Not for nothing but I have been running an anavar only cycle to see what the results would be. My plan was to use 35 mgs of SPA ever day and 10 mgs of TT ed. Also, I am using armidex .5mgs eod to cut back on some estrogenic fat and water retention. So far week 5 results are up 5 pounds and strenth is ok. Not really getting me a ripped look, but more a hard look. For the price of this shit, it should really work better. The only reason why it may be good b/c lack of sides and clean on the body. But I think it is overrated. I will let you know the end results.