PCT additions

[jmj]

OK fellas- I know there have been an infinite number of posts about PCT. I realize that it is ultimately an individual's physiological make-up that allows him to respond better (or worse) than another to a particular regimen of PCT.
For this reason alone, wouldn't if make sense to throw everything you could into PCT? Especially if you weren't positive what worked and what didn't? I have gambled in the past and have lost too much hard earned muscle.
In addition to the traditional HCG, Clomid, Nolvadex, and Arimidex, why wouldn't someone choose to use something like herbs to maximize their potential to recover? Taking it one step further, if you were completely informed and educated on the use of insulin, why wouldn't you use it in your post cycle regimen with creatine and the appropriate ratio of macronutrients. Don't flame me. I know slin use is serious business, that is why I stressed
completely informed on its utilization.
Ultimately, I have been frustrated in the past with gains that have been lost due to inadequate PCT. Any and all thougts on this post are appreciated. Just trying to provoke somemore thought on this topic.

 

[MMAfighter]

wouldn't insulin in a low test state lead to fat gain?

 

[jmj]

Bump it up for some thoughts

 

[Nelson Montana]

Certain herbs can be very useful, both as an aid to drug therepy, and in some cases as the sole PCT. Certain dtugs like Clomid and Nolva can give estogenic side effects and anti-e's like A-dex can be dangerous in high dosges.

 

[DJ_UFO]

Nelson what was your experience and comment with 6-OXO?
could be a PCT of herbs plus a bottle of 6-oxo?

 

[Ashamed]

high levels of cholesterol and monosaturated fat i.e. eggs, peanut butter, olive oil...
zinc
vitamin C
porn
sex/masturbation

 

[Toozee]

bump

 

[jonny jacked]

nelson, (or whoever else would like to chime in)
what would you suggest one should take if they were going to do an all herbal pct?
also, can one fully recover on an all herbal pct, or do you have to use clomid/nolva/hcg?

 

[Nelson Montana]

There are two supplements that contain all the herbs and nutrients I recommend but I can't mention them on the boards. And yes, in many cases, it's all you'll need.

 

[caiza]

nelson you have mail....