Why Dems Won't Win: No Balls

[redsamurai]

What makes you think that hard core bible thumping one diminensional hicks outnumber black, women, gay, minority, liberal, and moderate voters? .

because they do.........unfortunately. There's too many of them that are hung up on gay marriage and abortion to come to the austere conclusion that maybe there's more important issues going on with this country than what a woman does with her body and who people choose to love. If the conservative base can rally those people in the numbers they did in 2000 and 2004........they'll probably win again. HOPEFULLY, this next election proves that people are waking up and realizing that there's some shit going down.

 

[heatherrae]

I swear to God that the other day at my stepmother's family reunion some woman actually said that if Hillary wins it is a sign that of the apocalypse. She started quoting bible verses saying that when a woman won for American prez, the world would end within that president's term. Then she added, "well, either a woman or a queer."

And this is the American public that voted for Bush.

 

[CrazyRussian]

because they do.........unfortunately. There's too many of them that are hung up on gay marriage and abortion to come to the austere conclusion that maybe there's more important issues going on with this country than what a woman does with her body and who people choose to love. If the conservative base can rally those people in the numbers they did in 2000 and 2004........they'll probably win again. HOPEFULLY, this next election proves that people are waking up and realizing that there's some shit going down.

Simply not true. Check the statistics. Add together female voters (who already outnumber men voters according to some exit polls) and add in minorities as well as liberals and moderates (who make up nearly half of the voters as well). It's not even close.

But anyways the biggest determinents of your vote are Party and Key Issues. The candidates already know that there are gonna be x amount of people who vote just based upon these merits. They're trying to get the swing voters...

 

[redsamurai]

Simply not true. Check the statistics. Add together female voters (who already outnumber men voters according to some exit polls) and add in minorities as well as liberals and moderates (who make up nearly half of the voters as well). It's not even close.

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I could swear I read that 2004 was one of the biggest liberal voting turnouts in history..........so to say it's not even close has to be somewhat misleading. I mean if every thing goes perfect..........a dem will still probably only get 51-54% of the general vote. Which of course the republicans will respond to saying that it's so close that the dem president has to concede to the right in some respects.........despite Bush calling his 51% win a "mandate".

 

[CrazyRussian]

I could swear I read that 2004 was one of the biggest liberal voting turnouts in history..........so to say it's not even close has to be somewhat misleading. I mean if every thing goes perfect..........a dem will still probably only get 51-54% of the general vote. Which of course the republicans will respond to saying that it's so close that the dem president has to concede to the right in some respects.........despite Bush calling his 51% win a "mandate".

You must have misunderstood me. I meant that when you compare the non-"southern white hick" voters to the "southern white hick voters", it isn't even close. The white hicks are outnumbered. And I highly doubt 2004 was one of the biggest liberal turnouts, when their candidate didn't even win. FDR's years come to mind, as well as LBJ, as well as Woodrow Wilsonm etc.

 

[redsamurai]

You must have misunderstood me. I meant that when you compare the non-"southern white hick" voters to the "southern white hick voters", it isn't even close. The white hicks are outnumbered. And I highly doubt 2004 was one of the biggest liberal turnouts, when their candidate didn't even win. FDR's years come to mind, as well as LBJ, as well as Woodrow Wilsonm etc.

well I sure hope what you say is right......

 

[redsamurai]

You must have misunderstood me. I meant that when you compare the non-"southern white hick" voters to the "southern white hick voters", it isn't even close. The white hicks are outnumbered. And I highly doubt 2004 was one of the biggest liberal turnouts, when their candidate didn't even win. FDR's years come to mind, as well as LBJ, as well as Woodrow Wilsonm etc.

well I sure hope what you say is right......

 

[Longhorn85]

NOT MY PERSONAL OPTION, JUST MY THOUGHT! RELAX!

You have had a lot of choice posts in this thread, but I will single this one out:

One's personal opinion (not option), IS one's thought, is it not?

 

[Razorguns]

dems are morons

repubs are corrupt

who do u want in office?

and if repubs are smart, and 'surprise surprise!' start bringing troops home - they'll lose an easy election next year. hillary and obama are unwinnable.

r

 

[yonkers weights]

One is black and one is a women = NO SHOT IN THE US TODAY!
The American people are not ready for it.

"Some of my best friends are black and women." LOL