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The fall of America
- Thread starter chesty
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Yes I agree with chesty on this. It has been going down hill for quite awhile.
Kids nowadays don't have a clue as to what may come for them down the road, but I certainly can see the writing on the wall, and that wall is crumbling away.
It is too damn bad that others can't see the reality of our situation.
Kids nowadays don't have a clue as to what may come for them down the road, but I certainly can see the writing on the wall, and that wall is crumbling away.
It is too damn bad that others can't see the reality of our situation.
thebigugly
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When the Hammer does fall, GET THE FUCK OUTTA THE WAY, I"M GOIN IN!!!!
More is going on right now than you will ever know. Are we sitting idle, not taking action? I think not. People are in places and doing things as we speak, and moving as we read. The media and there big fucking mouths need not know everything. We just sent a carrier over without any aircraft on it. HUMMM, I wonder what's on it, use your imagination. Let's see, carrier with full crew and air group, 5500 marines, and sailors. Air group gone, room for A LOT of GEAR and Military types people. We will make the attack on OUR TERMS. Remember the six Ps. proper planning prevents piss poor performance. I'm telling you S.O.G. is ALL OVER THIS. Wait and see......YOU WON"T be disappointed............
More is going on right now than you will ever know. Are we sitting idle, not taking action? I think not. People are in places and doing things as we speak, and moving as we read. The media and there big fucking mouths need not know everything. We just sent a carrier over without any aircraft on it. HUMMM, I wonder what's on it, use your imagination. Let's see, carrier with full crew and air group, 5500 marines, and sailors. Air group gone, room for A LOT of GEAR and Military types people. We will make the attack on OUR TERMS. Remember the six Ps. proper planning prevents piss poor performance. I'm telling you S.O.G. is ALL OVER THIS. Wait and see......YOU WON"T be disappointed............
the kitty hawk (the carrier being sent to the area w/o aircraft) will be used as a floating base for helicopters...decision was made to do this as support from some mid east countries dissolves(Saudi, Uzbeck, and Oman all have said they will not allow US operations to launch attacks against their Arab brothers from their countries)
That is no huge loss. There is no good country to operate the Air Force from. They would have to go over Iranian air space if they launched from Saudi. Or take a very long route. There are several reasons that Afghanistan has been tough for invading forces. This may become a good test for our military.
the nature boy
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RippitUp said:
no shit. pass me the blunt...... puff puff give.
Chesty-
"If we still had balls, we would have acted by now and not given a damn about the rest of the world. "
That kind of narrow minded, ethnocentric thinking is going to get you and the rest of ur country men killed.
The reason why bush's advisors have persuaded him to be patient in retaliation strikes is because : any stray bomb, or ground attack that kills innocent Muslim Afghans will lead to MASSES of moderate Muslims signing up at the local chapter of Al Queda for sucide missions against the US.
The idea that this retaliation against the Afghans is somehow "just" is laughable. America is not innocent. America has a long history of screwing over nations and peoples for its own self interest. Case and point Saudi Arabia: Their ruling monarchy is just as curropt and oppressive as the "evil" Taliban. But the US government loves it , and supports it?? Why should the US even be involved?? The oil. Its all about the oil, because the oil perserves "your way of life" (read: your standard of living, read: the States is willing to kill people to maintain their citizens current level of income and spin it like their "liberating the Kuwaiti people" )
Im not saying the terrorist attacks were justified. What I am saying however is that the US kills people directly or indirectly through economic sanctions and bullshi*t "humantarian wars" (Gulf war) so they can either ensure:
1) the flow of oil
2) and the growth of their economy
No one is innocent. America's hands are dirty, and most of its citizens think their sh*t doesnt stink. Your right that american arrogance could be its downfall.
How is America an imperialist nation??? which it is:
1) America pretty much determines loan stipulations for the World Bank and the IMF bank. Both of these international banks were put in place by developed nations for the purposes of loaning money to undeveloped nations to eradicate poverty. However, the US includes mandatory stipulations in loan contracts to foreign undeveloped countries that make :
1) the undeveloped country more impoverish then it was before
2) force the country to use US transnational corporations to build mega projects that fail 70% of the time : effectivily channeling the loan money right back into the hands of US big business and the US government through corporate tax.
3) force the developed nation to devalue its currency, adopt cash crop commiditys for export (coffee, sugar, ect) .......who cares??! big deal?!?! The IMF and WORLD Bank, all backed by the US, have encouraged argiculture commidty adoption in most developing countries.....what happens???? When you have 5 or 6 nations exporting similar , undifferentiated commiditys, commidity prices drop due to oversupply and the countrys that sell it, make less then they were before. ......and guess who profits?!??!? Developed countries.....we pay less for commidity prices, so big business that processes those raw materials and sells them make a bigger profit. Who owns the big business that process argicultural commiditys (guess)
White collar crime is just as brutal and unjust as is felonis crime. America thinks everything is "Cool" because its fucking people over indirectly.
If you refuse to educate yourself fully on US foreign economic and political policy, youll never understand why your country is not the bastion of "freedom and light" it makes itself out to be.
Sorry dudes, but no one is innocent. The Pro american sentiment they hammer into your heads growing up through school is made to make you react how you do. "Fuck them" , "Bomb the shit out of them" = "We are right because were Americans"
Its just not so.
Peace
"If we still had balls, we would have acted by now and not given a damn about the rest of the world. "
That kind of narrow minded, ethnocentric thinking is going to get you and the rest of ur country men killed.
The reason why bush's advisors have persuaded him to be patient in retaliation strikes is because : any stray bomb, or ground attack that kills innocent Muslim Afghans will lead to MASSES of moderate Muslims signing up at the local chapter of Al Queda for sucide missions against the US.
The idea that this retaliation against the Afghans is somehow "just" is laughable. America is not innocent. America has a long history of screwing over nations and peoples for its own self interest. Case and point Saudi Arabia: Their ruling monarchy is just as curropt and oppressive as the "evil" Taliban. But the US government loves it , and supports it?? Why should the US even be involved?? The oil. Its all about the oil, because the oil perserves "your way of life" (read: your standard of living, read: the States is willing to kill people to maintain their citizens current level of income and spin it like their "liberating the Kuwaiti people" )
Im not saying the terrorist attacks were justified. What I am saying however is that the US kills people directly or indirectly through economic sanctions and bullshi*t "humantarian wars" (Gulf war) so they can either ensure:
1) the flow of oil
2) and the growth of their economy
No one is innocent. America's hands are dirty, and most of its citizens think their sh*t doesnt stink. Your right that american arrogance could be its downfall.
How is America an imperialist nation??? which it is:
1) America pretty much determines loan stipulations for the World Bank and the IMF bank. Both of these international banks were put in place by developed nations for the purposes of loaning money to undeveloped nations to eradicate poverty. However, the US includes mandatory stipulations in loan contracts to foreign undeveloped countries that make :
1) the undeveloped country more impoverish then it was before
2) force the country to use US transnational corporations to build mega projects that fail 70% of the time : effectivily channeling the loan money right back into the hands of US big business and the US government through corporate tax.
3) force the developed nation to devalue its currency, adopt cash crop commiditys for export (coffee, sugar, ect) .......who cares??! big deal?!?! The IMF and WORLD Bank, all backed by the US, have encouraged argiculture commidty adoption in most developing countries.....what happens???? When you have 5 or 6 nations exporting similar , undifferentiated commiditys, commidity prices drop due to oversupply and the countrys that sell it, make less then they were before. ......and guess who profits?!??!? Developed countries.....we pay less for commidity prices, so big business that processes those raw materials and sells them make a bigger profit. Who owns the big business that process argicultural commiditys (guess)
White collar crime is just as brutal and unjust as is felonis crime. America thinks everything is "Cool" because its fucking people over indirectly.
If you refuse to educate yourself fully on US foreign economic and political policy, youll never understand why your country is not the bastion of "freedom and light" it makes itself out to be.
Sorry dudes, but no one is innocent. The Pro american sentiment they hammer into your heads growing up through school is made to make you react how you do. "Fuck them" , "Bomb the shit out of them" = "We are right because were Americans"
Its just not so.
Peace
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