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Update on low test levels. My doc says TEST has NOTHING TO DO WITH BUILDING MUSCLE!!

I found a doctor here in town who specializes in HIV cases but is also a GP. He RX's testosterone/deca all day long for AIDS patients and when I approached him about supplementing my workouts with test/deca he didn't blink an eye.He did a test level exam on me-showed natural levels to be slightly lower than normal(from previous cycle) and RX'd test cypionate-10 ml vials with refills. He also is good at RX's injectible B-12 and HGH. Pays to find a doctor on the cutting edge who specializes in forward thinking therapies, and the HIV docs are usually in the forefront.
 
i would look for another doctor...one who is more up to date...there is a lot of med literature about test maintenance in men and about rx'ed it...he should know that...also find a doc who rx'ed AIDS patients..they are very much aware of the effects of steroids, in fact there was recently an important world meeting on steroid use in AIDS patients which a friend of mine's doc attended..also physical medicine docs are aware of muscle development and roids...the usual protocol is for the doc to order a test level and if low or borderline, to talk to you about taking test either by patch or shots
 
That's badass

mraus said:
I love my old doc.When I go in there he greets me like I'm one of the family and says "What gear would you like today?" I tell him Deca,He says "this stuff will never hurt ya.I've been giving it to old ladies for years to build their bones , there's nothing wrong with it"
Sustanon,Primobolan,Primoteston,Halotestin,Nolvadex anything ,6 months worth at a time ,with a smile

That's great, but I don't know how things work in Australia, but in the U.S., it is technically illegal for a physician to prescribe anabolic steroids to a "patient" unless there is a medical indication to do so... i.e. docs cannot freely prescribe roids to anybody who requests them. Unfortunate, but true. It would be great to do a LEGAL well-planned, safe steroid cycle with compounds that your doctor prescribed, along with pre-, post-, and periodic blood screens to monitor hormone levels and possible toxicities, but this is just not possible today.
 
Yozzer said:
I am paying to see a private endocrinologist on June 20th. He is apparently the 'top dog' as far as endocrinology goes. If anyone has any good technical shit that I could take with me, bring it on gurus.

Now you will get somewhere.I was under the impression that this doc you were currently seeing was an endocrinologist,so I was really surprised he wasn't placing more focus on your female hormone makeup.Tell your endocrinologist your total cycle background(substances used,how long,when you came off).Request a complete female hormone profile with serum estradiol count,progesterone,prolactin...If this guy can't get to the bottom of your problem,I'd suggest thinking about a consultation with the infamous endocrinologist Dr.Raymond Scruggs,who specializes with bodybuilding pharmacology and has vast experience with the anabolic using athlete...
 
Thanks Huck. I will take that with me. I'm just so pissed off at the moment. I want it all done now so that I can get on with achieving my goals. Until then I gotta sit round, get frustrated, lose size, and turn into a fucking woman. I spent 5 mins with the endo's assistant when I went through the NHS. Didn't even see the endo......WTF!! However, this private guy spends 40 minutes with all new patients, so atleast I may get somewhere. However, i still believe that I will just get test injections, which in all honesty is what I want cos i can't do jack shit at the moment. If he wants to do more tests and shit i'm just gonna fuck this whole thing off and self administer 100mg enanthate a week so that I can train on reasonable/safe levels of test for a while, and then think about cycling, and bridge with the low dosages of test. Some may think this is extreme, but if i don't do something soon i'm gonna have a friggin nervous break down bros. What are your thoughts on this?
All they have come up with so far is 'all you can do is wait for the body to bring t levels back up naturally'. I've had below normal t levels for 9 months now. I can't even wear a t-shirt, i'm getting quite paranoid about my appearance. The only option I have other than test injections is combining arimidex with clomid. However, I don't know if this will be successful, and it is a costly chance to take. Again it is more waiting and more tests. Any feedback on this would be great.

Maybe I would be much better off if I hadn't gone to the doc in the first place.

Yozzer
 
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Costly or not,it would be a wise decision at this point.Arimidex has been shown to be very potent at wiping out aromitase which in turn raises endogenous testosterone levels very signifigantly...In one study,users of arimidex-only(no clomid)raised their endogenous test by nearly 60%!
 
This pisses me off bros. I've been like this for 9 months now, why the hell haven't they prescribed me arimidex? In fact, i've heard no mention of clomid, arimidex or any anti-estrogens. I've been told only the body can raise natural t-levels, nothing else, no drugs..nothing...bastards! This is my life they are pricking about with. If I can get hold of arimidex in the next few days I will try it with clomid. I need test soon. If not I may break!

Yozz
 
Low test

I'm 51 and my test is 360. I'm seeing a Urologist June 21st. I'm going to tell him how tred I am, and especially in the afternoon. I don't have a lot od energy. Then I am going to tell him I don't get anywere wilting weights ether. But I am really going to stress on him how tired I am. The doc won't give you the patch just for bodybuilding. Tell hm you are tired all the time and you want to TRY the patch.
Jazzy1170
 
I had the same problem after my last cycle. Test levels dropped down to 110 ng/l. My doc put me on Androgel immediately. Waited three months and then started another cycle. I am willing to accept the fact that as long as I do cycles my test levels may be suppressed. I am surprised he did not recommend anything after you told him about your sex drive.
 
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