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great post. thanks for spending the time to write that all down and share that with us
Taking steroids before you reach your genetic limit
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ChickDiesel@MGN
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^Enough said right there! All the above is great detailed information for an elite athlete or someone more educated on where they want to go physically in this sport. But, for the beginner/novice...the last part is really the most important rule!
MattJS
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I began AAS use last year after just 2 years training, during those 2 years I went from 150lbs 8% (my avatar pic) to 170lbs 8%, I dieted extremely hard (virtually no supplements) each and every day, during those two years I missed a total of two workouts, in the beginning I got a group of friends involved we worked out together but within a few weeks they began missing workouts, constantly slacked on their diets, continued partying pretty hard and eventually gave up within six months... I battled on alone and right now I'm on my second cycle, I'm 196lbs @15%... I feel that starting cycling 'early' has helped to make up for starting weights later in life than ideal (26) and I feel that my goal of 200lbs 8% would be very hard for me to attain naturally from that starting point, while I understand other peoples frustrations with people starting 'early' (I have friends who use AAS and do not even train or diet at all) I think the formula makes sense and a persons dedication/commitment should def be considered, if a person is an adult, has proved themselves for a couple of years natty and desires a more extreme result than can be attained through continuing that way then provided they do adequate research and are smart about it why not....
What results are your friends getting that use roids without training or diet?
I don't think anyone needs to wait until they reach their genetic potential before starting AAS, but I do think there are conditions that should grade before you start...
1) Age....I know its accepted on this forum to not start until at least 21, but I think that is still way too early. I think people should wait until at least their later 20s if not early 30s before starting. I didn't start until 35, and I'm glad I waited.
2) body composition: You need to have a great base at least before you start. That means you have built a solid foundation of muscle that is respectable, and also have your bodyfat at a reasonable level in the lower to mid teens.
3) Diet: Your diet needs to be in check. You need to be able to eat for the gains that you seek. If you can't do that, then cycling is not for you.
3) Training: Your training needs to compliment your goals before starting AAS. You need to lift big to get big...etc..and know how to properly do this to build muscle and allow the proper time to recover.
4) cycle knowledge: You need to know enough to prepare your self for everything on cycle that can hapien including dosing, side effects, supports, PCT, and health.
5) HAVE EVERYTHING ON HAND BEFORE STARTING!!! This means all ancillaries, supports, AIs, PCT...etc
6) No health issues: If you are injured or have any health condition that could be effected by cycling DONT START!!
1) Age....I know its accepted on this forum to not start until at least 21, but I think that is still way too early. I think people should wait until at least their later 20s if not early 30s before starting. I didn't start until 35, and I'm glad I waited.
2) body composition: You need to have a great base at least before you start. That means you have built a solid foundation of muscle that is respectable, and also have your bodyfat at a reasonable level in the lower to mid teens.
3) Diet: Your diet needs to be in check. You need to be able to eat for the gains that you seek. If you can't do that, then cycling is not for you.
3) Training: Your training needs to compliment your goals before starting AAS. You need to lift big to get big...etc..and know how to properly do this to build muscle and allow the proper time to recover.
4) cycle knowledge: You need to know enough to prepare your self for everything on cycle that can hapien including dosing, side effects, supports, PCT, and health.
5) HAVE EVERYTHING ON HAND BEFORE STARTING!!! This means all ancillaries, supports, AIs, PCT...etc
6) No health issues: If you are injured or have any health condition that could be effected by cycling DONT START!!
Really good advice, especially an easily overlooked one like having everything on hand before starting. I remember starting an early cycle with not enough gear because I had some coming...never showed up, cycle interrupted and a waste of time and money.
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