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    Should numbers matter?

    When we lift should it even matter how much we lift? Should we focus on the aspect of moving weight and getting healthier because of it ?

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    Re: Should numbers matter?

    in a powerlifting competition if you complete the rep without scratching then it counts no matter how much you struggle or if you blow out a disk etc.

    however over time this will take a tremendous toll on a lot of things healthwise

    even powerlifters do not train with 1 or 2 rep maxes like the bird chest crowd beleives. you still train correctly 4-6 rep at lower weight and build consistency.. same for strongmen or any other strength sport. why? cause you will only wear your body out

    I bring up this example to show you the reality

    for the rest of the 95% that don't streng train for competition you obviously YES need to train with proper form.. the idea with weight training is to break down the muscle.. that is step 1 and doesn't require you throw away heavy weights like a gorilla in the gym.. this is why those 20 year olds in your gym deadlifting 500 pounds with crappy form and using every crutch available still look like shit and are actually weak as fuck .. step 2 is recovery (which most people fail at miserably but that is for another thread)
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    Re: Should numbers matter?

    This is a little like the freeweights vs machines debate (when we can use either or both). All things being equal getting a little stronger equates to getting bigger. But it doesn't mean a bodybuilder needs to do a 1 rep max of 500lbs in order to get a chest of over 50-inches. No more than a powerlifter need so to 10 x 12 reps with 250lbs to max out at 500lbs.

    My muscle, such as it is, isn't needed as such it's just a pleasurable side effect. My strength, on the other hand is. For a bodybuilder it's the complete opposite.

    Debate wise you'll see volume vs HIT argued from now to doomsday. The problem is people spend far too much time arguing vs DOING.

    So, like Stevesmi says, train well, train hard and in good form and pick, what you wanna be. Wanna be strong - do less volume with a heavier weight. Want muscle, medium weight and volume. Endurance, light weights, high reps.

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    Re: Should numbers matter?

    It depends on your goal (as has been posted 1,000,000,000,000 times)

    You need the right combo of proper form and proper weight.
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    Re: Should numbers matter?

    Any more questions?

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    Re: Should numbers matter?

    Quote Quote posted by rejean56 View Post
    When we lift should it even matter how much we lift? Should we focus on the aspect of moving weight and getting healthier because of it ?
    Yes it does. You can't expect getting bigger lifting 20 lbs dumbbels the rest of your life.

    Now that doesn't mean try to lift as much weight as you possible can while compromising your technique. This is one thing bodybuilders often get twisted when they claim the how much you weight doesn't matter at all.

    Progressive overload absolutely matters and things have to get harder over time. Once your body adapts to a given stimulus it has no intention to grow.

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    Re: Should numbers matter?

    Progression in weights helps to track progress. It all helps in growth and development.

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