What league am I in?

[healother]

As far as it goes for dating women, what league am I in?

If you want to know what i look like, here is a few pics of me:
http://meetme.hotornot.com/r/?emid=GMAQB8O


Details:
I am an introvert, never been kissed, work as a desktop support person, make a little less than average income yearly. I still live at home with my parents, because i dont feel my job is stable. I'm 23.
I'm smart, nice, honest, and can be funny. My self esteem probably isnt as good as it could be though, and in general i tend to be unhappy by myself and wish I had a woman. I dont have much of a social life, or many interests.

If any more details need to be asked to determine what league I'm in, feel free to ask.

I know technically that any man can get any woman if he puts his mind to it, but lets admit it, leagues still exist. And I want to know, on average, what kind of girl would be attracted to me? How attractive should the girls be that I go after, which ones are in my league?

 

[H_T_]

you're sexually comatose.

 

[heatherrae]

ummmmmmm...









T-ball?

 

[heatherrae]

PS...now I know that you are an alter. That description of yourself is just too over the top to be real.

 

[H_T_]

PS...now I know that you are an alter. That description of yourself is just too over the top to be real.

oh, for fucks sake. another alter? this is pretty much the consensus, though...

 

[Lestat]

looks wise you are fine man, its the confidence that you need to work on, your "game" for lack of a better term.

 

[rudeboyja]

Really if you have to ask you already know it is somewhere towards the bottom.

 

[nimbus]

take a picture somewhere where it's not obvious that you're at your parents' house

 

[heatherrae]

actually, the guy in the pics is quite good looking. Nice square jawline.

 

[rudeboyja]

actually, the guy in the pics is quite good looking. Nice square jawline.

There you go homeboy. Sounds like you already have the panties halfway down

 

[H_T_]

i recommend: sunlight & a barbell set.

 

[heatherrae]

There you go homeboy. Sounds like you already have the panties halfway down

lol...I don't make out with alters.

 

[nimbus]

your pic reminds me of the creepy dude in the da vinci code movie.

PUT THE KEYSTONE ON THE TAYHBEL!!!

 

[healother]

PS...now I know that you are an alter. That description of yourself is just too over the top to be real.

im not an alter. whats gotten into you lately? it seems like u are against me now, when u used to be for me

looks wise you are fine man, its the confidence that you need to work on, your "game" for lack of a better term.

as is, with my confidence where its at, what types of women are in my league?

ill work on my confidence and make that better over time, but in the mean time i could use a woman.

 

[calveless wonder]

yeah, whiffle ball
but you can change that.

wow dude....
you really do need more self confidence if you're talking about leagues. That's called a limiting belief

as a semi nerd to pimp type story, i'll give you this advice

fuck leagues....it's how about you present and carry yourself. If you put anybody on a pedestal, then you're always going to lose.

looks are important...but confidence is more.
Start lifting, get a cool haircut, change your clothing style...create an identity for yourself. Do things to better your life and that will improve your confidence.

Right now you have no foundation. You'll never get girls without a foundation for YOURSELF. If you don't like yourself, it's impossible for anyone else. Find hobbies, start lifting, find a real career or passion

all i did was play video games when i was younger.....i was liked in school, but never desired. wasn't very good at sports...a little chubby.
then i transformed myself. I used my video game skills to make money ( i became a professional gamer, seriously lol). Used it to start my own ebay business.
THen when i started making money i got really into style and bought new clothes, some badass jewelry, redid my hair.This was in high school too..
All that shit made me feel great....and i became the most desireable guy in my high school and college because i stood out and had an aura.

you got alot of shit to work on, start with yourself....then everything else will develop


and if you're a fuckin alter and i just wasted my time spilling all this deep shit out to you i will crush you!!!otherwise follow my advice

 

[Gymgurl]

You should have no problems meeting girls....Great jaw line!

 

[musclemom]

We need to red this twinkie into oblivion WAY more than YoungGuns.

Sucker gives Christians a bad name

 

[calveless wonder]

is this fxygel2 again?

 

[H_T_]

You should have no problems meeting girls....Great jaw line!

lol!!! how bout one of your daughters? he's not age discriminant.

 

[biteme]

If he's a alter. I love it. haha. You're a good looking dude btw.

 

[heatherrae]

im not an alter. whats gotten into you lately? it seems like u are against me now, when u used to be for me



as is, with my confidence where its at, what types of women are in my league?

ill work on my confidence and make that better over time, but in the mean time i could use a woman.

No way you would type that you have "no interests" if you were for real. Seriously, you really need to retype that to accentuate the positive.

 

[biteme]

No way you would type that you have "no interests" if you were for real. Seriously, you really need to retype that to accentuate the positive.

Sounds like something I'd type. Read my myspace page. Just means I don't give a fuck what people think.

 

[healother]

yeah, whiffle ball
but you can change that.

wow dude....
you really do need more self confidence if you're talking about leagues. That's called a limiting belief

as a semi nerd to pimp type story, i'll give you this advice

fuck leagues....it's how about you present and carry yourself. If you put anybody on a pedestal, then you're always going to lose.

looks are important...but confidence is more.
Start lifting, get a cool haircut, change your clothing style...create an identity for yourself. Do things to better your life and that will improve your confidence.

Right now you have no foundation. You'll never get girls without a foundation for YOURSELF. If you don't like yourself, it's impossible for anyone else. Find hobbies, start lifting, find a real career or passion

all i did was play video games when i was younger.....i was liked in school, but never desired. wasn't very good at sports...a little chubby.
then i transformed myself. I used my video game skills to make money ( i became a professional gamer, seriously lol). Used it to start my own ebay business.
THen when i started making money i got really into style and bought new clothes, some badass jewelry, redid my hair.This was in high school too..
All that shit made me feel great....and i became the most desireable guy in my high school and college because i stood out and had an aura.

you got alot of shit to work on, start with yourself....then everything else will develop


and if you're a fuckin alter and i just wasted my time spilling all this deep shit out to you i will crush you!!!otherwise follow my advice

i know that leagues do exist, and i know that dating can be much less of a headache when i stick with women in my league. So i wouldnt put the blame on me not having self confidence, its moreso that knowing how leagues work can save me a lot of time and effort in the dating game if i stick to women in my league.

I have no desire to lift, get a dif haircut or change my clothing style. all these things are external and not a part of me. to be focused on the external is silly. thats like when women focus on a man's wallet.

My foundation is simply doing things I like. I dont care to impress anyone by having a million bucks of income yearly or a million hobbies or skills that im good at.

im not an alter, i am who i say i am, i am p60, ive been coming to this forum since 2001. (but obviously this isnt my original account)

 

[healother]

You should have no problems meeting girls....Great jaw line!

thank you
unfortuntaly i do have problems meeting them though

is this fxygel2 again?

yes

If he's a alter. I love it. haha. You're a good looking dude btw.

thanks im not an alter btw.

No way you would type that you have "no interests" if you were for real. Seriously, you really need to retype that to accentuate the positive.

i just feel that i am a lot more simple than many people. for me, eating, or sleeping, or talking to people and figuring out life, is an interest. who needs hobbies? why put in the effort to have one of those if its more work than fun?

 

[heavy_duty]

Your league needs 12 weeks of TEST @ 500 and Anavar @ 60

As far as it goes for dating women, what league am I in?

If you want to know what i look like, here is a few pics of me:
http://meetme.hotornot.com/r/?emid=GMAQB8O


kind of girl would be attracted to me? How attractive should the girls be that I go after, which ones are in my league?

 

[heavy_duty]

I agree
no more red on YG all on healyoungboyz

We need to red this twinkie into oblivion WAY more than YoungGuns.

Sucker gives Christians a bad name

 

[Scotsman]

There really isn't such a thing as leagues. Otherwise you'd never see super hot girls with greasy assed stringy hair fucks.

The only thing believing in leagues is going to do is prevent you from dating a huge portion of the population of the opposite sex. As soon as you think someone is too good for you they'll see your lack of confidence and not give you the time of day.

Confidence is the important part.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[jackangel]

if anyone has had the pleasure of reading his posts over the months and even years, it should be clear that there is no consistency to the things he says. the overall tone and attitude coming across shifts in retarded, unreasonable ways.

"I have no desire to lift, get a dif haircut or change my clothing style. all these things are external and not a part of me. to be focused on the external is silly."

^^ this is the latest fucking nonsense...anyone saying this shit is either a true moron, or acting like one for his own amusement.

 

[Spartacus]

don't label yourself as "sweet"
use "generous"
chciks dig generous

 

[healother]

There really isn't such a thing as leagues. Otherwise you'd never see super hot girls with greasy assed stringy hair fucks.

The only thing believing in leagues is going to do is prevent you from dating a huge portion of the population of the opposite sex. As soon as you think someone is too good for you they'll see your lack of confidence and not give you the time of day.

Confidence is the important part.

Cheers,
Scotsman

sometimes i feel im missing out because im chasing after women who wont accept me for who i am. I feel like maybe the reason they dont accept me is because they think they are too good for me. Whereas when i talk to fatter women, they tend to be more accepting of me. so by dropping my standards, i find more accepting women and that means less of a headache to me.

if anyone has had the pleasure of reading his posts over the months and even years, it should be clear that there is no consistency to the things he says. the overall tone and attitude coming across shifts in retarded, unreasonable ways.

"I have no desire to lift, get a dif haircut or change my clothing style. all these things are external and not a part of me. to be focused on the external is silly."

^^ this is the latest fucking nonsense...anyone saying this shit is either a true moron, or acting like one for his own amusement.

i discovered long ago that lifting did very little to attract the chicks. I used to try to style my hair, wear nice clothes, tan, lift and workout and diet all the time, and i was goodlooking, but i never helped me get any tang. and my life sucked 24/7 because i was working my ass off trying to make myself look attractive. even if i was getting tang it still wouldnt have been worth it because the other 90% of the time id be pissed off, tired, hungry, dolled up, abercrombie looking, etc. i'd hate it.

 

[H_T_]

you know what i do to attract women? i act like a man. i stare at their asses, i tell them the crude thoughts i have about them, look at their boobs while they talk to me, burp, fart, eat what's on my plate and then whats left on theirs. quit trying to be their gaddam sister or best friend.

 

[heatherrae]

sometimes i feel im missing out because im chasing after women who wont accept me for who i am. I feel like maybe the reason they dont accept me is because they think they are too good for me. Whereas when i talk to fatter women, they tend to be more accepting of me. so by dropping my standards, i find more accepting women and that means less of a headache to me.



i discovered long ago that lifting did very little to attract the chicks. I used to try to style my hair, wear nice clothes, tan, lift and workout and diet all the time, and i was goodlooking, but i never helped me get any tang. and my life sucked 24/7 because i was working my ass off trying to make myself look attractive. even if i was getting tang it still wouldnt have been worth it because the other 90% of the time id be pissed off, tired, hungry, dolled up, abercrombie looking, etc. i'd hate it.

There is a difference between doing stuff just to please someone and doing them because you enjoy them.

So, you are basically saying that you have absolutely no ambition to ever do anything in life except eat, sleep and live at home with your parents? You don't want anything for your life? You have nothing that interests you or that you hope for? ???

 

[calveless wonder]

"I have no desire to lift, get a dif haircut or change my clothing style. all these things are external and not a part of me. to be focused on the external is silly."

^^ this is the latest fucking nonsense...anyone saying this shit is either a true moron, or acting like one for his own amusement.

LOL My thoughts exactly.

 

[musclemom]

There is a difference between doing stuff just to please someone and doing them because you enjoy them.

So, you are basically saying that you have absolutely no ambition to ever do anything in life except eat, sleep and live at home with your parents? You don't want anything for your life? You have nothing that interests you or that you hope for? ???

Kids today ... this is NOT that uncommon in this age group, I'm telling you.

And people think I'm evil for saying a few years in the military (no overseas tours) right out of high school should be mandatory.

 

[samoth]

I have no desire to lift, get a dif haircut or change my clothing style.

Then why the hell have you been posting on a steroid/workout discussion board for all these years?

*sounds of campfire crackling*

 

[Yarg!]

im not an alter. whats gotten into you lately? it seems like u are against me now, when u used to be for me



as is, with my confidence where its at, what types of women are in my league?

ill work on my confidence and make that better over time, but in the mean time i could use a woman.

LOL

healother will single handidly save christianity one day

 

[musclemom]

Hasn't this pansy ass mutherfucker killed himself yet? Is he at least to the point where he's slamming his dick in a drawer or something?

 

[velvett]

Oh hell, you're at the bus stop of the E10 line to the tennis courts looking for the pitcher and the shortstop and you've realized you left your money, bus ticket and wallet at home.

 

[musclemom]

Oh hell, you're at the bus stop of the E10 line to the tennis courts looking for the pitcher and the shortstop and you've realized you left your money, bus ticket and wallet at home.

Now THIS is a woman who has an interesting way of looking at life ...

BTW I've given out too much karma

 

[youngguns]

Now THIS is a woman who has an interesting way of looking at life ...

BTW I've given out too much karma

 

[healother]

you know what i do to attract women? i act like a man. i stare at their asses, i tell them the crude thoughts i have about them, look at their boobs while they talk to me, burp, fart, eat what's on my plate and then whats left on theirs. quit trying to be their gaddam sister or best friend.

i dunno, i just went out tonight to a bar with a dance floor, and had a horrible time. right now im at the point where i feel like id do anything to get a woman or to attract them as long as i didnt lie or disrespect them. of course tomorrow ill wake up and feel lazy again

There is a difference between doing stuff just to please someone and doing them because you enjoy them.

So, you are basically saying that you have absolutely no ambition to ever do anything in life except eat, sleep and live at home with your parents? You don't want anything for your life? You have nothing that interests you or that you hope for? ???

lots of ppl on these forums are telling me to do things just to please women. i think thats very unsatisfying in the long run.

I have very little ambition. I go to work, and then go home and go on the computer most nights. on the computer i try to talk to women i meet online, then i ponder why my life sucks with women and i post on various forums about it to try to find solutions. when i go out to try to meet women, i am really shy and depressed so i usually dont meet anyone. women are pretty much the only thing i want at the moment, and i still dont try hard enough to get one. women are currently what i hope for. and to move out and live in my own house someday. i also hope to one day get back in shape again to the way i was in highschool only better. also i hope to find more hobbies and make more friends.

the only way i would ever consider professional help would be if i could get it in multiple areas of my life, professional help towards mental health, professional help at becoming a better dancer, professional help at making friends, meeting women, etc.
there is no use living life unless i can live it and be happy.

but i have some major obstacles to get past, one of them is my religion which basically teaches that we arent supposed to have lives. Christ's sole purpose on earth was to serve others, and put others completely before himself. If I had to do that, and i had no time left for me, I'd rather not be alive.

also theres the whole sexual rules and guidelines regarding christianity.

i hope its not hopeless, i hope i can heal my brain and find answers and learn how to live and make myself happy, but right now it isnt working.

 

[youngguns]

the gay league

 

[biteme]

i dunno, i just went out tonight to a bar with a dance floor, and had a horrible time. right now im at the point where i feel like id do anything to get a woman or to attract them as long as i didnt lie or disrespect them. of course tomorrow ill wake up and feel lazy again



lots of ppl on these forums are telling me to do things just to please women. i think thats very unsatisfying in the long run.

I have very little ambition. I go to work, and then go home and go on the computer most nights. on the computer i try to talk to women i meet online, then i ponder why my life sucks with women and i post on various forums about it to try to find solutions. when i go out to try to meet women, i am really shy and depressed so i usually dont meet anyone. women are pretty much the only thing i want at the moment, and i still dont try hard enough to get one. women are currently what i hope for. and to move out and live in my own house someday. i also hope to one day get back in shape again to the way i was in highschool only better. also i hope to find more hobbies and make more friends.

the only way i would ever consider professional help would be if i could get it in multiple areas of my life, professional help towards mental health, professional help at becoming a better dancer, professional help at making friends, meeting women, etc.
there is no use living life unless i can live it and be happy.

but i have some major obstacles to get past, one of them is my religion which basically teaches that we arent supposed to have lives. Christ's sole purpose on earth was to serve others, and put others completely before himself. If I had to do that, and i had no time left for me, I'd rather not be alive.

also theres the whole sexual rules and guidelines regarding christianity.

i hope its not hopeless, i hope i can heal my brain and find answers and learn how to live and make myself happy, but right now it isnt working.

Biteme feels your pain

 

[healother]

Then why the hell have you been posting on a steroid/workout discussion board for all these years?

*sounds of campfire crackling*

i guess once i find my little spot, i dont like to move. awhile ago I came onto these forums back when i used to workout. I was in sports and cared about the sports and I also wanted to workout to look good because i knew that would give me an advantage with women.

eventually when highschool and sports ended for me, and when i got tired of working out for women (which didnt help me get any) i burnt out and almost completely stopped working out. but ive stuck around here since, the rest is history.

Hasn't this pansy ass mutherfucker killed himself yet? Is he at least to the point where he's slamming his dick in a drawer or something?

no and if thats what your waiting for, im going to stick around, just to piss you off.

Biteme feels your pain

how is life going for you at the moment?

 

[Tony_Ducks]

My two cents, you need to get raging drunk, hit on everything and ask every girl in the bar to kiss you (bring mistletoe). When they say that you are late, New Years was four months ago, accuse them of being late and they have to use their tongue, when they refuse again, say c'mon.......c'mon..... til they do it.
Then get arrested, spend a month in jail with morons and harden up there, just sitting there learning to play cards and how they fucked some woman. If they can do it, so can you, just an attitude shift. I think only jailtime can do that for you.
Good luck

 

[biteme]

i guess once i find my little spot, i dont like to move. awhile ago I came onto these forums back when i used to workout. I was in sports and cared about the sports and I also wanted to workout to look good because i knew that would give me an advantage with women.

eventually when highschool and sports ended for me, and when i got tired of working out for women (which didnt help me get any) i burnt out and almost completely stopped working out. but ive stuck around here since, the rest is history.



no and if thats what your waiting for, im going to stick around, just to piss you off.



how is life going for you at the moment?

It's going well. I'm engaged and have regular great sex.... I was shy with women as well and didn't have a gf until I was 18. I had lots of one night stands in my early 20's, but didn't have another serious gf until I was 24 and I married her. I had a great body too, but it didn't get me laid as often as I thought, because I was too shy. Sounds like the only thing that really important to you is landing that perfect woman for you. Keep trying, it's worth the effort.

 

[biteme]

I was a 1 woman kind of guy, but my ex-girlfriend turned me into a slut. I loved her greatly and at the demise of our relationship, I was devastated. She turned into a slut, so I decided to not let her have all the fun, so I joined her in her sluttery. That girl nearly ruined me.

 

[Yarg!]

the league of extraordinary gentlemen.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

your league sucks

you need to join a new one

do what i said in PMs

yia

 

[Spartacus]

I suggest you return to the gym and workout again
improve your physique not as a means to impress woman,but to enhance your moods and health
and perhaps try chatting up a gal in the gym who is likely there for similar purposes
instead of hustling pussy in a nightclub

 

[musclemom]

i guess once i find my little spot, i dont like to move. awhile ago I came onto these forums back when i used to workout. I was in sports and cared about the sports and I also wanted to workout to look good because i knew that would give me an advantage with women.

eventually when highschool and sports ended for me, and when i got tired of working out for women (which didnt help me get any) i burnt out and almost completely stopped working out. but ive stuck around here since, the rest is history.

See, SEE RIGHT THERE that's where you're screwed up, you simple shit. You're looking at relationships like this is some sort of game of Stratego.

You're not hooking because of how you look, I've seen a lot funnier looking guys have a nice girlfried. The goofiest looking guy on EARTH can have a nice girlfriend IF HE HAS A PERSONALITY!

True story, I'm gonna give you a pearl of MM wisdom:

When I was 17/18 I was dating a very attractive guy (shit this guy was H-O-T). My best friend was dating HIS best friend, who was like 6'3", weighed ABOUT 145, had bad hair, bad skin, and a HUGE nose. The guy I was dating was a knockout, but shy. His buddy was down right FUNNY looking, and had NO trouble scoring and ALWAYS had a good looking girlfriend. He had one of the nicest personalities, he was thoughtful, a terrific conversationalist, funny as hell, a genuine pleasure to be around. Everyone liked him.

That was when I made my big "breakthrough" when it comes to men and women:

1. Any girl can get a guy, she just has to be easy, either easy on the eyes or an easy lay. Sooner or later, she's bound to run across a guy who's happy with that. I once met a couple that literally met at a gangbang and she was pulling a train.

2. Any guy can get a girl, he just has to have EITHER looks or personality. Doesn't matter WHICH. The goofiest looking bastard on earth can find a woman, if he has a nice personality. Hot guys don't need a good personality because, much like the easy girl, sooner or later they will find a woman who is totally content to be with a guy who is JUST THAT GOOD LOOKING.

3. The first two are extreme cases. Most humans fall somewhere in the middle. When you're particularly UNattractive you generally have to cultivate a skill to attract a mate, but it's NOT impossible. When you're "average" you need to have a balance. You need to have a half way decent personality to offset the fact you're not Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie, in other words.

Healother, you are a perfectly normal looking young man. Clearly the reason you don't have a girlfriend is that your personality utterly sucks. It's why you get bombed and everyone's sick of you here. And I'll tell you what I've seen here on the boards:

You're whiney. Girls don't like that.

You're probably sending as many mixed signals in real life as you do on this board. Girls don't like that.

You're 23 with no plans, dreams or ambitions. The real reason you live with your parents is that you have no goals. Girls don't trust that, that makes you sound like your 13 not 23.

You sound like you have no ambition, no drive. NOBODY likes that.

In short, you're an average looking dude, with a piss poor attitude, who's just drifting through his life pissing and moaning about how none of any of this is his fault. Yeah, that's real attractive. You want to attract a nice girl and THAT's what you're OFFERING?!? Get a frigging grip.

Don't blame this on Christianity, or women, or your virginity. Put the blame squarely where it belongs, YOU. Now do something about it and FIX it. Get some frigging help, talk to a qualified professional, maybe get on some meds and stop being such a whiny bore ass drippy milksop.

 

[sardonicone]

If I made an alter, it would be of this ultra cool guy who is nothing like me.

 

[Gambino]

as far as leagues go,
i would say you tried out for t-ball, but you got cut.

 

[nefertiti]

Harsh truth, and I'll be repeating some of what musclemom says: Your league sucks because your attitude sucks. You look ok, as others have mentioned you have a nice jawline. HOWEVER, combine that with everything I see here and we are not looking at an overall attractive package. I'm a good looking girl, and I've dated guys that could model for Calvin Klein and I've dated guys that aren't even half as attractive as you. One had big ears, a big nose, red har, and freckles all over the place. But truth be told, I was crazy about him because he was fun, HILARIOUS, passionate, confident, and sweet to me.

Bottom line, you seem like you have no direction, no confidence, no swagger, you look ok but reek of desperation.

The cure: Find something you are passionate about. If you have no interests, FIND some. Get into something. While you're there, you'll meet other women who are passionate about that thing too. But don't do it for the women, do it for YOU. They will just fall into place.

Work out. Again, not for the women. For YOU. As your body reshapes as a result of your hard work, you will begin to feel better about yourself. You will carry yourself differently. Women will notice. Again...don't do it so they'll notice, do it for YOU and the rest will just happen.

Be proactive about your life. You are in the driver seat, act like it.

 

[musclemom]

Harsh truth, and I'll be repeating some of what musclemom says: Your league sucks because your attitude sucks. You look ok, as others have mentioned you have a nice jawline. HOWEVER, combine that with everything I see here and we are not looking at an overall attractive package. I'm a good looking girl, and I've dated guys that could model for Calvin Klein and I've dated guys that aren't even half as attractive as you. One had big ears, a big nose, red har, and freckles all over the place. But truth be told, I was crazy about him because he was fun, HILARIOUS, passionate, confident, and sweet to me.

Bottom line, you seem like you have no direction, no confidence, no swagger, you look ok but reek of desperation.

The cure: Find something you are passionate about. If you have no interests, FIND some. Get into something. While you're there, you'll meet other women who are passionate about that thing too. But don't do it for the women, do it for YOU. They will just fall into place.

Work out. Again, not for the women. For YOU. As your body reshapes as a result of your hard work, you will begin to feel better about yourself. You will carry yourself differently. Women will notice. Again...don't do it so they'll notice, do it for YOU and the rest will just happen.

Be proactive about your life. You are in the driver seat, act like it.

^^^^ WHAT SHE SAID!!!

You have to do it for you! When you're happy in your life, a person who will be happy to be WITH you will literally fall into your lap.

I dont have much of a social life, or many interests.

Fix that ^^^ first.

For heaven's sake, if you're such a good Christian, find a nice bible study group! What is WRONG with you? There are plenty of churchs that have regular dinners, get togethers, summer retreats, shit like that.

If it's important to you to be involved with a female who has similar ethical/spiritual beliefs, you ain't gonna find her in a bar or club, numbnuts, you find her at a church picnic

 

[healother]

your league sucks

you need to join a new one

do what i said in PMs

yia

Ok so watch the david deangelo series? I dont mind taking advice from a guy, but i wont do anything that involves lying to women or deceiving them. Honesty is a part of my dignity and i wont lose that for a woman.

It's going well. I'm engaged and have regular great sex.... I was shy with women as well and didn't have a gf until I was 18. I had lots of one night stands in my early 20's, but didn't have another serious gf until I was 24 and I married her. I had a great body too, but it didn't get me laid as often as I thought, because I was too shy. Sounds like the only thing that really important to you is landing that perfect woman for you. Keep trying, it's worth the effort.

thanks, thats an encouraging story from you. ill keep trying. do you regret having sex all those times in your early 20s?

I suggest you return to the gym and workout again
improve your physique not as a means to impress woman,but to enhance your moods and health
and perhaps try chatting up a gal in the gym who is likely there for similar purposes
instead of hustling pussy in a nightclub

i heard the gym is the worst place to meet women cuz most women there have their guard up and dont want to meet a guy but just want to workout.

i mean why else are all these 'women only' gyms becoming such a fad?

See, SEE RIGHT THERE that's where you're screwed up, you simple shit. You're looking at relationships like this is some sort of game of Stratego.

You're not hooking because of how you look, I've seen a lot funnier looking guys have a nice girlfried. The goofiest looking guy on EARTH can have a nice girlfriend IF HE HAS A PERSONALITY!

True story, I'm gonna give you a pearl of MM wisdom:

When I was 17/18 I was dating a very attractive guy (shit this guy was H-O-T). My best friend was dating HIS best friend, who was like 6'3", weighed ABOUT 145, had bad hair, bad skin, and a HUGE nose. The guy I was dating was a knockout, but shy. His buddy was down right FUNNY looking, and had NO trouble scoring and ALWAYS had a good looking girlfriend. He had one of the nicest personalities, he was thoughtful, a terrific conversationalist, funny as hell, a genuine pleasure to be around. Everyone liked him.

That was when I made my big "breakthrough" when it comes to men and women:

1. Any girl can get a guy, she just has to be easy, either easy on the eyes or an easy lay. Sooner or later, she's bound to run across a guy who's happy with that. I once met a couple that literally met at a gangbang and she was pulling a train.

2. Any guy can get a girl, he just has to have EITHER looks or personality. Doesn't matter WHICH. The goofiest looking bastard on earth can find a woman, if he has a nice personality. Hot guys don't need a good personality because, much like the easy girl, sooner or later they will find a woman who is totally content to be with a guy who is JUST THAT GOOD LOOKING.

3. The first two are extreme cases. Most humans fall somewhere in the middle. When you're particularly UNattractive you generally have to cultivate a skill to attract a mate, but it's NOT impossible. When you're "average" you need to have a balance. You need to have a half way decent personality to offset the fact you're not Brad Pitt or Angelina Jolie, in other words.

Healother, you are a perfectly normal looking young man. Clearly the reason you don't have a girlfriend is that your personality utterly sucks. It's why you get bombed and everyone's sick of you here. And I'll tell you what I've seen here on the boards:

You're whiney. Girls don't like that.

You're probably sending as many mixed signals in real life as you do on this board. Girls don't like that.

You're 23 with no plans, dreams or ambitions. The real reason you live with your parents is that you have no goals. Girls don't trust that, that makes you sound like your 13 not 23.

You sound like you have no ambition, no drive. NOBODY likes that.

In short, you're an average looking dude, with a piss poor attitude, who's just drifting through his life pissing and moaning about how none of any of this is his fault. Yeah, that's real attractive. You want to attract a nice girl and THAT's what you're OFFERING?!? Get a frigging grip.

Don't blame this on Christianity, or women, or your virginity. Put the blame squarely where it belongs, YOU. Now do something about it and FIX it. Get some frigging help, talk to a qualified professional, maybe get on some meds and stop being such a whiny bore ass drippy milksop.

my personality is just fine. Im sorry but i bring all my problems to this board, which is why this board is sick of me. in real life i dont pester people like that if i like them, because i want to either become tight with them, make her my girlfriend or whatever.

my dreams right now are to move out. and to meet a woman.
why should i worry about being whiney on here? its not like im going to meet you people in real life, so who am i trying to impress? This is where i leave all my baggage, and get all the whininess out of my system so i dont have to take it into the real world with me.
its just a forum for fucks sakes.

anyways, thanks for at least offering good advice this time instead of telling me to commit suicide.

 

[calveless wonder]

what a retard.....i have no sympathy people who have no desire to improve themselves or better themselves. It's the basic principle of life. if you're not living this is, you might as well be dead.
i always root for and try to help underdog, but some people just don't get it.

Your frame of mind sucks.
What you don't understand is the motivation behind everything is what makes it true to self or not.

Step into this world for a second.
Why do i work out and eat well? Because it makes me healthy, it's fun, and i enjoy pushing myself to its limits. The fact the body is in good shape is a result of that.
Why am i passionate about my career? Because i help people, i'm fuckin good at it and i enjoy interacting with people. The money( which is amazing) is a byproduct of that.
Why do i dress nice and make sure i always look fresh? Because i wouldn't be doing my body or myself justice by wearing some shitty clothing.

it's about doing things because you respect yourself, not trying to impress other people. Don't focus on the end result...because you'll never be truly motivated. You'll never get a chick thinking the way you are. And your existence is a conflict alone because of your jaded religious views.

And another thing..you don't have to lie or deceive women to get them. You just have to understand how attraction works. You obviously don't, so work on it.

"Poor is the man who pleasures depend on the permission of others"

 

[healother]

as far as leagues go,
i would say you tried out for t-ball, but you got cut.

so basically right now im only elligible to fuck a Hippopotamus?

Bottom line, you seem like you have no direction, no confidence, no swagger, you look ok but reek of desperation.

The cure: Find something you are passionate about. If you have no interests, FIND some. Get into something. While you're there, you'll meet other women who are passionate about that thing too. But don't do it for the women, do it for YOU. They will just fall into place.

Work out. Again, not for the women. For YOU. As your body reshapes as a result of your hard work, you will begin to feel better about yourself. You will carry yourself differently. Women will notice. Again...don't do it so they'll notice, do it for YOU and the rest will just happen.

Be proactive about your life. You are in the driver seat, act like it.

ok, if i get involved in passions and interests though, i need to at least pick ones that can be easily shared with other people too, right?
i dont want to pick a hobby like dungeons and dragons, or video games, or something that turns me into a social recluse.
And i want to have a hobby that can be shared with men and women easily.

lets face it we cant be happy all alone, we need friends at least to be happy.

^^^^ WHAT SHE SAID!!!

You have to do it for you! When you're happy in your life, a person who will be happy to be WITH you will literally fall into your lap.

Fix that ^^^ first.

For heaven's sake, if you're such a good Christian, find a nice bible study group! What is WRONG with you? There are plenty of churchs that have regular dinners, get togethers, summer retreats, shit like that.

If it's important to you to be involved with a female who has similar ethical/spiritual beliefs, you ain't gonna find her in a bar or club, numbnuts, you find her at a church picnic

Yeah, the bible study ones can be good, but when they say no kissing til marriage that turns me off.

also the thing about the club, is that its a great achievement if i can go and succeed at attracting girls on the dance floor, or just be able to ask a hot girl for her number and hangout with her, etc. i want to be desired. i want to make myself more attractive.

what a retard.....i have no sympathy people who have no desire to improve themselves or better themselves. It's the basic principle of life. if you're not living this is, you might as well be dead.
i always root for and try to help underdog, but some people just don't get it.

Your frame of mind sucks.
What you don't understand is the motivation behind everything is what makes it true to self or not.

Step into this world for a second.
Why do i work out and eat well? Because it makes me healthy, it's fun, and i enjoy pushing myself to its limits. The fact the body is in good shape is a result of that.
Why am i passionate about my career? Because i help people, i'm fuckin good at it and i enjoy interacting with people. The money( which is amazing) is a byproduct of that.
Why do i dress nice and make sure i always look fresh? Because i wouldn't be doing my body or myself justice by wearing some shitty clothing.

it's about doing things because you respect yourself, not trying to impress other people. Don't focus on the end result...because you'll never be truly motivated. You'll never get a chick thinking the way you are. And your existence is a conflict alone because of your jaded religious views.

And another thing..you don't have to lie or deceive women to get them. You just have to understand how attraction works. You obviously don't, so work on it.

"Poor is the man who pleasures depend on the permission of others"

the way i am trying to improve my life right now is by scoring an attractive woman. thats the big thing on my radar.

the thing about doing things for only ourselves is that its great up until we realize that we are alone.

humans werent meant to be on this earth alone.

what do you suggest i do, spend 100% of my time by myself? THen i would know for sure that i am only doing things for myself and not other people.

 

[musclemom]

so basically right now im only elligible to fuck a Hippopotamus?

Okay, first of all fat chicks need love too, and guess what, there's plenty of guys who LIKE to date the thicker ones because a) they're not all neurotic about "Am I Thin Enough?" and b) Its fun to go out with a girl who enjoys her food and drink as much as a guy does.

My son went through a phase where he was just bringing home bigger girls. Told me they were nicer and they were more fun.

ok, if i get involved in passions and interests though, i need to at least pick ones that can be easily shared with other people too, right?
i dont want to pick a hobby like dungeons and dragons, or video games, or something that turns me into a social recluse.
And i want to have a hobby that can be shared with men and women easily.

lets face it we cant be happy all alone, we need friends at least to be happy.

Told you, church related group activities. There's tons of christian based stuff, you just start searching. Bible study, youth groups, volunteer stuff, Christian retreats.

Don't tell me pagans do stuff that Christians don't? Our whole spirituality revolves around group activities if you want to be involved in that aspect (some people choose to be solitares). Our rituals are communal, we eat communally after ritual. Then we periodically get together and do retreats, sweat lodges, educational weekends, etc.

 

[calveless wonder]

This is guy is either an alter, a complete moron, or just likes to fuck with us....
i give up.
no one can be this pathetic...i've had some friends in the past that weren't the most socially adept, but jesus....at least they were receptive in changing.

you come online for a message board and ask for advice but yet you don't listen to the advice anybody gives you and refute everything.

so go ahead, live the same pathetic existence you've been living until you wake up when you're 32 years old in your parents basement and realize "wow, maybe those guys on elitefitness had something right".

and you wonder why you never get laid.

wanna get laid now? GO find someone with as zero self respect as yourself. Just wear protection because we don't need an anti christ

YOU WILL NEVER SCORE WITH A HOT GIRL UNLESS YOU DRUG HER OR RAPE HER.. WITH YOUR CURRENT ATTITUDE AND PHILOSOPHY ON LIFE. HOT GIRLS DON'T LIKE NEEDY, WHINEY, INSECURE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO GOALS, NO SKILLS AND NO RESPECT FOR THEMSELVES.

 

[Yarg!]

reading his posts and his non compliance approach to all the good advice given out to him actually makes me feel physically ill. i actually get nauseaus reading this shit. ive never encountered anyone who's head was so far up their ass.

 

[musclemom]

reading his posts and his non compliance approach to all the good advice given out to him actually makes me feel physically ill. i actually get nauseaus reading this shit. ive never encountered anyone who's head was so far up their ass.

Red him honey. You know it'll make you feel better

 

[healother]

Okay, first of all fat chicks need love too, and guess what, there's plenty of guys who LIKE to date the thicker ones because a) they're not all neurotic about "Am I Thin Enough?" and b) Its fun to go out with a girl who enjoys her food and drink as much as a guy does.

My son went through a phase where he was just bringing home bigger girls. Told me they were nicer and they were more fun.

fat chicks need lovin? yea, but whats your point? I mean I need lovin too, but I'm not asking people to bang me who arent comfortable doing so.
I'll let the fat chick lovers fuck the fat chicks.

Told you, church related group activities. There's tons of christian based stuff, you just start searching. Bible study, youth groups, volunteer stuff, Christian retreats.

Don't tell me pagans do stuff that Christians don't? Our whole spirituality revolves around group activities if you want to be involved in that aspect (some people choose to be solitares). Our rituals are communal, we eat communally after ritual. Then we periodically get together and do retreats, sweat lodges, educational weekends, etc.

im alright with doing church related stuff as long as they dont try to turn me into some chaste, constantly self sacrificing, bible verse memorizing, preaching dude. A lot of churches really love to push people to be a certain way because they beliebe thats the way God wants them to be and their its their job to make others feel they have to be that way too.

christianity revolves around group activities too. i need to find the right church though.

 

[healother]

this thread is depressing. it hurts to read it. and i didnt make it depressing, all the threadcrappers did.

 

[samoth]

this thread is depressing. it hurts to read it. and i didnt make it depressing, all the threadcrappers did.

 

[nimbus]

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SOY PHANTASMA!!

 

[jackangel]

the primary problem with your suicide is that none of us will have the satisfaction of knowing for certain that you've carried it out.

 

[biteme]

thanks, thats an encouraging story from you. ill keep trying. do you regret having sex all those times in your early 20s?[/COLOR]



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I have to admit that I don't regret it. According to God's word it is wrong, so that's the only reason I would regret it and because I could have caught something or hurt someone.

 

[samoth]

Healy, buy some Manowar and listen to what they have to say. You are so far gone that only the Manowar has the chance of saving you.

 

[Stefka]

Sure is a lot of Manowar talk tonight.

 

[samoth]

Sure is a lot of Manowar talk tonight.

Hail to the Metal Kings!!