prolactin issues with GHRH and GHRP and IPAM

[pdaddyII]

would you recommend people use clomid instead of nolva?

i am going to be using aromisin and nolva as you suggested in one of your PCT protocols - cant remember where i found it though

i will also be mega dosing b6 since word on the streets are this can help limit prolactin

Get some b6 and vitex. I was having PR issues on a current tren cycle and these have since cleared up the problem. Wouldn't hurt to have some caber on hand as a backup.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Get some b6 and vitex. I was having PR issues on a current tren cycle and these have since cleared up the problem. Wouldn't hurt to have some caber on hand as a backup.

Vitex lowers prolactin and testosterone. I woudn't recommend it.

 

[pdaddyII]

You must be mistaken. I've never recommended nolva for PCT, only for existing gyno. I think it's a horrible drug and would avoid it at all cost.

Clomid and nolva are almost identical. I may actually hate Clomid more.

My recommendation for PCT is HMG, UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE, and a small amount of an anti aromatase, followed by BRIDGE.

Too much B6 can cause insomnia. Needto and I have an anti-prolactin supplement coming out, but it's gotten held up. In the meantime you can try some cabasser. It isn't great, but it's the only thing yet available to treat excess prolactin.

Why do you say caber isn't that great? I have had awesome success with it as have most every other reported user. Doesn't it drop PR levels by as much as >95%?? And what about those side effects: increased Sex Drive, Stronger Erections, More Powerful Orgasms, Taking Less Time to Achieve A Full Erection after Ejactulation. And I can personally vouch for each one of these.

 

[Sub-Zero]

Why do you say caber isn't that great? I have had awesome success with it as have most every other reported user. Doesn't it drop PR levels by as much as >95%?? And what about those side effects: increased Sex Drive, Stronger Erections, More Powerful Orgasms, Taking Less Time to Achieve A Full Erection after Ejactulation. And I can personally vouch for each one of these.

do you run caber with all of your tren cycles? what about ralox? both? aromisin +caber?

what would be your best homeostasis stack for a tren cycle

 

[pdaddyII]

Vitex lowers prolactin and testosterone. I woudn't recommend it.

Well I don't take it unless there is supplemental testosterone on board anywho soooo win-win

 

[pdaddyII]

do you run caber with all of your tren cycles? what about ralox? both? aromisin +caber?

what would be your best homeostasis stack for a tren cycle[/

Can't go wrong with a simple test/tren cycle. Always be sure the test is Dodd higher then the tren though. I will run aromasin throughout to keep bloat down but just at a small maintenance dose and run it through pct as well. I've been running hcg throughout as well to prevent any gonadal atrophy and help my natural test kick in quicker post cycle. I've always believed that a little PR isn't going to hurt you, you'll have some puffy nips but they will go away. IF you have the estrogen in complete check. PR needs estrogen in Order to produce 'gyno'. This is all from mountains of research I've done over the last couple of years and so far these rules have applied to me. So to answer your question I would run this:

Dbol@40 for 4 wks
Test@500 for 12wks
Tren A@250 for 8wks
[email protected] twice/wk
Hcg@250iu twice/wk

Aromasin/nolva for PCT

Have b6 and vitex in case you see any PR issues and caber just in case. Fuck I even take caber when not on tren or deca because I love the shit so much so I would personally run it regardless. If you see puffy nips I would up the aromasin as well just to be safe the estrogen won't help that PR form any hard lumps. I have also read that nolva is the preferred pct drug and that you should never run it with PR issues on cycle because it will only instigate the issue. I really hope nobody asks for references because I would have to do some digging but I know I wouldn't have incorporated it into my cycles if I didn't cross check the shit out of all of this info. Hope this helps bro

 

[Sub-Zero]

do you run caber with all of your tren cycles? what about ralox? both? aromisin +caber?

what would be your best homeostasis stack for a tren cycle[/

Can't go wrong with a simple test/tren cycle. Always be sure the test is Dodd higher then the tren though. I will run aromasin throughout to keep bloat down but just at a small maintenance dose and run it through pct as well. I've been running hcg throughout as well to prevent any gonadal atrophy and help my natural test kick in quicker post cycle. I've always believed that a little PR isn't going to hurt you, you'll have some puffy nips but they will go away. IF you have the estrogen in complete check. PR needs estrogen in Order to produce 'gyno'. This is all from mountains of research I've done over the last couple of years and so far these rules have applied to me. So to answer your question I would run this:

Dbol@40 for 4 wks
Test@500 for 12wks
Tren A@250 for 8wks
[email protected] twice/wk
Hcg@250iu twice/wk

Aromasin/nolva for PCT

Have b6 and vitex in case you see any PR issues and caber just in case. Fuck I even take caber when not on tren or deca because I love the shit so much so I would personally run it regardless. If you see puffy nips I would up the aromasin as well just to be safe the estrogen won't help that PR form any hard lumps. I have also read that nolva is the preferred pct drug and that you should never run it with PR issues on cycle because it will only instigate the issue. I really hope nobody asks for references because I would have to do some digging but I know I wouldn't have incorporated it into my cycles if I didn't cross check the shit out of all of this info. Hope this helps bro

great post bro thanks i will def run that cycle if i am ever ready to leap into the tren world

in PCT do you keep the aromisin at 12.5 2x per week or up it? how much caber do you run in general?

thanks, im saving this in my steroid word document

PS: you should look into raloxafine (not sure if i spelled that right) for your post tren SERM, as opposed to nolva i hear people like it because it doesnt cause an adverse reaction if your prolactin is high when you come off

 

[pdaddyII]

I run the aromasin at 25mg/day throughout pct and the caber at a maintenance dose of .5mg twice/week and at .5mg eod if having any PR signs/symptoms.

To be honest I have never even heard of raloxafine but will definitely be looking into it. I'll let you know what I find bro thanks

 

[Sub-Zero]

I run the aromasin at 25mg/day throughout pct and the caber at a maintenance dose of .5mg twice/week and at .5mg eod if having any PR signs/symptoms.

To be honest I have never even heard of raloxafine but will definitely be looking into it. I'll let you know what I find bro thanks

do you taper the aromisin, or just drop it after your last dose of nolva? i was consdering tapering it down some as i taper the nolva down


Raloxifene - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

many people swear its more effective than nolva, and its less toxic

supposedly it also doesnt impact prolactin/progsterone like nolva does.

 

[pdaddyII]

Sorry bro, I didn't see this. I just drop the aromasin when the nolva is done but I don't see how a tapered dose would hurt you.

A lot of the information I'm getting on that drug is that it's recommended to be taken for gyno when present; not for gyno prevention. It actually seems to be a quite effective med for an alternative to surgery.