Weener died!

[Boater]

30 yrs old
240lbs, 6'1"
lifting 4 years
diet/training on spot

Been on trt for about 6 months. Before starting my cycle I did a single 300mg shot of test c that put me on cloud nine for about a week, then returned to earth with zero libido. Resumed regular trt injections and after about 3 weeks started my cycle (still with not libido). No prior sexual problems (even before trt).

Now ending fourth week of dbol/sus 250 (and HCG) cycle that looks like this:

300mg sus 250 x 2 week
25mg dbol ED weeks 1-2
50mg dbol ED weeks 2-4
HCG 2x week

plan on continuing the dbol for another 1-2 weeks while I wait for a kick from the sus.

Problem: no libido, zilch. I do not have access to labs, but I believe this is due to high E2 (though besides libido problems, no itchy tits. Maybe a bit more emotional?). Started adex at .25mg EOD about a week and a half ago, and I believe it has helped a little, but not sure.

Have some questions floating around in my head.

Did the single shot of 300mgs elevate E2 levels and I am now behind the ball and need to blast it with adex?

Why am I beginning week 5 of my sus/dbol cycle and still no sex drive (modest gains however, but likely dbol).

By switching from my (relatively) fast acting test c to a slower tri test (sust) have I put myself in test deficiency and that is what is causing the libido issues currently?

Will when the sust kicks in I get over it?

Do I continue with adex at this level (if it is indeed E2 related) or should I crank it up a notch?

Thanks

 

[Nelson Montana]

Although the problem is most probably estrogen, "blasting " it with adex won't help. Sound like you need to get in balance as opposed to slamming your HPTA this way and that way. In the meantime, get some UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE. Get on a regular TRT program. Add BRIDGE. Get your libido back.

 

[Faststangxxx]

Have you tried hcg low dose while on TRT? Or taking clomid, one week on one week off?

 

[Boater]

Not real worried about the TRT just now. More concerned with making sure I get gains off the 8 weeks I have left in my cycle and getting my libido back.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Have you tried hcg low dose while on TRT? Or taking clomid, one week on one week off?

That would just be a temporary fix which he'd then have to readjust to afterward. And the Clomid may make it worse.

 

[Ranger11B]

i would start hcgen like now with forma and pending your plan post/unleashed.

 

[stevesmi]

trt at 30 years old.. WHY? at 6 1 and 240 either you are built like a beast or you are a good 25 pounds overweight. this right here could be your issue and i dont care how much test you inject it won't help at all. it is a proven fact guys who hold a lot of fat have less libido. its natures way of thinning the herd most likely

 

[Ranger11B]

is a proven fact guys who hold a lot of fat have less Libido. its natures way of thinning the herd most likely

dont know why but this makes me laugh....

 

[Zyglamail]

it is a proven fact guys who hold a lot of fat have less libido. its natures way of thinning the herd most likely

Fat generates estrogen, estrogen lowers libido, marriage raises fat, usually in both parties, just ask any married man

Faststangxxx, in his post he said he is doing 2x hcg. Doing so isnt going to raise libido but it will raise test allowing for more estrogen to be made.

Simple rule, dont let estrogen build up in the first place, run a properly dosed anti-e from the start and know where your natural E is before you start.

 

[Boater]

So, let me get this straight; Take some sponsored products, modify my trt regime, and lose 25lbs?

Sometimes I feel like these forums are full of a bunch of wanna be Inspector Clouseaus.

Asked five straightforward questions, and received answers for at least two questions I did not ask.

Zyg, I think your reply came closest to an answer, but need specifics.

FYI, not fat... but thanks for caring.

 

[Faststangxxx]

Hcg x 3 per week at 250-500. Start an anti estrogen. This is a start. See if it works...it worked for me and continues to work.

Continue to read these forums. Anywhere you go you will find guys who know what they are talking about and guys who don't. This will be quite obvious once you read peoples posts and threads.

I wish you the best of luck. I went through a similar situation, and my pcp had no idea what to do. He sent me to an endo who just told me to stop taking my TRT, and wouldn't give me anything for pct or to recover. Took matters into my own hands and did some actual research of TRT protocols and things have gone well since...

 

[njmuscleguy]

boater: Actually, Nelson gave you the best advice IMO... and he wasn't pimping ANY supplements... you're all over the place, not to mention you JUST started HRT 6 months ago... why would you jump onto a cycle so soon? Your response "I'm not concerned about trt" just proves that you don't have grasp on your trt, the cycle, AND the trt WITH the cycle... but of course, your only concern is to get the most gains out of your cycle (not your well-being)

 

[Ranger11B]

no one is on this thread selling brands.. do some research and find a million posts about the products we suggested being 100% effective and legit.