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Prop 19 in Cali is failing :(

Man, I was so excited that weed would be legalized... ahh crap... I guess not, but this was just the first battle, i'm 90% sure in 2 years we're getting it passed and if not in 4 years 100%...


any thoughts?

What's your opinion on legalization of Marijuana?
 
i don't think weed should be legalized until there's a way to test if someone is high. i think blazing while performing certain jobs puts other people at risk, so until there is a way to distinguish between whether someone smoked this morning or 2 days ago, it should just be banned all together.

right now the penalty for being caught with any amount of pot that would be reasonable for personal use is like a 50 dollar ticket, which is so lenient i don't think it's worth tripping about. Also it's so easy to get a cannabis card that anyone who really wants to smoke can do it anyway.

lastly, i think NO is the correct vote for all propositions because the majority of citizens are too ignorant to understand the issues that they are voting on. let the politicians handle that
 
Young people got owned by older peeps! The weed movement just got set back around 10-20 years until they can outvote older folks. Thank god I don't have to hear that stupid pro weed crap everywhere, maybe this'll shut them up.

Doubt it - they'll just go overturn the prop like those geighs did in the last election. Ignoring voters, it's all the rage!

c
 
My girl is from Cali and as a result, I've met a bunch of younger peeps that grew up there and still live there. And it's astonished me how many of them actually make their living off weed. Not like us East Coast regular street dealers, I'm talking harvesting and shit. Madness I tell you. They were all getting pumped for this vote. Half of em probably got too zooted and forgot to vote.
 
Most dealers voted against it. Too much money to be made when its illegal.
 
i don't think weed should be legalized until there's a way to test if someone is high. i think blazing while performing certain jobs puts other people at risk, so until there is a way to distinguish between whether someone smoked this morning or 2 days ago, it should just be banned all together.

Excellent point, Nimbo.

Doing anything that puts others at risk because of altered judgment and/or slowed reaction times is a criminal act. First there's got to be a test with acceptable reliability and validity values, and then there needs to be defined on that test a reasonable threshold of criminal impairment for LE to use.
 
The larger issue IMO it that peeps who only blaze, and have never been even occasional users of shit like H, meth, X, etc, show little or none of the well known addict characteristics. They may not have their shit together, and may be underachieving slackers, but it aint b/c of weed.

I really wish these people didn't get court ordered into our NA group. Busted on weed possession, holds down a full time job, pays their mortgage, supports 2 children, active in their community softball team, attends church every Sunday, has plenty of savings, takes vacations with the family 2x a year, etc, etc. Yeah...they belong in our group. :rolleyes:

Anyone fully invested in the world and showing no impairment of their achievement of any of their life goals because of their use of weed, does not belong in a group of people who's lives have disintegrated b/c of drugs. That actually disrupts the group process and wastes everyone's time. Even when they don't share you can just tell who's in denial and who really doesn't belong. It sucks for everyone in the room.
 
As a business person who makes their living off of the distribution of weed (my husband and I own and operate a dispensary) I am amazed at how un-educated people are about marijuana. I see MANY college educated professional patients, most of them middle aged, on a daily basis who not only maintain their jobs and support a family but are also upstanding citizens of the community. Their is such a misconception of this movement and yes it it true that many of the "dealers" would vote against making marijuana legal. If legalized they would be forced to go legit and do it legally (by the states standards) or they would be put out of business and have to get a "regular" job. Let me ask you this, if you all are so worried about people getting high on the job and putting people at risk then why not demand testing for pharmaceutical drugs as well like oxycotin, methadone, percocet, benzo's just to name a few. To assume all who smoke, or ingest marijuana are unmotivated losers is ridiculous. I have seen more destruction from alcohol and prescribed drugs then I have ever seen from pot. I am very proud of what I do and very proud of my husband for his hard work in this industry. Everyday I see sick people that thank me and express their relief to be able to come into our center to get medicine and NOT have to buy it out of an asshole's backpack! How would you all preferred it be distributed. Centers, dealers, or in pill form from pharmaceutical companies (because the person working next to you could have gotten it that way too)?
 
Man, I was so excited that weed would be legalized... ahh crap... I guess not, but this was just the first battle, i'm 90% sure in 2 years we're getting it passed and if not in 4 years 100%...


any thoughts?

What's your opinion on legalization of Marijuana?

"ahh crap"... That pretty much sums up the whole CA results for me. More of Boxer and her precious little damn guppies in the Sacramento River = no water for the farmers in SoCal, and Gov. Brown (AGAIN!!!!!!), = great news for welfare recipients and illegal immigrants, and bad news for anyone with a job, or worse yet, anyone who runs a business. Prop 19 would have solved so many problems with gang turf, and would have freed up thousands of jail cells and allowed the police to go after rapists and molesters in stead of retired hippies smoking a joint. I've never smoked it myself, but I have nothing aganst it, and it smells better than tobacco any day.

Charles
 
Most dealers voted against it. Too much money to be made when its illegal.

DING DInG DING

alot of Mexicans in my area were unusually active on this, and I mean like all sects of them from Americanized to fresh from the mother land lol
 
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