Primo Is Overated!!

[halfaclue]

How do you guys who work full time find enough time to make all these meals!???!!!

I portion all my food on the weekends for the upcoming week. just use those disposable zip lock containers and bring a few to work each day and then friday throw them all in the dishwasher and start over again.

 

[satchboogie]

You might say you're not bashing him, but it's clear you are. You're disappointed, I think not. What satch did in 16 weeks is a good achievement. Again, read my 2nd post, 1000mgs of primo would barely = 300mgs+ of test, so there is not much comparison - you're thowing apples and oranges out there and hoping they are the same, they are not.

You were waiting for pics, now you saw them. All I see now is you bitching and moaning about your disappointment with the way satch looked; jesus bro, get a life. It's amazing that people would waste their time being disappointed at someone's good achievement.

Also, I don't see how you're judging that he didn't need 16 weeks of primo. Do you really belive you can guess the time someone needs to make improvements? (someone you have no clue about) that's fairly hard even for a great buff like Dan Duchaine. When using primo, gains are VERY mild and fat-loss comes slowly if you're on balanced diet. I think looking at the whole picture: AS/diet/training/genetics, you will find that it's a LOT harder for some to gain/get results then for others. That's a staple standard in the industry.

No matter how you flip-flop here, you're bashing satch, and you wont drop the topic, which makes you seem very immature.

As for me, I get 100s of emails/PMs per day (mix and match), I don't have time to look at every post. Sure, maybe your pics are out there, who knows. Right now, I don't care, since all I see in your posts are negativity and hate. EF is a home for a lot of people that support and provide positive advice; it's not for negative and pessimistic agendas. Jealousy and hate is the downfall of mankind.

Mr.X

MR.X..

thanks for taking your valuable time to comment on this thread.
you've shown much expertise and are a true guru!

youve stressed a point several times that most just DONT seem to understand..

1000mg primo is NOT 1000mg test!!!!

as soon as they hear 1000mg they flip out like its some ridiculous dose!
even for test i dont think its an obscene amount!!

and for primo???????

you know..
somebody once told me that when youre on top of the tree, theyll throw rocks at you... he was right.

 

[satchboogie]

I dont usually chime in on these "negative" type threads, especially on all the negative comments from this user, however I know Satch, followed the last 16 weeks of his training etc.. and can verify what he did. I saw regular pics that no one else has seen on his progress throughout, that's how I know he never makes his bed, doesn't like to clean his bathroom, has a kitchen FULL of health food, and has never lied to me. You dont know me and dont have to take my word either, but why else would I waste me time typing this, Satch gained some serious pounds while on primo the last 4 months, and made alot of progress, there is no doubt about that...if people dont have the money for primo then dont buy it, let it die already, I have the money, I use it, I like it......Nice to have a cycle that is side free when compared to harsher chemicals.

I have been lifting for 21 years now, maybe I'll do some before and after shots, 16 weeks of 1 gram of primo and show people that you dont always have to be negative on everyone ...

thanks for taking the time to post this my man...

the haters will always be there you know?
its cool though i dont take it to heart.

95% look like shit but have a BIG mouth behind a screen!

and all of them are negative punk assholes who dont know what a support board is all about!

anyhow, we have a fine group of friends here to help each other grow and become more educated.

thanks again bro.

 

[Outtlaw]

Well maybeif you spent more time clicking on posts then reasearching dietary info to fuel your "Fight on Fruit" you would have seen the 150+ pics ive thown up in the last 6 weeks alone. I'm 2 weeks out and would be glad to post up next to satch and carth as I have stated several times. I am not trying to bash him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was very disapointed is all. I really thought he was going to look sick as hell ripped. 16 weeks!!!!!! 16 weeks!!!!!!! Come on now X being in the fitness industry as long as you have you know the transformation that can occur in that time. Im just saying I was dissapointed is all. Hell for like a week I was waiting for the real pics to come out....but none ever did. Yea he gained some weight and lost some fat. Wow!!!! Didnt need 16 weeks of Primo for that is all im saying here. By the was I lostlike 30 natty before starting my cuting cycle, someone mentioned that...?

I dont know what you were expecting from these guys. These guys are not fitness professionals. They're not IFBB pros. They dont do this for a living. They're just 2 guys having a friendly competition. And here you come expecting somebody to show up looking like Dexter Jackson. I dont get it.

 

[satchboogie]

i love the platinum bombs!

 

[borg4902]

I'm just sayin if you are gonna start a post about how good you look then youd better back it up. Satch im sorry I was disapointed, as much shit as you were talking that whole time I expected to see Cutler unvailed on the 17th. I thought for sure youd be at like 4%. My bad dude. OK. Look at Kingwhinny, now he deserved to start his own thread on achivement. Satch good job bro! Not bashing but it just seemed to me like you have been bragging, and pushing primo like its going out of style for about two weeks now, and its just getting old is all.Yes you improved you physice we can all see and appritiate that. Im sure it wasnt easy and im not trying to take anything away from you. But it just seemes like your doing a lot of strutting, when there are several true freaks on this board who just keep quite and dont feel like they have to prove anything to anyone. I am not trying to offend anyone. Im 2 weeks out im dead tired and very cranky, its 103 degree's here and I have to wear a sweatsuit 24/7. Im sorry if I let it come out in my posts at times. Mr. X ive looked up to you since day one. You and you alone where the one who started me on my clean diet ways way back when I joined this board.

 

[Joe Stenson]

If anything I'd compare 1000mgs of primo to 300-350mgs of Test (maybe 400 max)

If this is true (and I'll assume it is because I know next to nothing about primo and you seem to know all about it), it's no wonder people say primo is overrated. I didn't think the difference was "that" night and day. If that's the case, I don't really see why people bother with primo. Surely sides will be very minimal on a dose of test that low for most people. And any gyno or bloating issues from test should EASILY be controlled at that dose.

 

[khemix]

MR.X..
you know..
somebody once told me that when youre on top of the tree, theyll throw rocks at you... he was right.

You're not at the top. Carth is.

And as far as the original subject goes, I'm not here to bash anyone, but this is all another example of people not only using drugs when they shouldnt be, but using amounts that are way beyond necessary. I have the worst genetics in the world for gaining mass, but over the years I put in my time, not just training, but researching the hell out of every training and diet approach I could find. And as result, I would put my natural pics up against at least 80-90% of the people on this board who admit to juicing. And my pics after just one cycle of 500mg of test, I would put up against minimum of 90% of the people on here. And the sad thing is I wasnt huge, my physique wasnt impressive, at least not to me, but I actually worked for what I attained, before jumping on juice

Damn straight. Everyone needs to read the bold lettering above, needsize hit it on the head.

 

[khemix]

I'm just sayin if you are gonna start a post about how good you look then youd better back it up. Satch im sorry I was disapointed, as much shit as you were talking that whole time I expected to see Cutler unvailed on the 17th. I thought for sure youd be at like 4%. My bad dude. OK. Look at Kingwhinny, now he deserved to start his own thread on achivement. Satch good job bro! Not bashing but it just seemed to me like you have been bragging, and pushing primo like its going out of style for about two weeks now, and its just getting old is all.Yes you improved you physice we can all see and appritiate that. Im sure it wasnt easy and im not trying to take anything away from you. But it just seemes like your doing a lot of strutting, when there are several true freaks on this board who just keep quite and dont feel like they have to prove anything to anyone. I am not trying to offend anyone. Im 2 weeks out im dead tired and very cranky, its 103 degree's here and I have to wear a sweatsuit 24/7. Im sorry if I let it come out in my posts at times. Mr. X ive looked up to you since day one. You and you alone where the one who started me on my clean diet ways way back when I joined this board.

This is a good post. I figured I'd reply to it so everyone could see it without the black background. I feel the same way bro.

 

[khemix]

If this is true (and I'll assume it is because I know next to nothing about primo and you seem to know all about it), it's no wonder people say primo is overrated. I didn't think the difference was "that" night and day. If that's the case, I don't really see why people bother with primo. Surely sides will be very minimal on a dose of test that low for most people. And any gyno or bloating issues from test should EASILY be controlled at that dose.

Good post too