things that should be taken on cycle yet are always unspoken....

[Ianhockey91]

lmao first post on ef is a aid...bro get a following and some post before you try a
aid campaign.

Add or not that product is the shit. At least he didnt post a link, but take a look at it and read the ingredients.

 

[instant.muscle]

lots of peanut butter

 

[jijipuku]

True with the high/ clean calories. But gotta respectively disagree with the cardio. I think it can be counterproductive when trying to gain.

Even 1-2 times/week cardio is counterproductive(in a gain phase)?

IMO, 1-2 times cardio/week are good in a mass phase(staying cardiovascular fit which has many benefits).

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson, whats the difference between Unleashed and Post Cycle?

UNLEASHED lowers S H B G which in turn raises FREE testosterone. The beauty of that is, you increase natural USEABLE T without suppression. That can be an advantage as a mild "natty T boost" or to soup up a cycle. It's also not a bad idea to get T higher after a cycle. It provides a boost in libido as well. (Not surprisingly. Ever use Proviron? )

"POST-CYCLE" is a combo of liver detoxifiers, 3 mild anti e's, plus it has an anti ED effect. A double dose works like 50 mgs of Viagra for A LOT LESS MONEY. It's all the stuff that is traditionally taken PC but as needto says,as is the case with certain recovery drugs it makes sense to use DURING a cycle.

 

[st8grad]

lots of peanut butter

+1. Even reg peanut butter is fine as long as you are keeping most sugar and crappy carbs outta your diet.

 

[st8grad]

Even 1-2 times/week cardio is counterproductive(in a gain phase)?

IMO, 1-2 times cardio/week are good in a mass phase(staying cardiovascular fit which has many benefits).

I run 20 miles per week, down from 30 (actually down from 40 but I digress) so I am going to sound like a hypocrite.

But it has been said (I think there are studies) that cardio actually doesn't have as many benefits as it is reputed to have. Staying active by lifting and doing cardio is better than not, but it is up to a certain point that it is beneficial. You need to stay active....like the use or lose it cliche. But when it comes to cardiovascular health, well all health really, it comes down to 90% diet.

If you are in a mass phase, lifting is just as good as cardio. I don't think however that lifting 3-4x per week for 45 minutes each is really considered being all that active if you climb behind a keyboard for 8 hours the rest of the day and spend 4 hours watching tv and then hit the bed.

So when it comes down to it, I really don't know shit, but I am pretty sure I read a study on cardio. Maybe I'll look for it. With that being said though, I run for the felling it gives me and the fact that I just don't think our bodies were meant to be as inactive as we are in modern society. It gives me 8-10 hours of intense activity per week. I'll trade some of the mass gains for that.

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

Drink a shake at night before bed.
Though its not something you take I always use a sweat belt and Sweet Sweat on the belt while on esp bulking. Helps to get rid of extra water when bulking and if your cutting..well shit you get more ripped

 

[boston789]

UNLEASHED lowers S H B G which in turn raises FREE testosterone. The beauty of that is, you increase natural USEABLE T without suppression. That can be an advantage as a mild "natty T boost" or to soup up a cycle. It's also not a bad idea to get T higher after a cycle. It provides a boost in libido as well. (Not surprisingly. Ever use Proviron? )

"POST-CYCLE" is a combo of liver detoxifiers, 3 mild anti e's, plus it has an anti ED effect. A double dose works like 50 mgs of Viagra for A LOT LESS MONEY. It's all the stuff that is traditionally taken PC but as needto says,as is the case with certain recovery drugs it makes sense to use DURING a cycle.

Thanks. Much appreciated.

Im assuming you could use both simultaneously during P C T...would it be used at the same time as clomid? Or after in your opinion?

K to you.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Thanks. Much appreciated.

Im assuming you could use both simultaneously during P C T...would it be used at the same time as clomid? Or after in your opinion?

K to you.

They can be used like Clomid. I've often wondered why people didn't use any PC Treatment sooner. If it works, what's wrong with having natural T a little higher? Why must you wait until it's in the basement?

 

[Mac173]

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