Winny Question

[Tyrant77]

Quick question, i dont have alotta money to throw into a cycle so i was gonna just go with winny. im 22 bout 5'9 around 205, i could stand to lose 20-25lbs. I tried 25mg/day (oral) for around 4 weeks and didnt see "great" results. Im takin hydroxycut to help try and drop the weight and i know gains w/ winny are easier to maintain or at least thats what i was told. Im not lookin to get huge although id like to put on some size but more on the lean side. I was wondering if i should maybe bump it up to 50/mg ED which would b 2 caps and weather i should take all at once or one before i work out and one in the mornin or at night. If you guys could throw me some ideas that would be great.

Thanx

 

[georgie24]

what bumpo said!

plus-

eat clean, manipulate your macro's, add some ala, exert yourself in the gym, and after 3 months your still unhappy then throw a cycle together

1-6 winny 50 mg ed
1-6 nyc 4 tabs ed
1-6 proviron

and finish up with clomid and your done

 

[bbforlife]

Agree with bumpo! Man your diet is the most important. Its amazing how that can change your whole cycle. ! All winny will do is fuck up you cholesterol!!

 

[Saint7]

It seems quite expensive and hard on the liver to use winny I would have went with Sus at 250 or 500mg/wk. Less chances of hurting the liver and if done right great results. Saint7

Keep me updated on your progress.

 

[georgie24]

It seems quite expensive and hard on the liver to use winny I would have went with Sus at 250 or 500mg/wk. Less chances of hurting the liver and if done right great results. Saint7

Keep me updated on your progress.

with or without anti-e?

 

[Saint7]

Even with Anti E's it seems cost effiecent. They are not high levels and with diet have a potencial for great results. My overseas contact is expensive on winny however sus is at a decent price. Saint7

 

[Tyrant77]

georgie24 u mention, manipulate your macro's, add some ala, what are macro's and what is ala??

 

[crsnavet]

Originally posted by Saint7
It seems quite expensive and hard on the liver to use winny I would have went with Sus at 250 or 500mg/wk. Less chances of hurting the liver and if done right great results. Saint7

Keep me updated on your progress.

Even if he is looking to lose 20+ lbs???

DIET DIET DIET CARDIO

 

[Saint7]

Yes, the reason is, the testosterone in mild doses acts very much like when you were in puberty. You loose estrogen fat. If he keeps the protien high he will loose fat and keep the muscle. The only thing he has to watch out for is water weight but that all depends on how he reacts to the sus. I know it may seem hard to believe but it can work. As far as the 20lbs goes you are right. Diet, Diet, Cardio, cardio, is the only way to loose overall weight, however to keep the muscle there are two ways to keep. 1. Tons of protien or 2. Chems. Saint7

 

[Tyrant77]

So you guys are sayin that the Sus would produce pretty much the same effect as the winny or are u sayin it would b good to stack the Sus w/ the winny? Basically what im doin now is doin 30min cardio/day along w/ doin one muscle group per day. Ive been takin one 25mg cap bout and hour before i go to the gym and one in the mornin, along w/ the hydroxycut 2 caps 2 times a day. I should mention i guess that i do the cardio after lifting. I usually then pound a protein shake (half a packet of Met-RX Anabolic Drive APM 60 so its bout 30g of protein. Ive been eatin pretty health w/ a few minor exceptions, just doin some cereal in the mornin then tryin to do grilled chicken for dinner. Does this sould like a pretty good diet, should i add a protein shake in the mornin and before bed? Also like i said before im curious if it matters when u take the winny caps durin the day, weather all together or split em up. If you guys could help me out, ive done my homework to some degree but theres sooooo much that any help would be much appreciated.