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as I read that and was trying to be objective
I came away with the idea that hitler was concerned about an ultimate confrontation between greater germany and her allies and the USA

not unreasonable

A Jewish "scholar" would find a lot of material in it to be able to
"ha! Hitler wanted to invade the USA"
tkae over the world etc, evil, etc

I'll comment later on some of hitler's observations and how they "pan out" today
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heatherrae said:
yes, and he said that we were only growing stronger and stronger by the day and that he would have to invade as soon as possible or it would be impossible to defeat us.


Also, I am LOL'ing that you would lament my referring to a book I heard about on the history channel as not being bibliography worthy material, and you liberally use wikipedia.
wikopedia is good as the narratives are more "reader friendly" and thus work well to cut and paste for the casual discussion board reader
the antention spans here are short and maybe half a dozen will even read that short wiko entry
I'm not a good typist so I can't ramble on myself w/o it being a bitch

but thanks for the mention as I seriously didn't know about the book
and I'm fairly sure javaguru will find it interesting

so far I find Hitler quite prescient in his views
forecasting the big showdown in 1980 for example
about the time when it was seriously possible for a warsaw pact/USSR invasion of western europe
 
Spartacus said:
wikopedia is good as the narratives are more "reader friendly" and thus work well to cut and paste for the casual discussion board reader
the antention spans here are short and maybe half a dozen will even read that short wiko entry
I'm not a good typist so I can't ramble on myself w/o it being a bitch

but thanks for the mention as I seriously didn't know about the book
and I'm fairly sure javaguru will find it interesting

so far I find Hitler quite prescient in his views
forecasting the big showdown in 1980 for example
about the time when it was seriously possible for a warsaw pact/USSR invasion of western europe
Hitler had a lot of ideas that were so bizarre as to be bordering on delusional. He incorporated lots of mysticism of the time into his thinking. Unfortunately for the jews there was a weird mysticism floating about at the time that he latched onto that was highly anti-semetic. He certainly was not a military strategist that you make him out to be. He lead his country into foreseeable destruction.
 
heatherrae said:
Well, thank you for the insults. Who knew that Hitler would incite such rousing ferver in your little heart...lol. Yes, I'm an educated adult who is aware that he built nice roads and was an architecture nut. In the end, however, he destroyed the country and Germans to this day are ashamed of his reign of terror. Giving him any credit as a great leader is ridiculous. He was a butcher and a monster.


You completely missed my point. My "insults" as you call them are apparently justified, as I sense an impossibility a mental/emotional roadblock in your train of thought towards learning something new.

The winners of war write its history. Very few people give a damn or take a risk in learning the other side of the tale as well.
 
LOL @ France in Hitler’s opinion, was rapidly “Negroizing” itself.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
You completely missed my point. My "insults" as you call them are apparently justified, as I sense an impossibility a mental/emotional roadblock in your train of thought towards learning something new.

The winners of war write its history. Very few people give a damn or take a risk in learning the other side of the tale as well.
While that may be true, I think that it hardly debatable that Germany was far worse off after Hitler than before and that the holocaust did, in fact, occur.

If I were a man making the same arguments would you be so quick to dismiss my opinions on the matter as "emotional." I doubt it.
 
Spartacus said:
Gerhard Weinberg is Jewish
I hardly expect a balanced and non-biased assessment of adolf from a Jew
not gonna happen

there are several well written books on hitler that are quite thick too
some one hour TV segment is not going to give you any decent understanding

would you write a paper and include a TV program in your bibliography?

I'm not glorifying hitler
I'm just trying to understand him from a dispassionate angle
I'm more into the german military
and it's my opinion that if hitler and his henchmen never appeared on the scene

Germany would have re-armed regardless and still have fought a war with the USSR
Stalin's intentions are well documented
he's the one who really could be said to desire world domination


Apparently when asked why he killed 5 million + of his peasants in the east, he was quoted as replying, "...Boys will be boys." I'll have to look into that, but yeah, you don't hear much of his atrocities.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
Apparently when asked why he killed 5 million + of his peasants in the east, he was quoted as replying, "...Boys will be boys." I'll have to look into that, but yeah, you don't hear much of his atrocities.

I heard that quote from Stalin came when FDR or Churchill asked Stalin about the intelligence relating to the Soviet Army raping its way through Eastern Europe and Germany. I'm not sure though....
 
heatherrae said:
Hitler had a lot of ideas that were so bizarre as to be bordering on delusional. He incorporated lots of mysticism of the time into his thinking. Unfortunately for the jews there was a weird mysticism floating about at the time that he latched onto that was highly anti-semetic. He certainly was not a military strategist that you make him out to be. He lead his country into foreseeable destruction.


It was heading there regardless. His anti-semitism was gradually developed through real-world observation and interaction with Jews. Chalking them up to mysticism would be sensational at best. Also, Germany was already economically infested with communism before Hitler took power, so you would've been hard pressed to find a real German at the time who regretted his decision to fight it.
 
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