The 1000mg Primo Story.... With Before Pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LVTitan]

Always remember bro, most of us like that FREAKY look ya know. I know some here dont but most of us would love to be huge like that. I love that look personally Cheers

funnny thing is, my ol' lady and her girlfriends already tell me i look freaky...
they always tell her i like some kind of steroid freak !! and that's at 145lbs
haha

 

[LVTitan]

umm, dude...you're really only 145lbs and that's after gear???

at least i look like im on gear.. how many people are juiced up and dont even look like they even work out ???

remember i've been training for about 7 years...and natty i never broke 120

 

[Indy]

at least i look like im on gear.. how many people are juiced up and dont even look like they even work out ???

remember i've been training for about 7 years...and natty i never broke 120

I always had that problem too, stayed around 145 for years, then finally hopped up into the 160's, and now after using gear, 190 is about what I stay at, and I'm only 5'7 so at 190 I fill out my shirts nicely. When I was only 145 I was mostly Johnson though

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

Lets see you post some before and after pics of your progress on this site where thousands of people can view it! It is getting old watching you make posts like this. Satch has the balls to do this, and you have to respect him for it. I think most of us would agree that he looks very good for the short time he has been bodybuilding. I am sure as he gains more experience in the gym his gains will get even better. It takes a long time to learn what works best for your body.

I think it's comical that he actually thought he had a chance Did he mention that's he's been on GH forever as well, NO! He eats like shit, he looks like shit.


Maldorf, Classic dick ridah

 

[khemix]

what if this newbie was 230 pounds at 7% bf.
would he still get bashed for 1g juice???

It depends on this newbies workout history. If it is 2.5 years then yes, he should get bashed for using 1gram of juice. Abuse.

 

[Little Boy]

what if this newbie was 230 pounds at 7% bf.
would he still get bashed for 1g juice???

If a newbie was 230 at 7 percent...then he's not a newbie.

By newbie, I meant a person who hadn't packed on much mass naturally from lifting. NOT A NEW MEMBER. Sorry for the confusion.

I'm not trying to be a hypocrite....because I'll juice before I get THAT close to my natural plateau....but I've put on OVER 50 pounds naturally, and repped 3 plates on bench and squat with no gear..and naturally I weighed 150 at 6' to begin with.

at least i look like im on gear.. how many people are juiced up and dont even look like they even work out ???

remember i've been training for about 7 years...and natty i never broke 120

Damn man...how many calories do you average a day?

 

[satchboogie]

It depends on this newbies workout history. If it is 2.5 years then yes, he should get bashed for using 1gram of juice. Abuse.

ok..
i disagree with your logic bro.
you mean to tell me that time in the gym is the only indicator of a newbie??
if your answer is yes, im dissapointed!!!

first off, everybody responds differently to gear!!!!

at 180 pounds, 500mg of test or deca SHOULD be enough but not necessarily!
if you're a hardgainer at 180 pounds, 500mg may not be enough.
for some its at the 2g dose that change appears! im not talkin about me but ive witnessed this MANY MANY times! dont assume that everybody gains on 500mg test!

second, 1000mg of primo DOES NOT equal 1000mg test or 1000mg deca!
its a weaker compound!!!
still VERY effective!
but the lowest dose primo a newbie should try is 500mg IMO!

500mg per week minimum!!
600-800mg ideal!!
1000mg for optimum results!!!

third, 2.5 years training is no longer newbie status and ill explain.

take 2 guys, for example, both training 2.5 years.

DUDE 1: trains 4 days a week, 1 hour sessions, gets most his knowledge from guys around the gyms, magazines, and his buddies. this is a typical guy training.. most DO NOT go on boards for knowledge so keep that in mind. he trains half ass and is sloppy with form....and not as motivated, he eats like shit and has no idea what glycemic index is or what whey isolates do!
but still pack on decent size because of genetics.

so at 230 pounds, the guy is a walkin beast, but trains improperly one day leading to injury.. his physique is strictly attributed to his genetics.. NOT his skills!!


DUDE 2: trains 5-6 days a week, 45 minute sessions. eats super clean, trains as clean as can be, and is on elite so has all the info he needs! this guy lives and breathes bodybuilding!!!!!!!!! his waking hours are spent thinkin about the next meal.. the next workout.... the next time he's online researching and researching.

but due to poor genetics, he's not a walking beast!
but knows more shit than me, you, and many others!
and lets throw in that he's been around sports/bodybuilding for 10 years... but only 2.5 years of that actually training on himself!

DUDE 3: looks like DUDE 1 but has knowledge/motivation to improve as DUDE 2. clearly.

so whose the newbie bro?

DUDE 1?
DUDE 2?
DUDE 3?
ALL 3????????????????


and last...

i know guys who have been training for 2 years (you can call them newbies if you like) thatll make most guys here look like toothpicks!! genetics or not, i sure as hell aint calling them newbies! they must be doin some'n right that perhaps YOU THAT HAVE BEEN TRAINING FOR 8 YEARS YOU EXPERIENCED PRO (LMFAO) will never know!

so think strong and smart before you post some bullshit calling people newbies!

 

[Outtlaw]

It depends on this newbies workout history. If it is 2.5 years then yes, he should get bashed for using 1gram of juice. Abuse.

In case you didnt know. 99% of the cycles I see on this board (even by 1st time users for that matter) would be considered abuse by any medical professional on this planet.

 

[gjohnson5]

If a newbie was 230 at 7 percent...then he's not a newbie.

By newbie, I meant a person who hadn't packed on much mass naturally from lifting. NOT A NEW MEMBER. Sorry for the confusion.

I'm not trying to be a hypocrite....because I'll juice before I get THAT close to my natural plateau....but I've put on OVER 50 pounds naturally, and repped 3 plates on bench and squat with no gear..and naturally I weighed 150 at 6' to begin with.



Damn man...how many calories do you average a day?

Little boy , a person can be untrained and be 230 at 7%

 

[gjohnson5]

ok..
i disagree with your logic bro.
you mean to tell me that time in the gym is the only indicator of a newbie??
if your answer is yes, im dissapointed!!!

first off, everybody responds differently to gear!!!!

at 180 pounds, 500mg of test or deca SHOULD be enough but not necessarily!
if you're a hardgainer at 180 pounds, 500mg may not be enough.
for some its at the 2g dose that change appears! im not talkin about me but ive witnessed this MANY MANY times! dont assume that everybody gains on 500mg test!

second, 1000mg of primo DOES NOT equal 1000mg test or 1000mg deca!
its a weaker compound!!!
still VERY effective!
but the lowest dose primo a newbie should try is 500mg IMO!

500mg per week minimum!!
600-800mg ideal!!
1000mg for optimum results!!!

third, 2.5 years training is no longer newbie status and ill explain.

take 2 guys, for example, both training 2.5 years.

DUDE 1: trains 4 days a week, 1 hour sessions, gets most his knowledge from guys around the gyms, magazines, and his buddies. this is a typical guy training.. most DO NOT go on boards for knowledge so keep that in mind. he trains half ass and is sloppy with form....and not as motivated, he eats like shit and has no idea what glycemic index is or what whey isolates do!
but still pack on decent size because of genetics.

so at 230 pounds, the guy is a walkin beast, but trains improperly one day leading to injury.. his physique is strictly attributed to his genetics.. NOT his skills!!


DUDE 2: trains 5-6 days a week, 45 minute sessions. eats super clean, trains as clean as can be, and is on elite so has all the info he needs! this guy lives and breathes bodybuilding!!!!!!!!! his waking hours are spent thinkin about the next meal.. the next workout.... the next time he's online researching and researching.

but due to poor genetics, he's not a walking beast!
but knows more shit than me, you, and many others!
and lets throw in that he's been around sports/bodybuilding for 10 years... but only 2.5 years of that actually training on himself!

DUDE 3: looks like DUDE 1 but has knowledge/motivation to improve as DUDE 2. clearly.

so whose the newbie bro?

DUDE 1?
DUDE 2?
DUDE 3?
ALL 3????????????????


and last...

i know guys who have been training for 2 years (you can call them newbies if you like) thatll make most guys here look like toothpicks!! genetics or not, i sure as hell aint calling them newbies! they must be doin some'n right that perhaps YOU THAT HAVE BEEN TRAINING FOR 8 YEARS YOU EXPERIENCED PRO (LMFAO) will never know!

so think strong and smart before you post some bullshit calling people newbies!

Lets stick with 1g primo as an example , because that is the cycle that YOU did, not anyone else or how anyone else responds to gear