when did these high doses become the right thing?

[Nelson Montana]

By the way. All that overtraining didn't seem to hurt Don much.

And I guess just 20 mgs of d-bol isn't enough to make gains.

Check it out. Not huge by todays standards but pretty f*cking awesome IMO.

http://donhoworth.com/


Incidentally, I have an interview with Don as one of the new reports I'll soon be releasing. An interesting take on the ways the old timers viewed steroids.

 

[georgie24]

don is pretty fucking jacked!

 

[samoth]

it's best to err on the side of overtraining than undertraining if you want to see how big you can grow.

Best quote ever.

 

[chazk]

i made my best gains at age 19 following arnold work out in his ecyclopedia ...
4 movements per muscle... 2times a week each muscle with cycles like 200mg of deca and 4 dbol i literally looked tons beter then i do now with triple the dose.with this 3 day a aweek stuff
6 days on 1 day off..thats was around 1997 then people started writing in the book about over training.. and the trend went to one day a aweek..
I think lots fo sets and reps and excersizes it what gave arnold a 3-d looking blowing him up so he looked good at every angle...

prob now is with working 3 days a week is ok.. but i dont have 6 days aweek like those guys do bodybuilding was their job their lifes work...
but this summer i'm gonna do the 6 day a week split and see what happens
first 3 days heavey second 3 days semi light with lots of reps and sets to get the red mucle fibers stimulated..

thanks nelson you just got me excited to work out again.

 

[rg78]

How would he stay on 20mgs of dbol?

 

[solidspine]

Nelson


Do you think I should inject

1 gram of Test E and 400 mg of Deca every 3.5 days

Or would you simply inject

2 grams of Test E and 800mg of Deca every 7 days.

The reason I ask is that works out to be 12 cc’s of gear a week and I was thinking of adding Tren Ace in there at 100mg per day or another 7 cc’s per week which would bring it up to 19cc, per week

This makes my butt hurt just thinking about it.

 

[DBBT]

I'm gonna do 10g of Test for 12 weeks and report back as soon as I start to look like yates. I'm guess give me like 36 months.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson


Do you think I should inject

1 gram of Test E and 400 mg of Deca every 3.5 days

Or would you simply inject

2 grams of Test E and 800mg of Deca every 7 days.

The reason I ask is that works out to be 12 cc’s of gear a week and I was thinking of adding Tren Ace in there at 100mg per day or another 7 cc’s per week which would bring it up to 19cc, per week

This makes my butt hurt just thinking about it.

I get it. You don't like what I've been saying so you've decided to be facitious, right? Dude, like I said -- whatever you want. But let's not try and sell extreme behavior as the standard.

Tell you what, post your pic up against Don's so we can see how well your 2000mg cycle worked up against his 20 mg cycle. Okay?

 

[Inhibitor13]

Some spot on (and funny) responses.

A point that bears repeating is the caloric intake. When you're on gear and in an anabolic state your body processes food differently. It turns amino acids into muscle and nutrients into strength and glycogen into increased blood volume. To deprive it of every calorie you can force in to your face is a waste. This is why I don't like "cutters". They don't make the best use of the drugs. Get lean, then roid.

Nelson- So are you saying to keep the calories high even when dieting? ( Im a dumbass at times)

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson- So are you saying to keep the calories high even when dieting? ( Im a dumbass at times)

No, I'm saying you have to cut calories when dieting which is why it's a waste to use steroids while cutting, since steroids maximize nutrients.

The little bit of anti catabolism isn't worth it. You'd be better off losing the fat (and a teeny bit of muscle) and then using the gear with fresh receptors and you'll make much better gains .