This old guys cycle results

[thelion2005]

First ....
Good to see Radar!!

This is a great post. We have a guy doing everything right and not keeping his gains. A good mystery.

I can easily keep 25-35% depending on the stack. I usually pick up a lot of water from dbol and certain nandos and urinate it out when I stop and go back to HRT. I get a lot of joint pain relief during the cycle so I'm OK with that loss. 6 lbs of water in the first 2 weeks is normal.

I will also deliberately drop some pounds during HRT by really cutting back fast/simple carbos. It is fun walking around at 230-235, but it is tiring and I don't fit ... so I go down to 205 for some relief.

Maybe you still need to find that one aas that really clicks with your body. I know I'm still looking. I'm suspecting that mine could be an injected anavar.

Even though you have this problem ... are you having fun during the cycle?

 

[GUARDIAN]

We need Nelson to get in contact with Albert Beckles. He competed into his 60's. He must have the answer

 

[thelion2005]

Had to eliminate the orals! My bp climbed to 180/105. Within 2 days of backing off the orals, I was down to under 120 and under 80.

I felt terrible until the pills were eliminated.

Dropped 8 pounds of water.

Must have hit a bad batch of BD t-bol.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Albert Beckles is a freak. Byt the way, it was Jack LaLAnne's 93rd birthday this week. I interviewed him a few years back. A total wacko, but he knows his shit.

Anyway, at 65, the supression from the cycle was probabaly so severe there's no way to maintain extra muscle. Advice -- HRT, 100 mgs a week to start, regular use of UNLEASHED, Derma and MyogenX. Twice a week 1/4 tab of dexx.

 

[cboogsrun]

i'm guessing here, but I would think you might need to look into a little hgh to keep your gains. Diet might also be another issue. You need to consume a certain amount of calories to maintain body weight.

Stats: 65 years old. 6' tall. 185lbs.Bodyfat % unknown(34"waist). Ectomorph bodytype.
History: Lifting for 41 years(religously). Three previous cycles over last 10-15 years. Four working sets per bodypart,twice a week, 60 seconds rest.(not overtraining IMO).
Cycle: Day 1-4 30mg d-bl.
Week 1-6 Stallion Labs test testosterone cypionate. 250mg twice a week.
End of first week 4lb.gain. End of second week. another 5lb gain. (I can't see a 9lb water gain from only 4 days Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ). No gain weeks 3,4,5,6.Did gain 1" on waist from increased calories(clean). So, what's with no gain after 2nd. week?
PCT - post cycle therapy - : HRT (70mg/week patches).
5 squirts Derma. 8 weeks
Unleashed
Myogenx
Lost everything by 8 weeks. Like I said, I'm 65 but that doesn't mean shit to me. Needto says nobody my age is going to keep any gains no matter what their PCT is. I know The Lion does. He keeps about a third. Am I all fucked up here or can anybody help?

 

[solidspine]

Nice cycle test and d-bol,

A little short, right after the Test C kicked in you started pct,


I think you could do 400mg Test C a week for HRT


If you are still cycling, next time


Try

Weeks 1-12 Test C or E 750mg
Weeks 1-12 Deca 750mg
Weeks 1-6 D-bol 50mg ED
Weeks 1-6 Tren Ace 50mg ED

Anti-E

PCT


The most noticeable problem I see for older lifters is injury, maybe that is why you abbreviated your cycle.

This certainly seems to be my case, and I am right behind you at age 57

 

[thelion2005]

I'm just going to coast out. BP is down and I've leveled out at 212 at 6 ft.
100 npp and 200 test c twice a week for 3 more weeks. Then good old HRT.
And HGH is in the mix.

If you saw my thread on the new daughter, you'll see that has taken over my brain. I am so fing happy. She loves me like this. LOL

 

[nzrodney]

How many calories where you consuming daily during your cycle? Carbs are just or more important than protein for energy & growth. Gear is only part of the equation dose not matter what age. You may wish to consider TRT - Test E 250mg PW. Forget the orals & be very careful using Tren as it can cause increased prostate cellular activity in the older male. PS: Age is only a number.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nice cycle test and Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ,

A little short, right after the testosterone cypionate kicked in you started PCT - post cycle therapy - ,


I think you could do 400mg Test C a week for HRT


If you are still cycling, next time


Try

Weeks 1-12 Test C or E 750mg
Weeks 1-12 Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - 750mg
Weeks 1-6 D-bol 50mg ED
Weeks 1-6 trenbolone Ace 50mg ED

Anti-E

PCT

QUOTE]

Where do you get this stuff from? It seems like you just mix and match lots of compounds and high dosages and whatever pops into your head and recommened it.

 

[perryscoon]

Stats: 65 years old. 6' tall. 185lbs.Bodyfat % unknown(34"waist). Ectomorph bodytype.
History: Lifting for 41 years(religously). Three previous cycles over last 10-15 years. Four working sets per bodypart,twice a week, 60 seconds rest.(not overtraining IMO).
Cycle: Day 1-4 30mg d-bl.
Week 1-6 Stallion Labs test testosterone cypionate. 250mg twice a week.
End of first week 4lb.gain. End of second week. another 5lb gain. (I can't see a 9lb water gain from only 4 days Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ). No gain weeks 3,4,5,6.Did gain 1" on waist from increased calories(clean). So, what's with no gain after 2nd. week?
PCT - post cycle therapy - : HRT (70mg/week patches).
5 squirts Derma. 8 weeks
Unleashed
Myogenx
Lost everything by 8 weeks. Like I said, I'm 65 but that doesn't mean shit to me. Needto says nobody my age is going to keep any gains no matter what their PCT is. I know The Lion does. He keeps about a third. Am I all fucked up here or can anybody help?

I don't think your age has anything to do with this. Something else is wrong here. I think that the gear you used in week 3 onward were bad/fake. Even with poor diet and training you would see SOME changes on 500mg test/EW. You could inject test into a bed ridden vegetable and they would make gains so I think ur gear was bad.

The only gear I've ever taken that did absolutely nothing was equipoise.