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javaguru said:
I'm a historian...read historical text in context as opposed to superficially and don't tell me shit unless you're educated.. Just sayin', Armchair retards are a dime a dozen...

You have a BS in history, you have told us at least 20 times.

Your veneer of having some class is thin.
 
Testosterone boy said:
You have a BS in history, you have told us at least 20 times.

Your veneer of having some class is thin.
how do you get a BS in history?
mine is a BA, cause it is an art and not a science
 
Testosterone boy said:
You have a BS in history, you have told us at least 20 times.

Your veneer of having some class is thin.
I never claimed to have class, I prefer to be classless. I have a BA in History.....I'm with Gambino, how do you get a BS in history?
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
That's basically what I mean.




Hitler's minister of propaganda, Joseph Goebels, mentioned the same thing in his diaries, about "ruling the world". Although like Gambino said, physically taking over every developed nation even in that time would be next to impossible. The Germans were ambitious, but not stupid. A more rational explanation would be spreading nationalism, first and foremost in the place of communist controlled states.
A lot of Nazi Germany has been over-villainized. Historians (including some Jewish) have been debunking horror stories more and more as time goes on, concentration camp numbers being downplayed, etc. It was a chaotic time.

Hitler was convinced World War II would not have occurred had it not been for Jewish influence. Hitler regarded Germany's struggle with Great Britain and the United States as a disaster for western civilization and a triumph for Communism. He knew that President Roosevelt had worked with every available means to promote war in Europe prior to the English declaration of war against Germany on September 3, 1939. He did not believe that Chamberlain would have accepted war had it not been for the pressure from President Roosevelt. Further, Hitler did not believe that President Roosevelt would have worked for war had be not been encouraged and supported in his efforts by the powerful American-Jewish community.

Joachin von Ribbentrop, Between London and Moscow, Leoni, 1953, pp. 274ff.)
Well, really my original point is that a leader bent on world domination is a leader that is leading his country into ruin. There really are no positive things to say about what he did for Germany. In the end, his entire plan lead them into great destruction.

Discussing what he achieved for Germany is like saying "Yes, but I kissed the baby before I threw it into the barbeque pit."
 
heatherrae said:
Well, really my original point is that a leader bent on world domination is a leader that is leading his country into ruin. There really are no positive things to say about what he did for Germany. In the end, his entire plan lead them into great destruction.

Discussing what he achieved for Germany is like saying "Yes, but I kissed the baby before I threw it into the barbeque pit."
What do you know about baby barbeque?
 
heatherrae said:
Well, really my original point is that a leader bent on world domination is a leader that is leading his country into ruin. There really are no positive things to say about what he did for Germany. In the end, his entire plan lead them into great destruction.

Discussing what he achieved for Germany is like saying "Yes, but I kissed the baby before I threw it into the barbeque pit."


Wow. Do you have any idea what Germany was like before he came into the picture? I suppose not; they never taught that part in junior high. Catch em while they're young, for sure.
 
heatherrae said:
Well, really my original point is that a leader bent on world domination is a leader that is leading his country into ruin. There really are no positive things to say about what he did for Germany. In the end, his entire plan lead them into great destruction.

Discussing what he achieved for Germany is like saying "Yes, but I kissed the baby before I threw it into the barbeque pit."
mein kampf has been "out there" since 1925 so your comments about it be newly discovered is flat out wrong
anyhow mein kampf was largely ramblings etc. and much like sports talk it contained a lot of "bullshitting"

in actaulity Hitler was not bent on world domination,just a uniting of germanic peoples into one tough ass country;


"Hitler makes arguments toward the old German nationalist ideas of "Drang nach Osten" and the necessity to gain Lebensraum ("living space") eastwards (especially in Russia).

In Mein Kampf, Hitler uses the main thesis of "The Jewish peril", which speaks of an alleged Jewish conspiracy to gain world leadership and also warns against the French. Overall, however, it does explain many details of Hitler's childhood and the process by which he became increasingly anti-Semitic and militaristic, especially during his years in Vienna, Austria. In one early chapter, he wrote about how for the first time in the city streets he noticed distinctively dressed Jews unlike those he already knew and then asked himself "Was that a German?" rather than "Was that a Jew?"

Mein Kampf has also been studied as a work on political theory. For example, Hitler announces his hatred in Mein Kampf toward what he believed to be the twin evils of the world: Communism and Judaism. The new territory that Germany needed to obtain would properly nurture the "historic destiny" of the German people; this goal explains why Hitler invaded Europe, both East and West, before he launched his attack against Russia. Laying Germany's chief ills on the parliamentary government, he announces that he wants to completely destroy that type of government.

Mein Kampf has been examined as a book on foreign policy. For example, Hitler predicts the stages of Germany's political reality on the world stage: in the first stage, Germany would, through a massive program of re-armament, overthrow the shackles of the Treaty of Versailles and form alliances with the British Empire and Fascist Italy. The second stage would feature wars against France and her allies in Eastern Europe by the combined forces of Germany, Britain and Italy. The third and final stage would be a war to destroy what Hitler saw as the "Judeo-Bolshevik" regime in the Soviet Union that would give Germany the necessary Lebensraum. The German historian, Andreas Hillgruber, labelled the plans contained in Mein Kampf as Hitler's "Stufenplan" (Stage-by-stage plan)."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Kampf
 
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