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havenlock

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So here's my situation. Wife was looking for some batteries (my ass) and stumbled upon 3 packs of Var. She did a search for Oxyandrolone and obviously found out what it was.

Fortunately, she didn't flush it or throw it away. My guess is that she's giong to want to. I'd like to find something similar in size and shape to put in it's place to convince her that I've flushed it.

Do you guys have any suggestions???

They are the 10mg BD square/pink tabs.

Thanks for all of your help.
 
Flinstone's vitamins... LOL at least thats what I did when my parents found my first bottle of d-bol.. They wanted to see if I would come clean.. I swapped out the pills and then asked them if they had been going through my supplements... They told me they did and then asked me what the unlabled ones were, and I told them vitamins.. I popped a few in front of them and then broke one in half and told them to taste it.. Of course that was like 10 years ago.. Funny the things you will do when you are desperate.... Reguardless, now I am a big boy and they have learned to understand the sport throughout the years...
 
Bro, if she already looked it up I would just say your doc prescribed it for you.. Anavar can be used for people when they are sick to prevent muscle loss..To treat anemia, loss of red blood cell count, and osteoporosis.. Read up on it and tell her what it is and why your doc gave it to you.. There are plenty of legitimate medical uses for anavar.
 
bigtravis said:
these kind of stories kill me.
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The problem isn't that your wife found your stash. The problem is that she's tripping out over something that you choose to do. Aside from the legalities of AS possession, it's no more outrageous than you telling her she can't eat a big greasy cheeseburger cuz it may raise her cholesterol to unhealthy levels. Bottom line? You married the wrong girl. The right girl would buy you a couple bottles of Var for your b-day and give you a goodnight BJ. It amazes me that guys have such a high tolerance for bullshit like this just to keep a steady supply of ass around. Sneaking around, lying about your bad habits, etc. just seems like it would be too much work. Sorry for being so harsh, but I'd rather die old and lonely than be under the thumb of anyone else-especially some overbearing chick.

Here's an option: http://www.fireyourwife.com

and don't forget to erase your web history after you click on it. Just hope wifey doesn't have a keylogger program hidden on your hard drive somewhere. Hmmmm...perhaps you should log on at the library for this?
 
JuicedAthletics said:
Bro, if she already looked it up I would just say your doc prescribed it for you.. Anavar can be used for people when they are sick to prevent muscle loss..To treat anemia, loss of red blood cell count, and osteoporosis.. Read up on it and tell her what it is and why your doc gave it to you.. There are plenty of legitimate medical uses for anavar.
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Dude... it's his wife! A story like that would only cause more problems!
 
JuicedAthletics said:
Well, I was trying to give him some options.. I guess sack up and tell her your on the sauce...
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Yeah but lying about your health to your wife? Next thing the whole family and all her girlfriends think you have some bizzare disease...

I'd swap the pills out w/something else.
 
havenlock said:
So here's my situation. Wife was looking for some batteries (my ass) and stumbled upon 3 packs of Var. She did a search for Oxyandrolone and obviously found out what it was.

Fortunately, she didn't flush it or throw it away. My guess is that she's giong to want to. I'd like to find something similar in size and shape to put in it's place to convince her that I've flushed it.

Do you guys have any suggestions???

They are the 10mg BD square/pink tabs.

Thanks for all of your help.
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offer to share them with her. you both win.
 
havenlock said:
So here's my situation. Wife was looking for some batteries (my ass) and stumbled upon 3 packs of Var. She did a search for Oxyandrolone and obviously found out what it was.

Fortunately, she didn't flush it or throw it away. My guess is that she's giong to want to. I'd like to find something similar in size and shape to put in it's place to convince her that I've flushed it.

Do you guys have any suggestions???

They are the 10mg BD square/pink tabs.

Thanks for all of your help.
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long story short my wife found my stuff and wigged out. After a lot of talking and explaining gear and the sides, precautions etc, she is cool. Just tell her. Be a man.
 
agreed on the last one man, just tell her, tell her why u wanna do it, the sides the benefits, and that u do pct and keep your body healthy. thats what i did before i started and my wife is cool with it.
 
Here's a thought. Don't hide it from her next time. She's your wife! As for this time around, just tell her you are using them to boost your libido so that you can make her feel like the woman that she is. Tell her since you know you disappoint her in bed you were hoping this would help out.
 
needtogetas said:
lol@youre girls dont know.
shit I tell my wife to stfu or Ill roid rage on her.bwahahahaahah.
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lmoa, i hear ya but i had to take my var 4 times a day so i had to make up something of what i was taking
 
Bro my wife is cool with it! Just be honest with her. Women don't forget, so when you tell one lie you'll have to tell another and so on. Next thing ya know you'll forget what you told her (she won't though) and then here comes the non stop bitching. My buddy lives through that shit every day.
 
DieselGunz said:
now that is a good woman!


nice new avi
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she is a nurce so she knows how to give shots.
ya I thought the ave would ster some shit up.soner or latter some asshate will say something about it,and I can get a laugh or to out of it.
 
havenlock said:
So here's my situation. Wife was looking for some batteries (my ass) and stumbled upon 3 packs of Var. She did a search for Oxyandrolone and obviously found out what it was.

Fortunately, she didn't flush it or throw it away. My guess is that she's giong to want to. I'd like to find something similar in size and shape to put in it's place to convince her that I've flushed it.

Do you guys have any suggestions???

They are the 10mg BD square/pink tabs.

Thanks for all of your help.
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WOW, My wife found mine and she started taking them and working out, guess we both lost some var :)
 
my gf once came over and found 3 used needles in my bathroom, she came and ask why, i was like oh ummmmmm, ummmm, ummmmm, b12 shots, shes like really, im like ya,(luckly i had a bottle of kynoselen that passed off as it, and she was still pissed, i told her id giver her some, help w/ fat reduction, we kinda broke up 2weeks later... whoda know, thats sucks your wife found it, first off shes married to you so she cant leave you, i hope, and 2 if she likes the way you look, then whats she bitching about.... hope you sort it all out, gluck bro..
 
Time to come clean bro. I know if my wife found out I would just tell er the deal and if she couldnt live with it then I would drop the gear. There are more important things in life than steroids but I'm sure with my wife it wouldnt come to that.
 
02gixxersix2 said:
Time to come clean bro. I know if my wife found out I would just tell er the deal and if she couldnt live with it then I would drop the gear. There are more important things in life than steroids but I'm sure with my wife it wouldnt come to that.
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Any girl that dishes out that kind of "my way or the highway" ultimatum about something she probably knows nothing about is not worth being with.

Today she says no more steroids. So like the good hubby that you are, you comply with her wishes to keep the peace. What happens tomorrow when she says no more sex? Will you learn to deal with that to keep the peace too? There's more to life than sex ya know. Where do you "man up" and draw the line? Or maybe you like sleeping on the couch?

The more I hear stuff like this the more I'm glad I'm single. The feminization of men today by their strong women(feminazi) partners is turning guys into empty, castrated shells of what they once were. Because women are so independent these days, they don't really give a shit whether or not they can keep a man around. The sad part is that once she finally has you broken down completely, she'll no longer respect you and start scoping out new cock. Divorce (which she can conveniently file for online w/o ever leaving home now for about $200) will soon follow. Then after you sign the papers and give her 50% of your assets, your self esteem will be so low that you'll feel like too big of a loser to ever date again. She'll remarry and start working on the next chump like she never missed a beat. This will fuck your head up so bad that you become a reclusive alcoholic that dies of a heart attack at age 45.

The median age of this board has to be about 22 yrs old because it's apparent that most guys here haven't suffered the inevitable yet.
 
Just tell her you take "Supplements". I fell for that one! Now that I alot more about AAS, it doesn't bother me at all. The only thing that would freak me out would be if he was taking anything toxic like Anadrol that could damage his liver.
 
Damn! Girls post on this board too? I better invest in a kevlar vest. For the record, not every girl is a selfish, ruthless, manipulating machine. Finding one that isn't might take some time though.

At least some girls (like the one above) actually do some research and know wtf they're talking about before they express any concern. Some guys with a get big at all costs attitude may need a girl to save them from themselves. There's nothing wrong with a girl that's genuinely concerned with her man's health, but Var??? Creatine is probably tougher on your body than Var is.
 
BigCracker said:
Any girl that dishes out that kind of "my way or the highway" ultimatum about something she probably knows nothing about is not worth being with.

Today she says no more steroids. So like the good hubby that you are, you comply with her wishes to keep the peace. What happens tomorrow when she says no more sex? Will you learn to deal with that to keep the peace too? There's more to life than sex ya know. Where do you "man up" and draw the line? Or maybe you like sleeping on the couch?

The more I hear stuff like this the more I'm glad I'm single. The feminization of men today by their strong women(feminazi) partners is turning guys into empty, castrated shells of what they once were. Because women are so independent these days, they don't really give a shit whether or not they can keep a man around. The sad part is that once she finally has you broken down completely, she'll no longer respect you and start scoping out new cock. Divorce (which she can conveniently file for online w/o ever leaving home now for about $200) will soon follow. Then after you sign the papers and give her 50% of your assets, your self esteem will be so low that you'll feel like too big of a loser to ever date again. She'll remarry and start working on the next chump like she never missed a beat. This will fuck your head up so bad that you become a reclusive alcoholic that dies of a heart attack at age 45.

The median age of this board has to be about 22 yrs old because it's apparent that most guys here haven't suffered the inevitable yet.
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Fuck me Bro, thats the most positive post I've ever read! I assume your talking from experience and got a right shafting somewhere along the line!
 
BigCracker said:
Any girl that dishes out that kind of "my way or the highway" ultimatum about something she probably knows nothing about is not worth being with.

Today she says no more steroids. So like the good hubby that you are, you comply with her wishes to keep the peace. What happens tomorrow when she says no more sex? Will you learn to deal with that to keep the peace too? There's more to life than sex ya know. Where do you "man up" and draw the line? Or maybe you like sleeping on the couch?

The more I hear stuff like this the more I'm glad I'm single. The feminization of men today by their strong women(feminazi) partners is turning guys into empty, castrated shells of what they once were. Because women are so independent these days, they don't really give a shit whether or not they can keep a man around. The sad part is that once she finally has you broken down completely, she'll no longer respect you and start scoping out new cock. Divorce (which she can conveniently file for online w/o ever leaving home now for about $200) will soon follow. Then after you sign the papers and give her 50% of your assets, your self esteem will be so low that you'll feel like too big of a loser to ever date again. She'll remarry and start working on the next chump like she never missed a beat. This will fuck your head up so bad that you become a reclusive alcoholic that dies of a heart attack at age 45.

The median age of this board has to be about 22 yrs old because it's apparent that most guys here haven't suffered the inevitable yet.
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Amen! This man has been down the road and its obvious. And he is dead on when he states that it is inevitable...its coming FOR SURE!

No, you say? Hah, I can hear it now, "Not my girl, she is not like the others." ROFLMAO!! I 100% guarantee you she IS! I know.
 
BigCracker said:
Any girl that dishes out that kind of "my way or the highway" ultimatum about something she probably knows nothing about is not worth being with.

Today she says no more steroids. So like the good hubby that you are, you comply with her wishes to keep the peace. What happens tomorrow when she says no more sex? Will you learn to deal with that to keep the peace too? There's more to life than sex ya know. Where do you "man up" and draw the line? Or maybe you like sleeping on the couch?

The more I hear stuff like this the more I'm glad I'm single. The feminization of men today by their strong women(feminazi) partners is turning guys into empty, castrated shells of what they once were. Because women are so independent these days, they don't really give a shit whether or not they can keep a man around. The sad part is that once she finally has you broken down completely, she'll no longer respect you and start scoping out new cock. Divorce (which she can conveniently file for online w/o ever leaving home now for about $200) will soon follow. Then after you sign the papers and give her 50% of your assets, your self esteem will be so low that you'll feel like too big of a loser to ever date again. She'll remarry and start working on the next chump like she never missed a beat. This will fuck your head up so bad that you become a reclusive alcoholic that dies of a heart attack at age 45.

The median age of this board has to be about 22 yrs old because it's apparent that most guys here haven't suffered the inevitable yet.
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I only have 14 more years of drinking? Shit, I'm going to hit it hard!

I'm sure this isn't that serious yet! Big picture though: think about what you do, make a choice, stand behind that choice. Strong people have better direction and have easier flow in life. I think most on EF are strong people and want that life. Ask a question like this one and expect strong answers!
 
sfmonster said:
I only have 14 more years of drinking? Shit, I'm going to hit it hard!

I'm sure this isn't that serious yet! Big picture though: think about what you do, make a choice, stand behind that choice. Strong people have better direction and have easier flow in life. I think most on EF are strong people and want that life. Ask a question like this one and expect strong answers!
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You'd be surprised Bro. Once a woman gets inside your head, she can do strange things to the strongest of men. Relationships take alot of priority and demand alot of commitment. When your Chick demands alot of attention, you find your life revolves around her. In fact, everything revolves around her and your days of being 100% your own man are over. You can be strong in the street, strong in the gym, strong at work, but at home you could easily find yourself dictated.

My Mrs hates being alone, so my days of going off with my buddies at occasional week-ends fishing are over. I could say "I'm off to the country-side, so see you next monday", but she'd go nuts, so I wouldn't dare suggest it. Am I weak for not standing my ground? Probably, even though I liike to think I'm strong
 
riverrock said:
You'd be surprised Bro. Once a woman gets inside your head, she can do strange things to the strongest of men. Relationships take alot of priority and demand alot of commitment. When your Chick demands alot of attention, you find your life revolves around her. In fact, everything revolves around her and your days of being 100% your own man are over. You can be strong in the street, strong in the gym, strong at work, but at home you could easily find yourself dictated.

My Mrs hates being alone, so my days of going off with my buddies at occasional week-ends fishing are over. I could say "I'm off to the country-side, so see you next monday", but she'd go nuts, so I wouldn't dare suggest it. Am I weak for not standing my ground? Probably, even though I liike to think I'm strong
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Why does she demand so much attention? You only get one life so you should live it the way U want. As for me, when I'm with a special women I don't feel like she has to demand my attention, she just gets it. I, however enjoy being with a woman who doesn't mind my independent side. To each there own.
My point on this thread is try to keep it simple. Make your choices and stick to them. When you get into the 'I'll do it this way in this sit. and the other way in another sit. than you tend to loose focus on where you should be really looking.
 
sfmonster said:
Why does she demand so much attention? .
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Well, she's a member of this Board, so I won't say too much! However, she rarely visits anywhere except the Espanol Forum, so I suppose I can talk!

I think its a bit of insecurity really. If your not constantly re-assuring, then she'll pick a fight to make sure you do. "You like the girl who works in our gym" was a regular fight-starter. Of course, I'd jump in with "No, I love you, don't say that". Thats re-assurance, even if its by means of a heated argument. Used to rise to that bait, but don't anymore
 
I think your wife is entitled to over-react. She thinks your doing something dangerous and is worried about you. Just coz us Bros know your responsible doesn't mean she thinks the same thing.
 
riverrock said:
my days of going off with my buddies at occasional week-ends fishing are over
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That is UNacceptable! This sounds like a very insecure girl who doesnt trust you to be out of her sight. I can almost guarantee she has very serious self-image problems.


riverrock said:
Am I weak for not standing my ground?
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Look at what you said above and YOU tell me! Sad day when a man cannot go fishing with his buddies.
 
i've known afew people with overbearing wives/girlfriends. one of them was so insecure that my bor couldn't watch a television show with a hot chick on it without getting some flak. it turned out that she was the one with the real problem they both went to the doctor and they diagnosed her with being bipolar and having severe anxiety. then they put her on 4 different antidepressants and antipsychotics. maybe she's the one that needs help.
 
Stop being a pussy

Be honest and upfront about it, and maybe try to educate her a bit. You should have never hid it from her anyway.
 
Yeah, convince her to cross over to the darkside! Maybe some clen or something? Then she can't bitch @ you anymore............it worked for me!
 
BigCracker said:
Any girl that dishes out that kind of "my way or the highway" ultimatum about something she probably knows nothing about is not worth being with.

Today she says no more steroids. So like the good hubby that you are, you comply with her wishes to keep the peace. What happens tomorrow when she says no more sex? Will you learn to deal with that to keep the peace too? There's more to life than sex ya know. Where do you "man up" and draw the line? Or maybe you like sleeping on the couch?

The more I hear stuff like this the more I'm glad I'm single. The feminization of men today by their strong women(feminazi) partners is turning guys into empty, castrated shells of what they once were. Because women are so independent these days, they don't really give a shit whether or not they can keep a man around. The sad part is that once she finally has you broken down completely, she'll no longer respect you and start scoping out new cock. Divorce (which she can conveniently file for online w/o ever leaving home now for about $200) will soon follow. Then after you sign the papers and give her 50% of your assets, your self esteem will be so low that you'll feel like too big of a loser to ever date again. She'll remarry and start working on the next chump like she never missed a beat. This will fuck your head up so bad that you become a reclusive alcoholic that dies of a heart attack at age 45.

The median age of this board has to be about 22 yrs old because it's apparent that most guys here haven't suffered the inevitable yet.
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There is a big difference between steroids and sex bro. Sex is part of a healthy relationship steroids are def. not. My wife is more important than anything and if it bothered her that much I would stop. Either way she would never do that as I have a great girl who doesn't have a my way or the highway attitude. Sounds like you have had some bad luck with girls bro but thats not how it is with everyone.
 
dannomight said:
i've known afew people with overbearing wives/girlfriends. one of them was so insecure that my bor couldn't watch a television show with a hot chick on it without getting some flak. it turned out that she was the one with the real problem they both went to the doctor and they diagnosed her with being bipolar and having severe anxiety. then they put her on 4 different antidepressants and antipsychotics. maybe she's the one that needs help.
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LOL that reminds me of my friends wife. She left and was gonna divorce him because she found a porn site in his online history. I couldnt live with that but I guess some people can. Sounds like a lot of the guys on this board needs to find someone who is willing to make sacrafices as well. My wife lets me do whatever I want really and I can still go out with my friends but I don't most of the time because its not fun for both of us. Good luck to the guys who have been crushed by these women but they're not all like that guys.
 
02gixxersix2 said:
There is a big difference between steroids and sex bro. Sex is part of a healthy relationship steroids are def. not. My wife is more important than anything and if it bothered her that much I would stop. Either way she would never do that as I have a great girl who doesn't have a my way or the highway attitude. Sounds like you have had some bad luck with girls bro but thats not how it is with everyone.
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Congrats! You found the right girl! I found the right girl too-twice!!! The 1st one was quite supportive of my bodybuilding endeavors. She even paid a lot of my bills and never flipped me shit for anything. She never denied me sex and she took shots to the face like Jenna Jameson. In return I showed her how to train and got her in unbelievable shape-which really helped her self esteem. I let her leech off of my successful personal training biz and provided her with a shitload of clients. For the very 1st time in her life she had financial independence. After 5 yrs, marriage for us was just around the corner 2 carat diamond ring and all-until I came home one day to an empty apartment. Apparently I pumped her ego and enhanced her life so much that I made myself obsolete. Nobody was more surprised than I was. Personally, if someone did all of the things for me that I did for her, my conscience would never allow me to dump her. Did that stop her? Fuck no. #2 girl of my dreams was very similar. She let me do whatever I wanted and was great in the sack. Once again, I enhanced her life to the point of making myself obsolete. Once again, at that magic 5 yr mark, her riding my coat tail to financial success was no longer good enough. Almost overnight she decided she needed her own spotlight to be happy. In both relationships I was a model boyfriend. I was never physically or emotionally abusive. I never lied, cheated, or even considered cheating. I never lied by omission either-meaning I never hid anything from them at all. My point being, today's paradise could very well be tomorrow's tragedy. Even if the lines of communication are always open, there's no guarantees that your girl won't wake up one morning with an agenda that doesn't include you. Right now you say "Won't happen to me-my old lady is the shiz-nit" Well, I used to say that too. Girls wants and needs can dramatically change at a moment's notice-especially in their late 20's. You may, or may not be included in these wants and needs, and there aint a damn thing you can do about it.

My past break ups and betrayals by the girls I loved are nothing compared to what most of the guys I know have gone through. Once married w/kid(s), multiply the emotional trauma x10. Plus the guilt you'll feel for putting your kids through this emotional shitstorm is beyond description. If I knew more than just a couple of people in "happily ever after/until death do us part" type relationships, I'd be a little more optimistic. But I don't. Even my parents divorced after 20 yrs of quasi-marital bliss. The very same month my father made the last house payment, my mother served him with divorce papers. How would you like to bust your ass in a factory 20 yrs to pay for a house-only to have to move out and rent an apartment like he did? I'll die old and lonely before some selfish bitch ever does that to me.

I wish you the best of luck gixxer boy. A Suzuki guy like myself('99 Hayabusa) can't be all bad. lol Just never invest in a relationship emotionally more than you can afford to lose and you'll be OK.
 
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I agree with the others bro,just tell her.My wife is very,very old fashioned,and when I taled to her about it,she was against it,for health and legal resons.After talking with her and explaining all the cons ,she accepted my use.She is still against it,but just accepts it as something I do.She loves me and accepts what I do,as she knows I would'nt do anything I wasn't sure about.
Tell her bro,if she loves you,she'll understand!
 
havenlock said:
So here's my situation. Wife was looking for some batteries (my ass) and stumbled upon 3 packs of Var. She did a search for Oxyandrolone and obviously found out what it was.

Fortunately, she didn't flush it or throw it away. My guess is that she's giong to want to. I'd like to find something similar in size and shape to put in it's place to convince her that I've flushed it.

Do you guys have any suggestions???

They are the 10mg BD square/pink tabs.

Thanks for all of your help.
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i know this isn't what you want to hear, but why don't you just be honest with her and tell her the truth? It bewilders me that guys in this forum can't speak open and honestly with their wifes about their aas usage. You put your life at risk using gear and you don't let anyone know? Besides, your wife is supposed to be your best friend - someone who you can talk to and share things with.. maybe it's just me, but the idea of hiding something that's so obvious like being on gear just astounds me..

strange..
 
I agree 100%.........well "risking your life" I don't agree on, but everything else you said I do.
sparetire said:
i know this isn't what you want to hear, but why don't you just be honest with her and tell her the truth? It bewilders me that guys in this forum can't speak open and honestly with their wifes about their aas usage. You put your life at risk using gear and you don't let anyone know? Besides, your wife is supposed to be your best friend - someone who you can talk to and share things with.. maybe it's just me, but the idea of hiding something that's so obvious like being on gear just astounds me..

strange..
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riverrock said:
My Mrs hates being alone, so my days of going off with my buddies at occasional week-ends fishing are over. I could say "I'm off to the country-side, so see you next monday", but she'd go nuts, so I wouldn't dare suggest it. Am I weak for not standing my ground? Probably, even though I liike to think I'm strong
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LMAO, my husband and I were just talking about this today. He was joking with me that he thinks I wish he would go off more so I could be left alone at home. I agreed. :) Not because I don't want him around, but so I could take more naps, lol. I am always freaking tired. I don't expect him to be with me 24/7 - nor do I want him to be. He is his own person, as am I. We should have our own free time too.

That said, to the initial poster, explain it to your wife, find REAL research on Var. Not this over-dramatic media shit. I assume you also do blood tests to check for test levels, liver values and cholesterol? Doing that will help he BELEIVE you value your health. Also, explain PCT and how it is used to help you recover.

The more she understands, the more understanding she may be.
 
BigCracker said:
Congrats! You found the right girl! I found the right girl too-twice!!! The 1st one was quite supportive of my bodybuilding endeavors. She even paid a lot of my bills and never flipped me shit for anything. She never denied me sex and she took shots to the face like Jenna Jameson. In return I showed her how to train and got her in unbelievable shape-which really helped her self esteem. I let her leech off of my successful personal training biz and provided her with a shitload of clients. For the very 1st time in her life she had financial independence. After 5 yrs, marriage for us was just around the corner 2 carat diamond ring and all-until I came home one day to an empty apartment. Apparently I pumped her ego and enhanced her life so much that I made myself obsolete. Nobody was more surprised than I was. Personally, if someone did all of the things for me that I did for her, my conscience would never allow me to dump her. Did that stop her? Fuck no. #2 girl of my dreams was very similar. She let me do whatever I wanted and was great in the sack. Once again, I enhanced her life to the point of making myself obsolete. Once again, at that magic 5 yr mark, her riding my coat tail to financial success was no longer good enough. Almost overnight she decided she needed her own spotlight to be happy. In both relationships I was a model boyfriend. I was never physically or emotionally abusive. I never lied, cheated, or even considered cheating. I never lied by omission either-meaning I never hid anything from them at all. My point being, today's paradise could very well be tomorrow's tragedy. Even if the lines of communication are always open, there's no guarantees that your girl won't wake up one morning with an agenda that doesn't include you. Right now you say "Won't happen to me-my old lady is the shiz-nit" Well, I used to say that too. Girls wants and needs can dramatically change at a moment's notice-especially in their late 20's. You may, or may not be included in these wants and needs, and there aint a damn thing you can do about it.

My past break ups and betrayals by the girls I loved are nothing compared to what most of the guys I know have gone through. Once married w/kid(s), multiply the emotional trauma x10. Plus the guilt you'll feel for putting your kids through this emotional shitstorm is beyond description. If I knew more than just a couple of people in "happily ever after/until death do us part" type relationships, I'd be a little more optimistic. But I don't. Even my parents divorced after 20 yrs of quasi-marital bliss. The very same month my father made the last house payment, my mother served him with divorce papers. How would you like to bust your ass in a factory 20 yrs to pay for a house-only to have to move out and rent an apartment like he did? I'll die old and lonely before some selfish bitch ever does that to me.

I wish you the best of luck gixxer boy. A Suzuki guy like myself('99 Hayabusa) can't be all bad. lol Just never invest in a relationship emotionally more than you can afford to lose and you'll be OK.
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Darlin', the common denominator in those situations is YOU. If the same thing happens twice to someone, chances are, it is something THEY are doing.

Methinks you pick the wrong women.

Not only that, but why is it YOUR job to "fix them" and enhance their lives? WHy not find a woman who you do not have to "fix"? I'd be pissed too if someone kept trying to "make me better" - I am a fucking adult. I'll fix myself if I want to. JMHO.
 
in my house we have a cabinet with about 300 vitamin bottles...i put my winny tabs in the vitalert bottle and my dbols in vitamin E bottle...not like they ever take vitamins anyways...
 
newbiebynature said:
in my house we have a cabinet with about 300 vitamin bottles...i put my winny tabs in the vitalert bottle and my dbols in vitamin E bottle...not like they ever take vitamins anyways...
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but I know where they are now ............. :p
 
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in my house we have a cabinet with about 300 vitamin bottles...i put my winny tabs in the vitalert bottle and my dbols in vitamin E bottle...not like they ever take vitamins anyways...
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That would be interesting if someone did decide to take vitamins and ended up liking the d-bol experience and started taking on a regular basis. LOL
 
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in my house we have a cabinet with about 300 vitamin bottles...i put my winny tabs in the vitalert bottle and my dbols in vitamin E bottle...not like they ever take vitamins anyways...
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That would be interesting if someone did decide to take vitamins and ended up liking the d-bol experience and started taking on a regular basis. LOL
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ive also got like 15 valiums in a gluceroll R bottle as well :)
 
BigCracker said:
Damn! Girls post on this board too? I better invest in a kevlar vest. For the record, not every girl is a selfish, ruthless, manipulating machine. Finding one that isn't might take some time though.
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theres chicks on this board that take more steroids than I do. lol
 
Daisy_Girl said:
Darlin', the common denominator in those situations is YOU. If the same thing happens twice to someone, chances are, it is something THEY are doing.

Methinks you pick the wrong women.

Not only that, but why is it YOUR job to "fix them" and enhance their lives? WHy not find a woman who you do not have to "fix"? I'd be pissed too if someone kept trying to "make me better" - I am a fucking adult. I'll fix myself if I want to. JMHO.
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Thanks Dr Phil. Trying to fix them was never my mission, I just thought it was the right thing to do. I figured that the more that they liked themselves, the more that they'd like me. It's not like I pushed improving the quality of their life on them. They were willing participants that I thought were in it for the long haul. It's not like they wre saying, "don't help me diet or don't buy me fake tits-I don't wanna improve my appearance." Most guys beat their women down emotionally to control them by saying stuff like "I love you, but nobody else would." This is nothing more than a positive reaffirmation followed by a subliminal mental slam. It's the same way that a pimp makes his ho's bring him all the money they make, just not as severe. I choose not to treat girls this way because I don't need anyone around that bad that doesn't choose to be around by their own free will. I've been single now for 4 yrs and I've done a lot of soul searching during this time. I want a girl that doesn't need any fixing-yet the ones I find attractive always seem to have plenty of room for self improvement. I guess that is my shortcoming? I just avoid dating them seriously so I don't make the same mistake a 3rd time. BTW-I never claimed to be perfect.

The girls that do have their shit together often want all the benefits of "equality" in a relationship without any of the responsibilities.They want special privileges (men paying on dates, being "gentlemen" by using special deferential manners and language to women, being the main breadwinner, etc) but feign offering traditional obligations in return (being modest and ladylike, being a housewife, keeping their man happy in the bedroom, etc). I'm sure there are exceptions out there, but from a geographical standpoint, I don't think I live in a very target-rich environment. Phoenix is a lot like LA. Superficiality reigns supreme and the femi-nazi movement stands tall. Boob jobs are the high school graduation present of choice. Girls would rather date an asshole with a nice car than date a nice guy in a hooptee. Women here that don't have their own $80K/yr careers and a nanny(but are good full time wives/mothers) are viewed by others as if they've somehow sold themselves short in life. Guys that aren't supportive of their woman's careers are considered losers just because they don't want to play 2nd fiddle to their woman's job. How do you fit romance into a relationship when you both work 60+ hrs/ wk?

Oh well, if I ever get that desperate I can always marry up and have affairs on the side. That way I can have the security of a relationship and still provide myself with the things I need to be happy that my wife can't. That's what most guys do. Then again, I'm not most guys.
 
BigCracker said:
Oh well, if I ever get that desperate I can always marry up and have affairs on the side. That way I can have the security of a relationship and still provide myself with the things I need to be happy that my wife can't. That's what most guys do. Then again, I'm not most guys.
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That is quite a goal you have set for your future self. I feel very sad for you and your future wife. I wouldn't want to be in that situation - on either end.
 
Daisy_Girl said:
That is quite a goal you have set for your future self. I feel very sad for you and your future wife. I wouldn't want to be in that situation - on either end.
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Quit misconstruing my words. That was merely a sarcastic statement of what many guys will succumb to and what I'll never do myself.

In fact, I retract all previous negative depictions of women I've made in this thread. Women are a gift from God that are put on this Earth solely for the purpose of being adored by men. Each woman has their own unique personality and any character flaws that they might have should be embraced by all males unconditionally for their individuality and strife. Also, spending your life's earnings on women should be viewed as a valuable privelege that's a worthwhile investment in holding their interest. In addition, any sexual boundaries women have should be understood and respected without question, even if it means comprimising your own sexual needs to do so. No means no! Amen.

Vote Hitlerry Clinton 2008!!!
 
Wow, this post really blew up...

A lot of great advice on here. I didn't expect to get so much feedback.

The bottom line is that everyone is right. I never wanted to have to had that shit from her. This is the tip of the iceberg. I could go into details about our relationship but it just comes down to be open and honest with your spouse.

She'll never accept it. So either A) I give it up B)continue hiding it, or C) Find me a woman that accepts what I do and the reasons I do it. I'm going to confront her. Who knows what will happen - but it's inevitable and for the best.

Thanks again to everyone who posted.
 
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