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trying to date a woman from work,

MaGilicuti

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so i've been trying to date this woman at work. i first spoke to her about a year ago and never really had a convo with her since then. recently i got a chance to talk to her so i just decided to ask her out to lunch. we ended up going to lunch two times and things were so so.

i regretably asked her to hang out last weekend right after we went to lunch. the weather was suppose to be poor so she replied maybe next weekend would be better? i took that as a valid reply or a way to say she already was doing something.

now i haven't spoken to her since thursday. i kinda feel she should at least approach me. this weekend is suppose to be shitty weather again (its april.) my question is should i go visit her and confirm or wait for her to contact me?
 
so i've been trying to date this woman at work. i first spoke to her about a year ago and never really had a convo with her since then. recently i got a chance to talk to her so i just decided to ask her out to lunch. we ended up going to lunch two times and things were so so.

i regretably asked her to hang out last weekend right after we went to lunch. the weather was suppose to be poor so she replied maybe next weekend would be better? i took that as a valid reply or a way to say she already was doing something.

now i haven't spoken to her since thursday. i kinda feel she should at least approach me. this weekend is suppose to be shitty weather again (its april.) my question is should i go visit her and confirm or wait for her to contact me?
Visit her, but let her bring it up.
 
I think you missed your window of opportunity. I'd let her pursue hanging out again
 
I think you missed your window of opportunity. I'd let her pursue hanging out again

yea, i think i shoulda acted a lot more aggressively at the 2nd lunch. i could let her contact me but she may feel like she shouldn't have to do that. after all she is a pretty attractive woman. maybe me being laid back could come off to her as being not interested myself especially after not being aggressive so far.
 
evaluations of the situation is useless without the ages of each of you kiddos.
 
evaluations of the situation is useless without the ages of each of you kiddos.


29 & 27

u are in the friend zone..

yea, i'm scared of this. going out with me and her on a weekend would show what's up. this could easily go to the friend zone unless i make the correct move.

i was thinking of just asking her to my office since i have a more private setting. there i could talk to her body language. i mean if i'm asking you to hang out on the weekend one on one u should be aware of my attentions.
 
that friend zone thing scares me. from talking to her i gather she's not a very social person and may be a bit of a home body.
 
U will not get any assistance until I get pics.
I'm seeing Isabella in San Jose Next Weekend.
I shall post pics, regardless is she tosses my shit.
Doubt It.

Mag... I have so eloquently framed a valid argument for pics.
However, I'm kinda kidding.
What does your instincts tell you.
Also, how much are you deluding yourself?
Last thing... attraction is like a song, it can change... however a certain momentum drives it.
It 'sounds' like to me that you if you got thick skin, I don't, maybe you do. Then pursue.
However, if she really wants to meet you, the 'weather' ain't shit.
Finally, on a metaphorical level... the 'weather' does not appear sunny.
My friend I'd like to hear more before I declare something solid, but from you have stated... Pass.
 
yea, i didn't take the weather comment too seriously. she coulda been doing something and just offered an alternative. it wasn't a flat out no the weather is bad, maybe next time sort of thing.

i'm just not sure if i can see her saying hey, what's up with this weekend?
 
yea, i didn't take the weather comment too seriously. she coulda been doing something and just offered an alternative. it wasn't a flat out no the weather is bad, maybe next time sort of thing.

i'm just not sure if i can see her saying hey, what's up with this weekend?[/QUOTE


Your intuition is stronger than u think...
Do you really like her, or are u just bored,
or is life kinda got that stale feelin, this i know well, we all do, and if u don't u are a liar. if u dig on her and feel a spark, then take your time....

Does not sound like a ton of chem though...

If you are just bored, then take the risk..

How much do you like her based on past relationsihps?

What kind of persona does she have?
 
i was really into her at first but yea she kinda fell off in my eyes. i can't even say what it is but she just did. she's very attractive, smart and all that but perhaps i just had her so high in my eyes that she just fell short. i wouldn't mind hanging out with her a bit more just to see what's up.

i think waiting for her to say hi could come off as disrespectful. just not sure how to play my cards at this point.
 
dont so shit for a month, because nether one of you guys are going anywehere since you work together. you got nothing but time bro.
 
i appreciate the advice but why wait for a month? how does that get me in her pants.

if you pull back and act like she is no big deal (because she really isnt) then she will wonder why you havent done anything for a while, in which case you will then make a move and things will get going again. you have to think on different timelines since you work together, it isnt like shes some random c hick at a bar you met and got her number and now you are on a time crucnh to make things happen or else.
 
fair enough superdave. that makes sense.

so you think me not inquiring about hanging out after we kinda said we would isn't disrespectful?
 
SD, has no job, but he's got game.
Mag, I'm leaving the airport, just dropped the mom off, but when I get to the car...
lemme hit ya up with a lil knowledge, based off of me getting shot down... alot.
 
fair enough superdave. that makes sense.

so you think me not inquiring about hanging out after we kinda said we would isn't disrespectful?

no, you are both still in your 20's, and he who holds the restraint and the "i dont give a fuck attitude" wins.
trust me, my personal policy has been to never dip my wick in the company ink, and it has served me well. you have to change your ttimeline expectations since you work together. there is no sense of urgency taht randon dingbats at bars have. she works with you and isnt going anywahere so dont sweat it bor. bleed it out
 
You have to demonstrate value. I don't know if you've done that.

Once you do hang out - put a time constraint on it. like "I only have 2 hours, then I gotta do ____" That'll heighten the tension.

Give lots of backhanded compliments and neg's, like "do you always get that chimpmunk look when you laugh?"

Humor her, if you get her to laugh in her subconscious you are adding value by achieving making her laugh.
 
See, superdave is right on the money. Thing is I don't like Evolutionary Psychology, however there are some partial truths to it. For example, women have a subconcious mechanism when it comes to flirtation... it's an evaluation technique, that is why they give you the mixed signal routine. You move a little forward, then a little back, a little forward... now if you can hold the course, and move in the a harmonious 'in step' rhythm... You are solid.

Too metaphysical SuperDave? LOL nice Karmic Message Bastage..

Okay, I'll get more specific. Here is the thing. If you are overeager, the thing is this says that you are a sensation bound, fickle mother fucker. -Not really, I'm exaggerating- What it tips the girl off, is that you do not understand the step by step process that success in life requires. It signals that you are not a winner. All is process, nothing, nobody is above the process of building. The magic is understanding this and abiding by it.

So here is what you do, become a daily part of her life. However, do not smother her. You have to see her a couple of minutes daily, The intervals I"m not sure, I dunno 10 minutes to 15 tops. Make her Laugh... I know easier said than done, but bear with me, it''s the principle that's important. So, you build this idea and habit that you are a part of her daily life, for 2 weeks. I would not try and sneak a coffee or lunch again for another week... Anyway after 2 weeks, make the move.

Again, I'm not C-Dub-, Lartinos, or PDaddy, Golden Delicious, but I've done allright.
It sounds like you genuinely like her, so if you wanna have a shot at life or anything for that matter, don't skip steps, get in the habit of following and abiding by process.

There is your Tony Robbins get in her pants advice.

Now Pics?
 
I say see her every other day for a couple weeks TOPS, for a couple minutes each time, TOPS. Once again you work with her, so nither one of you are going anywhere soon. Trust me, Ive worked at the same company for 8 years and i had nothing but time, like a prison sentence, to slowly work the game on whatever dingbats were working there at the time. BLEED IT OUT.
 
Yeah, U could be right SD.
I just don't think Mag's got in him.
It smells like he's gonna jump the gun.
It takes restraint to pull what either of us is advising.
Just don't see it happening.
Restraint... takes patience... patience takes discipline... discipline takes WILL...
You got the Will Mag?
 
See, superdave is right on the money. Thing is I don't like Evolutionary Psychology, however there are some partial truths to it. For example, women have a subconcious mechanism when it comes to flirtation... it's an evaluation technique, that is why they give you the mixed signal routine. You move a little forward, then a little back, a little forward... now if you can hold the course, and move in the a harmonious 'in step' rhythm... You are solid.

Too metaphysical SuperDave? LOL nice Karmic Message Bastage..

Okay, I'll get more specific. Here is the thing. If you are overeager, the thing is this says that you are a sensation bound, fickle mother fucker. -Not really, I'm exaggerating- What it tips the girl off, is that you do not understand the step by step process that success in life requires. It signals that you are not a winner. All is process, nothing, nobody is above the process of building. The magic is understanding this and abiding by it.

So here is what you do, become a daily part of her life. However, do not smother her. You have to see her a couple of minutes daily, The intervals I"m not sure, I dunno 10 minutes to 15 tops. Make her Laugh... I know easier said than done, but bear with me, it''s the principle that's important. So, you build this idea and habit that you are a part of her daily life, for 2 weeks. I would not try and sneak a coffee or lunch again for another week... Anyway after 2 weeks, make the move.

Again, I'm not C-Dub-, Lartinos, or PDaddy, Golden Delicious, but I've done allright.
It sounds like you genuinely like her, so if you wanna have a shot at life or anything for that matter, don't skip steps, get in the habit of following and abiding by process.

There is your Tony Robbins get in her pants advice.

Now Pics?

Personally, I consider psychology pseudoscience...they have no real measurable standards unlike physics, chemistry or biology and their founders have been proven wrong....Jung and Freud are prominent examples.
 
Yeah, U could be right SD.
I just don't think Mag's got in him.
It smells like he's gonna jump the gun.
It takes restraint to pull what either of us is advising.
Just don't see it happening.
Restraint... takes patience... patience takes discipline... discipline takes WILL...
You got the Will Mag?

then again he is still a padowan in his 20's so it may be all a moot point
lolololollo
 
See, superdave is right on the money. Thing is I don't like Evolutionary Psychology, however there are some partial truths to it. For example, women have a subconcious mechanism when it comes to flirtation... it's an evaluation technique, that is why they give you the mixed signal routine. You move a little forward, then a little back, a little forward... now if you can hold the course, and move in the a harmonious 'in step' rhythm... You are solid.

Too metaphysical SuperDave? LOL nice Karmic Message Bastage..

Okay, I'll get more specific. Here is the thing. If you are overeager, the thing is this says that you are a sensation bound, fickle mother fucker. -Not really, I'm exaggerating- What it tips the girl off, is that you do not understand the step by step process that success in life requires. It signals that you are not a winner. All is process, nothing, nobody is above the process of building. The magic is understanding this and abiding by it.

So here is what you do, become a daily part of her life. However, do not smother her. You have to see her a couple of minutes daily, The intervals I"m not sure, I dunno 10 minutes to 15 tops. Make her Laugh... I know easier said than done, but bear with me, it''s the principle that's important. So, you build this idea and habit that you are a part of her daily life, for 2 weeks. I would not try and sneak a coffee or lunch again for another week... Anyway after 2 weeks, make the move.

Again, I'm not C-Dub-, Lartinos, or PDaddy, Golden Delicious, but I've done allright.
It sounds like you genuinely like her, so if you wanna have a shot at life or anything for that matter, don't skip steps, get in the habit of following and abiding by process.

There is your Tony Robbins get in her pants advice.

Now Pics?
You should take that on the road.
 
Personally, I consider psychology pseudoscience...they have no real measurable standards unlike physics, chemistry or biology and their founders have been proven wrong....Jung and Freud are prominent examples.

Depends on what you consider truth...
Seems like to me you consider the labels objective and subjective to be real and not labels..
Seems like to me you consider truth to be an idea that is based on fundamental agreement.
However what is true for you may not be true for say... a Frog, a Cat or a Deer, each which have their Sense configuration different than a human being.
You are basing truth on observation limited to 5 senses.
What is true then for you appears to be based on AGREEMENT...
No...
This IS NOT TRUTH... this is AGREEMENT.
Truth is not based on the IS and IS NOT... that leads to Contradiction.

Truth is about the correct ration between qualities, the correct intervals between qualities...
This is why music represents one of the finest examples of Truth.
Truth is eternal Truth is life...
To say the Jung and Freud were wrong, in what sense?
Using what Quantum Physics, Molecular Biology...
That's like Using a Hammer to Eat Soup.
Funny.
 
Depends on what you consider truth...
Seems like to me you consider the labels objective and subjective to be real and not labels..
Seems like to me you consider truth to be an idea that is based on fundamental agreement.
However what is true for you may not be true for say... a Frog, a Cat or a Deer, each which have their Sense configuration different than a human being.
You are basing truth on observation limited to 5 senses.
What is true then for you appears to be based on AGREEMENT...
No...
This IS NOT TRUTH... this is AGREEMENT.
Truth is not based on the IS and IS NOT... that leads to Contradiction.

Truth is about the correct ration between qualities, the correct intervals between qualities...

This is why music represents one of the finest examples of Truth.
Truth is eternal Truth is life...
To say the Jung and Freud were wrong, in what sense?
Using what Quantum Physics, Molecular Biology...
That's like Using a Hammer to Eat Soup.
Funny.

Stop the subjective argumentation. I know 2+2=4 because it's true and provable. I lament deconstructionism being applied to all academic pursuits.
Not all beliefs are equal and survive critical scrutiny.
 
Depends on what you consider truth...
Seems like to me you consider the labels objective and subjective to be real and not labels..
Seems like to me you consider truth to be an idea that is based on fundamental agreement.
However what is true for you may not be true for say... a Frog, a Cat or a Deer, each which have their Sense configuration different than a human being.
You are basing truth on observation limited to 5 senses.
What is true then for you appears to be based on AGREEMENT...
No...
This IS NOT TRUTH... this is AGREEMENT.
Truth is not based on the IS and IS NOT... that leads to Contradiction.

Truth is about the correct ration between qualities, the correct intervals between qualities...
This is why music represents one of the finest examples of Truth.
Truth is eternal Truth is life...
To say the Jung and Freud were wrong, in what sense?
Using what Quantum Physics, Molecular Biology...
That's like Using a Hammer to Eat Soup.
Funny.

jesus christ bor, we are talking about two people in their 20s who work toegether
no need for cosminc exexiticntialism
im drunk and giving advice on thid threaed
that is all that is needed
but you are still my gamma ray nig
 
Stop the subjective argumentation. I know 2+2=4 because it's true and provable. I lament deconstructionism being applied to all academic pursuits.


Again how is that subjective?

I'm not arguing mathematics that is a viewpoint. If you wanna go back that far Pythagorean form... Hell, my whole argument Pythagoras would back.
Mathematics is based on the principle of ratio correct?

How is my argument emotion based? Attention creates worlds.. What i'm saying is the if you are using one viewpoint's standards, like the symbolic form of classification based on mathematical principles of causation to evaluate the 'truth' of another viewpoint?
How will the viewpoint of physical observation evaluate that which it cannot encompass?
Physical science can tell me how the texture of a tree, how many leaves it has, what a tree looks like in infrared...
However it cannot tell me why certain people like trees or why some people only see trees as fire wood?
Again to say that truth is some static object in not the most encompassing definition. What was true yesterday, may not be true tomorrow.
Was the internet true 20 years ago?
My point is truth is more about ratio, balance and harmony.
This is not subjective... this is objective, this is basic arithematic.
 
Again how is that subjective?

I'm not arguing mathematics that is a viewpoint. If you wanna go back that far Pythagorean form... Hell, my whole argument Pythagoras would back.
Mathematics is based on the principle of ratio correct?

How is my argument emotion based? Attention creates worlds.. What i'm saying is the if you are using one viewpoint's standards, like the symbolic form of classification based on mathematical principles of causation to evaluate the 'truth' of another viewpoint?
How will the viewpoint of physical observation evaluate that which it cannot encompass?
Physical science can tell me how the texture of a tree, how many leaves it has, what a tree looks like in infrared...
However it cannot tell me why certain people like trees or why some people only see trees as fire wood?
Again to say that truth is some static object in not the most encompassing definition. What was true yesterday, may not be true tomorrow.
Was the internet true 20 years ago?
My point is truth is more about ratio, balance and harmony.
This is not subjective... this is objective, this is basic arithematic.


fui k what are tou talking about bor
 
Bro, I like you but I'm a systems guy that values logic, reason and evidence....you are less like me...

That's why I thought you were a chick alter when you started posting...I don't give a shit about philosophical abstracts...it's an opinion. Show me a logical proof because that was the philosophy course I pwned...:)

PS No matter how much we disagree I'm a logical person that doesn't hold grudges. :) I think a spirited debate is the best thing for the progress of humanity...that means I still like you. :)
 
Bro, I like you but I'm a systems guy that values logic, reason and evidence....you are less like me...

That's why I thought you were a chick alter when you started posting...I don't give a shit about philosophical abstracts...it's an opinion. Show me a logical proof because that was the philosophy course I pwned...:)

PS No matter how much we disagree I'm a logical person that doesn't hold grudges. :) I think a spirited debate is the best thing for the progress of humanity...that means I still like you. :)

Read my second post. A mechanical engineer wrote it.
 
Bro, I like you but I'm a systems guy that values logic, reason and evidence....you are less like me...

That's why I thought you were a chick alter when you started posting...I don't give a shit about philosophical abstracts...it's an opinion. Show me a logical proof because that was the philosophy course I pwned...:)

PS No matter how much we disagree I'm a logical person that doesn't hold grudges. :) I think a spirited debate is the best thing for the progress of humanity...that means I still like you. :)
+8
I know Java, without your prods...
It would kinda suck.
Thanx Brah.
 
Again how is that subjective?

I'm not arguing mathematics that is a viewpoint. If you wanna go back that far Pythagorean form... Hell, my whole argument Pythagoras would back.
Mathematics is based on the principle of ratio correct?

How is my argument emotion based? Attention creates worlds.. What i'm saying is the if you are using one viewpoint's standards, like the symbolic form of classification based on mathematical principles of causation to evaluate the 'truth' of another viewpoint?
How will the viewpoint of physical observation evaluate that which it cannot encompass?
Physical science can tell me how the texture of a tree, how many leaves it has, what a tree looks like in infrared...
However it cannot tell me why certain people like trees or why some people only see trees as fire wood?
Again to say that truth is some static object in not the most encompassing definition. What was true yesterday, may not be true tomorrow.
Was the internet true 20 years ago?
My point is truth is more about ratio, balance and harmony.
This is not subjective... this is objective, this is basic arithematic.

I cannot even pronounce the words you all are using .. wtf are you two talking about..lololololl:biggrin:
 
Read my second post. A mechanical engineer wrote it.

I'm astounded that men in America feel compelled to impress a wiminz. I've been guilty of it, I was raised to be a good boyfriend that put the wiminz on a pedestal and by default a good man...

The women I dated didn't reciprocate...IMO, men need to have more self respect.
 
I'm astounded that men in America feel compelled to impress a wiminz. I've been guilty of it, I was raised to be a good boyfriend that put the wiminz on a pedestal and by default a good man...

The women I dated didn't reciprocate...IMO, men need to have more self respect.

There is alot of truth in your statement..
 
I'm astounded that men in America feel compelled to impress a wiminz. I've been guilty of it, I was raised to be a good boyfriend that put the wiminz on a pedestal and by default a good man...

The women I dated didn't reciprocate...IMO, men need to have more self respect.

He actually has a valid argument here.

Oh I forgot to add Java to my list of guys I'm not
As in Pdaddy, Java, Golden, C-dub- and Lart.
Java tested out at 9.4, while I'm a 9.1 according to Hawt or Nawt.


I cried that night he posted his score....
j/k.
 
magilicutti is just another rob trying to get laid.
this shit isnt rockdet science or a study of nitchske
any bor with at least 10 years of getting laid experience can help out
 
He actually has a valid argument here.

Oh I forgot to add Java to my list of guys I'm not
As in Pdaddy, Java, Golden, C-dub- and Lart.
Java tested out at 9.4, while I'm a 9.1 according to Hawt or Nawt.


I cried that night he posted his score....
j/k.

I respect our e-relationship. I hold very different views with many of my friends. I have a saber wit and I don't suffer people I consider wrong headed in their beliefs. I might disagree with you but I support your right to disagree with me....as a matter of fact I would probably risk my eternal death to save your life. :)
 
magilicutti is just another rob trying to get laid.
this shit isnt rockdet science or a study of nitchske
any bor with at least 10 years of getting laid experience can help out

Yeah I agree...
However Knowlege is Power.
And in the Spirit of Good Will
We should get pics.

LOL
I''m a bastard.
Camera Phone Mag?
I'm just kidding.
Pleez do not take pics until you get her as your girlfriend.
I don't want Shrimp Pics either.
I'm just fucking with ya.
 
Yeah I agree...
However Knowlege is Power.
And in the Spirit of Good Will
We should get pics.

LOL
I''m a bastard.
Camera Phone Mag?
I'm just kidding.
Pleez do not take pics until you get her as your girlfriend.
I don't want Shrimp Pics either.
I'm just fucking with ya.


pics will make all the differenc ein the world i agree.
cuz if shde is a dog this thread is a waste of time
 
Yeah I agree...
However Knowlege is Power.
And in the Spirit of Good Will
We should get pics.

LOL
I''m a bastard.
Camera Phone Mag?
I'm just kidding.
Pleez do not take pics until you get her as your girlfriend.
I don't want Shrimp Pics either.
I'm just fucking with ya.

I think you read too much Freud into my relationship with my father. The man made tremendous achievements. He did more with less and I was the favorite child...my self imposed expectations were worse than any pressure he put on me.It's the expectation I disliked....not the man....he was my role model.
 
Flip the switch like the others are saying. Personally I would ignore her completely for about a week or two (she's not going anywhere like others have said). If she's actually interested then you will notice HER starting to occasionally drift around and try to spark conversation. If she doesn't, then she was never interested in the first place and you can move on.

Then if she does start showing signs of interest (occasional contact, joking, showing up when you're getting coffee/food, etc.) you can start with a different strategy than got you shot down in the first place.

Google "ladder theory" - it's a good read.
 
i work on a huge campus so i don't see her everyday. plus she sits in a very quiet section. if i were to see her frequently that might be frowned upon.
 
I think you read too much Freud into my relationship with my father. The man made tremendous achievements. He did more with less and I was the favorite child...my self imposed expectations were worse than any pressure he put on me.It's the expectation I disliked....not the man....he was my role model.


No I felt that you had no disdain for the man himself and have affection...
However, there probably was a going back and forth on the Man himself on and accepting the position he took in life.

I dunno, I could be way off..
U gotta a valid point though, alot of what I feel and percieve is not so much based on Freud, but has a ton of Jung.
 
this thread is too smart for me.

if i went into her life on a daily basis like you guys are saying that could build up a friendship. that might not be a good look for me.
 
this bitch won't even so much as smile at you until you post some pics for ariel


LOL
I know I just talked MuscleMom.....

I couldn't convince her to put an ignore spell on Maglicutti's girl.

Plus we need a photograph for that to work.

BTW, I"m just kidding Mags...
First MuscleMom would never do such a thing...
and such a thing does not exist.
Seriously MM and I would never waste our time with such
idiosyncracy. :artist:
 
Don't be a one-timer.

If you're on a university there is a ton of chicks, dont get caught up on one. Cast out as many lines as you can.
 
Don't be a one-timer.

If you're on a university there is a ton of chicks, dont get caught up on one. Cast out as many lines as you can.

See that is exactly what I was gonna say.
I mean if he is on campus... then why so much tension on this situation?

I agree.
 
my campus doesn't have much to work with believe me. you'd be surprised at how this huge place has no women. i am attracted to this woman and i think she's a "good" girl. i'd just like to see where it can go but i want to do it right.

the thing is i already asked her to hang out and she wants to go out this weekend. i don't know if i'd be rude not to talk to her or just wait for her to approach me. i can just put my head out there and if she agrees to come out then maybe i'll take it from there?
 
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