the greatest armies in the world

[heatherrae]

mein kampf has been "out there" since 1925 so your comments about it be newly discovered is flat out wrong
anyhow mein kampf was largely ramblings etc. and much like sports talk it contained a lot of "bullshitting"

in actaulity Hitler was not bent on world domination,just a uniting of germanic peoples into one tough ass country;


"Hitler makes arguments toward the old German nationalist ideas of "Drang nach Osten" and the necessity to gain Lebensraum ("living space") eastwards (especially in Russia).

In Mein Kampf, Hitler uses the main thesis of "The Jewish peril", which speaks of an alleged Jewish conspiracy to gain world leadership and also warns against the French. Overall, however, it does explain many details of Hitler's childhood and the process by which he became increasingly anti-Semitic and militaristic, especially during his years in Vienna, Austria. In one early chapter, he wrote about how for the first time in the city streets he noticed distinctively dressed Jews unlike those he already knew and then asked himself "Was that a German?" rather than "Was that a Jew?"

Mein Kampf has also been studied as a work on political theory. For example, Hitler announces his hatred in Mein Kampf toward what he believed to be the twin evils of the world: Communism and Judaism. The new territory that Germany needed to obtain would properly nurture the "historic destiny" of the German people; this goal explains why Hitler invaded Europe, both East and West, before he launched his attack against Russia. Laying Germany's chief ills on the parliamentary government, he announces that he wants to completely destroy that type of government.

Mein Kampf has been examined as a book on foreign policy. For example, Hitler predicts the stages of Germany's political reality on the world stage: in the first stage, Germany would, through a massive program of re-armament, overthrow the shackles of the Treaty of Versailles and form alliances with the British Empire and Fascist Italy. The second stage would feature wars against France and her allies in Eastern Europe by the combined forces of Germany, Britain and Italy. The third and final stage would be a war to destroy what Hitler saw as the "Judeo-Bolshevik" regime in the Soviet Union that would give Germany the necessary Lebensraum. The German historian, Andreas Hillgruber, labelled the plans contained in Mein Kampf as Hitler's "Stufenplan" (Stage-by-stage plan)."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Kampf

You must have misread what I typed. I was talking about an unpublished work that was written by Hitler after mein kampf. Go back and reread what I wrote.

 

[heatherrae]

What do you know about baby barbeque?

Baby monkey bbq only.

 

[heatherrae]

Wow. Do you have any idea what Germany was like before he came into the picture? I suppose not; they never taught that part in junior high. Catch em while they're young, for sure.

Well, thank you for the insults. Who knew that Hitler would incite such rousing ferver in your little heart...lol. Yes, I'm an educated adult who is aware that he built nice roads and was an architecture nut. In the end, however, he destroyed the country and Germans to this day are ashamed of his reign of terror. Giving him any credit as a great leader is ridiculous. He was a butcher and a monster.

 

[javaguru]

Baby monkey bbq only.

OMFGBABYBBQ?

 

[Gambino]

Well, thank you for the insults. Who knew that Hitler would incite such rousing ferver in your little heart...lol. Yes, I'm an educated adult who is aware that he built nice roads and was an architecture nut. In the end, however, he destroyed the country and Germans to this day are ashamed of his reign of terror. Giving him any credit as a great leader is ridiculous. He was a butcher and a monster.

butcher's and monsters still have their positive impact
alexander, for instance, wasn't always nice about how he did things
neither was mohammed or stalin or mao
but to dissmiss their reigns entirely is emotion driven and not logical IMO

 

[Spartacus]

Well, really my original point is that a leader bent on world domination is a leader that is leading his country into ruin. There really are no positive things to say about what he did for Germany.

the autobahn and the "people's car" VW to start

 

[heatherrae]

butcher's and monsters still have their positive impact
alexander, for instance, wasn't always nice about how he did things
neither was mohammed or stalin or mao
but to dissmiss their reigns entirely is emotion driven and not logical IMO

No, it isn't an emotional decision. It is looking at the end result of his reign. The country was in ruins, and is still embarassed by him. I feel the end result cannot be compared to Alexander. Alexander was far more effective a leader, even if he was completely egocentric, sexually ambivalent and delusional...lol.

 

[Spartacus]

You must have misread what I typed. I was talking about an unpublished work that was written by Hitler after mein kampf. Go back and reread what I wrote.

Hitler didn't write any memoirs(he was sort of dead)
I beleive the book your talking about is just another "I was there with Hitler" book that's nothing but an opinion piece
and usually those are the typical "hitler was a bully and evil" tripe

if you really want to understand Hitler via the observations of a man who was there
read Albert Speer's "Inside the Third Reich" or his "Spandau Diaries"
I read them both at age 14-15

Albert Speer was a genious

 

[heatherrae]

Hitler didn't write any memoirs(he was sort of dead)
I beleive the book your talking about is just another "I was there with Hitler" book that's nothing but an opinion piece
and usually those are the typical "hitler was a bully and evil" tripe

if you really want to understand Hitler via the observations of a man who was there
read Albert Speer's "Inside the Third Reich" or his "Spandau Diaries"
I read them both at age 14-15

Albert Speer was a genious

No, this one is by Hitler himself. If you think it is fake, that is one thing. But, purportedly by the historians who were featured on History channel, it exists. I didn't hear the story incorrectly and remember what was said very well. Perhaps google the story from the history channel for more info on what I am talking about.

I know the History channel is sometimes a piss poor source of info b/c they sensationalize it and dumb everything down, but they most certainly had a show about this unpublished book by Hitler and its contents.

 

[Spartacus]

Well, thank you for the insults. Who knew that Hitler would incite such rousing ferver in your little heart...lol. Yes, I'm an educated adult who is aware that he built nice roads and was an architecture nut. In the end, however, he destroyed the country and Germans to this day are ashamed of his reign of terror. Giving him any credit as a great leader is ridiculous. He was a butcher and a monster.

the country got destroyed because they lost
but germany came damn close to winning
and if they had won germany would be a superpower equal to the US today

and there never would have been a 50 year cold war against the USSR
eastern europe would have prospered instead of being economically stagnated for half a century under the soviets domain

Roosevelt dies and the US govt makes peace with germany as does britian
it's right there in mein kampf how Hitler wanted to ally with the British empire

he hated jews and communists

the jewish people got the short end of the stick
which isn't unusual

personally I'm not anit-semitic
I've studied the 4 arab-Isreali wars starting with the war of independence in 1948
the jews kicked ass and I admire them for their tenacity
and I admire their successful business endeavors

hell my high school was 20-25% Jewish