren-200/wk

If anyone has any orals/injectables to run at the end of my cycle before I peak in my program for max attempts, I'm open to trying anything.
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Competitors will usually like to run things toward the end of the cycle to really tighten things up. @TOne096384 if you have a date or something in mind, like a vacation where you really want to look best, that's when you can really add some winstrol to the finish.
 
TOne096384 said:
Hello guys 👋🏻. Not exactly new to gear but I'm having a hard time deciding on my next cycle and just seeking some input specifically in wether I should use Deca or EQ. I've ran Test, Deca,Tren in the past at 600,300,100 for 10 weeks. Im planning on pushing hard this year and specifically getting my SBD up. Anyone had any good experience with strength and size increases running Eq over Deca? I'm open to any advise.

Planned Cycle 10 weeks
Test-600/wk
Eq-200/wk
Tren-200/wk

If anyone has any orals/injectables to run at the end of my cycle before I peak in my program for max attempts, I'm open to trying anything.
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Hey brother, EQ and Deca are not interchangeable and play two completely different roles in cycle design.

A good portion of your performance is going to come from adequate and properly programmed nutrition and training programming specific to strength progression.

Give me a rundown on each?

Test base is a great place to start, and tren has its own place in a strength program though I'm not sure if the strength increase from calcium mobilization is dose-dependent or if there is an upper limit. In any case, less is more is generally the approach with Tren.


EQ may be the way to go here over Deca as it'll keep your e2 in check, and stacking 19-nor's is generally pretty unfavorable, but you need to get guidance getting the dose and timing right as it can crush your e2 if you're not careful and it has a very long ester.
 
Ulter said:
Competitors will usually like to run things toward the end of the cycle to really tighten things up. @TOne096384 if you have a date or something in mind, like a vacation where you really want to look best, that's when you can really add some winstrol to the finish.
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Yes, I'm on program for 5 months and Ill be in my peaking block in June. Max attempts on the the 6th. What do you recommend the dosage at? I've ran winstrol in the past at 25 and 50mg
 
Coach R. AP said:
Hey brother, EQ and Deca are not interchangeable and play two completely different roles in cycle design.

A good portion of your performance is going to come from adequate and properly programmed nutrition and training programming specific to strength progression.

Give me a rundown on each?

Test base is a great place to start, and tren has its own place in a strength program though I'm not sure if the strength increase from calcium mobilization is dose-dependent or if there is an upper limit. In any case, less is more is generally the approach with Tren.


EQ may be the way to go here over Deca as it'll keep your e2 in check, and stacking 19-nor's is generally pretty unfavorable, but you need to get guidance getting the dose and timing right as it can crush your e2 if you're not careful and it has a very long ester.
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I completely agree with you. I started in the gym with powerlifting and after a year of messing around on my own I got a powerlifting coach that trained me for 2 years. Taught me the importance of properly fulling my body with good food and proper nutrition.

Been into the sport for 5 years before I made the switch over to bodybuilding where I started dipping my toes into using gear. I've ran everything from test alone to var, deca, tren and multiple other orals. Now 3 years in I've been getting the itch to get back into powerlifting since I'm at the best I've been physically and mentally.

I'll be running a bridge block to get myself ready and then I'll be doing a 3 month program with hypertrophy, strength and my peaking phases being dedicated to one month each. And yes I really want to get some guidance on what to run and when I should be implementing anything into my program since this will be the first time I train on a program with adding gear to the mix
 
TOne096384 said:
I do not have a log. I've been looking around the forums and I see some people have a tag as approved log. Is that what you are referring to?
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yup thats the one, you gotta get a log up bro
EF fam can help you dial in post training nutrition log
@TOne096384

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?
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click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
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example: My Training Nutrition Prep Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

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Weeks 1-7
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I AM ON TRT for past 4 years or more.
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TOne096384 said:
Hello guys 👋🏻. Not exactly new to gear but I'm having a hard time deciding on my next cycle and just seeking some input specifically in wether I should use Deca or EQ. I've ran Test, Deca,Tren in the past at 600,300,100 for 10 weeks. Im planning on pushing hard this year and specifically getting my SBD up. Anyone had any good experience with strength and size increases running Eq over Deca? I'm open to any advise.

Planned Cycle 10 weeks
Test-600/wk
Eq-200/wk
Tren-200/wk

If anyone has any orals/injectables to run at the end of my cycle before I peak in my program for max attempts, I'm open to trying anything.
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@TOne096384 looking really good on this. The testosterone 600 mg/week, Equipoints 200 mg/week, and Tren 200 mg/week is a pretty good cycle. Especially if you like testosterone but I would definitely be using an AI with that.
 
TOne096384 said:
Hello guys 👋🏻. Not exactly new to gear but I'm having a hard time deciding on my next cycle and just seeking some input specifically in wether I should use Deca or EQ. I've ran Test, Deca,Tren in the past at 600,300,100 for 10 weeks. Im planning on pushing hard this year and specifically getting my SBD up. Anyone had any good experience with strength and size increases running Eq over Deca? I'm open to any advise.

Planned Cycle 10 weeks
Test-600/wk
Eq-200/wk
Tren-200/wk

If anyone has any orals/injectables to run at the end of my cycle before I peak in my program for max attempts, I'm open to trying anything.
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It's going to be a good cycle for 10 weeks for sure. I like the testosterone, equipoise, and tren. It's a really good option. @TOne096384
 
TOne096384 said:
What would you recommend the dosage at??
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Bros, you can always start at 10 milligrams and work your way up if you want. Some people use up to 50 milligrams but I think somewhere in the middle is best.
 
TOne096384 said:
Yes, I'm on program for 5 months and Ill be in my peaking block in June. Max attempts on the the 6th. What do you recommend the dosage at? I've ran winstrol in the past at 25 and 50mg
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right around there, 25-50 mg is fine. Some people go to 75, but I don't think it's necessary here.
 
TOne096384 said:
I've tried both winstorl and anavar together on my previous cycle when I dialed in for a cut. Ran both at 50mg daily each for 6 weeks. Would I run either at higher doses if I were to add it at the end of cycle?
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Did you get bloods by any chance? Id imagine you were fully cooked after 6 weeks
 
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