Taking steroids before you reach your genetic limit

[SgtSlaughter]

Excellent thread Cy!

PM back at ya!

 

[LT3]

i agree, i started at 18 and i keep all my gains.

 

[Anthony Roberts]

Genetic Limit can only be 100% accurately measured in retrospect, no? So waiting for your "genetic limit" to be reached means you're constantly waiting for what? An arbitrary time length period of no gaining? I think that's kind of silly.

And yes, you can fuck more hot girls, if you look better-sooner. Thats a given...

 

[LT3]

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to anthony roberts again.

i agree. i think u just need a solid base. like i said i always found it odd that i never lost my gains, but it makes perfect sense. also i always recover fast.

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Good post bro i skimmed over it honestly.
Ill tell you i think its fair to say that people should wait till they know what they are doing and know what kind of gains they get naturally so that they appreciate the extra they get while on.

 

[mlong23]

Seemed like a good read, didn't read it all though.

It would be impossible to wait, because how could we really tell when our potential has been reached. By that time, age is upon us.

 

[karachi183]

Seemed like a good read, didn't read it all though.

It would be impossible to wait, because how could we really tell when our potential has been reached. By that time, age is upon us.

You know you've reached your limits when u stay either at the same weight or you don't move up in strentgh when you've been lifting hard and dieting etc..

 

[karachi183]

thanks for your input though karachi. I do encourage anyone who sees holes in my logic to speak up. I'll make any edits where necessary.

ur welcome k at ya for the post!

 

[dugie65]

I've been thinking about this for a while now. Why would someone want to wait until they reach their genetic limit to take steroids. Let's face it, we have a limited amount of time on this earth and the sooner we can get big and strong the more BB competitions, strongment competitions, powerlifting competitions, hot chicks to fuck, etc there will be.

Let's take a deeper look into what steroids do.
Steroids influence muscle growth. They are a catalyst for protein synthesis. If you train hard and eat just as hard, you will grow muscle at a much accelerated rate compared to not taking AAS. When a young man is 18 years old, he has a lot of extra testosterone running through his veins anyway so he is able to gain muscle at an accelerated rate compared to the rest of his life. Am I saying that he should take steroids to get bigger and stronger faster? Absolutely NOT.

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DISCUSS

Unfortunately, what you are doing is posting hypothetical situations, not testimony.

Tossing out my terminology, simply when hardwork alone compared to your normal lifestyle gives less gains than steroids + hardwork compared to hardwork alone.

I do not see how this point is relevant in any way whatsoever.

Of course steroids will give you an advantage in gaining muscle over ordinary workouts...



In my opinion, many people use steroids as a means to an end.
These 160 pound guys see these compounds as a miracle drug, something they will take and automatically gain 10-15lbs just by sticking themselves.

Are these undertrained athletes at their potential? Hell no. Do they take steroids anyway? Of course, i mean if they can gain 10-15 pounds and just eat a healthy diet and regimine while on, why not.


You might ask, "Well if my diet is on-track just while i'm on steroids then I will gain just as quickly and be just as safe, right?"

Wrong.

A healthy testosterone production at any age is usually attribulted to your diet and nutrition (Excluding those with deformalities of course.) That is why if you see a decrease in your gains due to a drop in testosterone, try a diet with increased food intake mainly consisting of high protein and non-processed foods. Maximize your natural test production through diet and workouts beforehand(hell, why not on your way to your natural potential?) and you will see a much healthier person afterwards.

Those unhealthy without the use of AAS will definately not get the full benifits from a spike in testosterone levels.

So ultimately the genetic potential does play a role in when you should take steroids. You cannot expect some who does not utilize what they have now to suddenly jump on the 'healthy train' and get the full benifits of a FOREIGN SUBSTANCE in the body.

I'm sorry if this seems like a flame, but most of the people I see/meet in this world on AAS are a discrace to the bodybuilding community. Remember, you fuck around with your hormones wrongly and you're stuck with it...

Good post BTW your terminoligy is definately new and interesting.

 

[karachi183]

Unfortunately, what you are doing is posting hypothetical situations, not testimony.




I do not see how this point is relevant in any way whatsoever.

Of course steroids will give you an advantage in gaining muscle over ordinary workouts...



In my opinion, many people use steroids as a means to an end.
These 160 pound guys see these compounds as a miracle drug, something they will take and automatically gain 10-15lbs just by sticking themselves.

Are these undertrained athletes at their potential? Hell no. Do they take steroids anyway? Of course, i mean if they can gain 10-15 pounds and just eat a healthy diet and regimine while on, why not.


You might ask, "Well if my diet is on-track just while i'm on steroids then I will gain just as quickly and be just as safe, right?"

Wrong.

A healthy testosterone production at any age is usually attribulted to your diet and nutrition (Excluding those with deformalities of course.) That is why if you see a decrease in your gains due to a drop in testosterone, try a diet with increased food intake mainly consisting of high protein and non-processed foods. Maximize your natural test production through diet and workouts beforehand(hell, why not on your way to your natural potential?) and you will see a much healthier person afterwards.

Those unhealthy without the use of AAS will definately not get the full benifits from a spike in testosterone levels.

So ultimately the genetic potential does play a role in when you should take steroids. You cannot expect some who does not utilize what they have now to suddenly jump on the 'healthy train' and get the full benifits of a FOREIGN SUBSTANCE in the body.

I'm sorry if this seems like a flame, but most of the people I see/meet in this world on AAS are a discrace to the bodybuilding community. Remember, you fuck around with your hormones wrongly and you're stuck with it...

Good post BTW your terminoligy is definately new and interesting.

K right at ya!