Why I think Tren may have given me Cancer.

[slobberknocker]

Kaposi's Sarcoma is what one doc. has dais it may be.

So do you or do you not actually have cancer? I wouldn't go with a "may be" on something like that.

 

[Slowmo21]

...the use of pregnenolone, dhea and/or 7oxo may help considerably... as these hormonal precursors (which are suppressed when HPTA is suppressed) are very important to immune health.

What about people on HRT (complete HPTA suppression)? Are you saying there's immune system suppression and other consequences? I'm asking because my endocrinologist assured me everything would be normal for the patients (aside from the lack of endogenous test&sperm production).

 

[FreakMonster]

I also got shingles that summer which is a sign of imune suppresion. The first signs of possible cell mutation was a growth that occured on my midsection that summer. I had it removed and it was found to be void of skin cancer.

I got off tren finally and all seemed fine. BUT I did Tren 2 more times after that summer and every time I seemed to get these spots. The Doctors were checking for skin cancer everytime so it came up neg, until finally this week a Doc from John Hopkins said it may be KS.


Be smart.

Fuck I got shingles on my midsection to that appeared during my Fina cycle. I've been doing Fina for 2 months now at 75mgs ED. This is kinda freaking me out. I think I'm going to have to stop. I've done Fina twice before. What did your growth look like? I have this spot on my midsection that looks kinda dried up.

 

[pharmguy]

I noticed them after dbold also. Very strange.

Fat deposits, = fatty lipoma

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Krazy, using that logic, we should not use any steroids or eat carbohydrates ever again. They increase igf-1 production. And again, igf-1 does not cause cancer. It increases the rate of growth once you develop the tumor. Actually, gyno is caused by several hormones interacting together... you remove one, or get it low enough, gyno cannot occur. Thus saying "a gram of test a week causes gyno" is a false statement. A true statement, according to what we understand to be true at this time, would be "someone who uses a gram of test a week has a higher chance of developing gyno than if he used less."
Now, by looking at what Fonz and I have both have stated, a reasonable conclusion could be, "People who have cancer should not use trenbolone."
Have you ever studied logic by chance?

 

[bigrand]

Yeah, Tren didnt give you cancer bro, there several factors involved in every case of cancer, but i assure that Tren wasnt the inducing culprit.
Find out for sure if you have it too, and find out the genetics of it (where there are mutations in the gene sequence), that way, if you do have it, it can be better treated. Skin cancers are more treatable than others too, so keep hope up bro.

 

[HighIntensity]

I respect you opions but let's not say, Tren did not give it me. It may have and it may not have. Case being if I never took Tren, (granted I did it TOO LONG TOO MUCH) would I be sitting here with possible KS. The answer is no.

There are 4 types of KS and one of them is directly realeted to imunity. You can say what you want, but I was a healthy man before Tren. And in under 4 months after my first shot of Tren and only Tren I had devoloped shingles and early signs of what seems to be KS.

hmmm

 

[~ThaGame~]

Goodluck HI, you'll pull through bro
what are shingles?

 

[Krazykat]

Finaplix I think we are at crossed wires.


You need to reread what Fonz said.

Fonz said


"Yes.
Its not the tren.
Its the elevation in IGF-1 caused by the tren that probably caused the cancer.
Thats why you always run R-ALA when on tren. It de-activated NF-Kappa-B, erradicating any possible cancerous growth.
Fonz"


Now firstly Fonz is saying that the elevation in IGF-1 probably CAUSED the cancer. Fonz said that not me.

But he is saying that the tren did not cause it.

But rather the elevation in IGF-1 caused by the tren. But surely you can see that this is due to the tren.

Increased tren= increased IGF-1 = increased likelyhood of cancer.

But it is the tren right!

Of course a gram of test does not give you gyno per se but increases the chance of it over a lower dose. But if you get the gyno then the test has given you gyno from the conversion of estrogen.

 

[DepressiveJuice]

personally, saying that tren didnt cause the cancer is like saying AIDS doesnt kill. they arent the direct cause but they are the link to the cause.

HI i know this is the farthest thing on your mind right now but im curious what being on tren for so long has done to your libido